Black Parenting : Whipping And Spanking Our Children!

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    I usually don't watch Doctor Phil but in the preview on the show that would be coming on today, it showed a black woman standing next to Doctor Phil and Doctor Phil said something like "A woman who thinks it's okay to spank other peoples children" So I wanted to see how they were going to ridicule the black woman.

    I will paraphrase what the people were saying...

    The black woman doesn't have any children but she takes good care of her nephew and spends a lot of time with him. Doctor Phil asked the black woman was she spanked as a child and the woman's response was, yes she was. Doctor Phil asked her how did that affect her and the lady's response was... I'm 25, I don't have any children, I finished college, I have a good job, I am a respectable citizen and I have a good and happy life.


    Any way, some white specialist I suppose, was on the stage and she told the black woman that she was a horrible person and that she should never put her hands on someone else's child. That black woman was like, he's not someone elses child, he is my nephew and the white woman was like, I don't care, that doesn't make him your child, how dare you put your hands on someone elses child, how dare you hit any child... and she went on to try and demonize the black woman but suprisingly, it didn't work. The black woman's response was, I can tell you this, when my nephew becomes an adult, he won't be trying to rob anyone and he won't be ending up in Jail. The audience clapped their hands and no one clapped for the white woman at all, the audience was quiet when she spoke but when the black woman spoke the audience understood. The white woman went on to say, You are putting fear into him, you are making him afraid of you, how can you love the child and make the child fear you at the same time, what about when he gets old enough and big enough to start hitting you back what you gonna do then. I was like, she is really trying to get the audience to be on her side, but it simply was not working. The black womans response was, I bet you when he becomes a grown man, he is going to love me even more, he is going to respect me and he is not going to be a young man that hangs out in the streets... the audience clapped.


    Now, the whole entire time that I was watching this show, I am thinking about how we black people learned how to whip our children from white people, and now white people want to teach us that it is wrong. Actually, I shouldn't say that we learned to whip our children from white people but I will say that we aquired whipping or spanking as a way of discipline from white people. You see, back in the days because it is a bit different these days, remember my grandmother use to whip me with a stick and I remember when my other grandmother used to make us go and get a fresh long tree that was fat at the base but got slim towards the end, she would have us take the leaves off the switch then she would whip us. I know that way of spanking us or disciplining us came from white people during slavery. Here is the difference though, when my grandma would whip us, it was because we did something she told us not to do and we were big enough to understand that we were doing something that could get us hurt sometimes even killed. I remember me and my cousins went missing for a long time, my aunty, who is my grandmas daughter, she was looking for us and could not find us. Well, we got the twisted idea to go run around in the graveyard across the street from my aunts apartment building, we played over in that place like it was a playground. When we got tired of playing, we hopped back over the fence and was headed to my aunts house, when we got there, my aunt was getting into her car to go and look for us, and she saw us hopping the fence, she asked us what were we doing coming out of the graveyard at night, we began to lie, she didn't even bother with asking us no more questions, she just took us into the house and got to whipping our butts with a leather belt. I tell you, after that day, we never went into the graveyard to play again and we never stayed out late when we were supposed to be in the house.


    My point is, when black people spank or whip their children out of discipline not anger, they are doing that because they don't want their children to get hurt. Back in slavery days, mama preferred to whip her child to teach him a lesson before the white man got a hole of him and did something worse, like kill 'im or her. That same reason is why some of us do it today, we know the difference between when our children made an honest mistake and when they are being just plain old risky and defiant, we don't want the cops getting a hole of our children so they can do to our children what childrens rights will send parents to jail for doing. Isn't that crazy, a cop can beat your child and nothing gets done about it. Then if the cop beats your black child, the cop as well as the white institutions, the blame you for why the kid is what he has become and they blame the father who for the most part is not in the home. Father is not in the home, mother is a single parent and she can't hit her child but she can call the police on her child and let the cops discipline him... Wow! What is that telling the child who takes advantage of the fact that his or hers single mother works late ours to take care of them?


    I never had to spank my child but if I would have had a reason to, I would have.


    Whats interesting about it is, look at white people, a people who don't believe in spankings, they believe in letting their children be equal to them. Look at how they act as adults, stealing land, killing innocent people, manipulating the planet and destroying it. They are the ones who act like spoiled and un disciplined children because they don't know what it is like to respect people. Even when their parents can't take care of themselves, most white people throw their parents away, put them away in homes where they hardly ever visit them.



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    Some parents, Black and White, confuse the difference between "abuse" and "discipline."

    When parents hit their children in anger, that's not "discipline."
    When parents hit their children to release stress from their own lives, that's not "discipline."

    Beating a child for every infraction, small or large, is not "discipline."

    Many Black adults today, can look back on their own childhoods and honestly say that, yes, sometimes, they were "abused" even though they may harbor no ill feelings towards their mothers or fathers for those instances.

    No parent is perfect.

    Many parents who use corporal punishment do so in "discipline."

    And many parents beat the h3ll outta their children for everything they do wrong because that's the only deterrent they know and it's what was done to them.

    However, many of us who were raised with corporal punishment may look back on some of our own "whuppins" (and of friends & family) with humor now; but if we're honest with ourselves, we would also admit that some of those "whuppins" were not just "discipline." ----It was "abuse."

    Again, no parent is perfect.

    But, people also sometimes do the "wrong things for the right reasons."
     
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    Awhile back my daughter and I were in the grocery store. My daughter was asking if she could have something and I told her no. So she started to throw a fit in the store and was rolling around on the ground yelling and what-not, so I spanked her on her butt a couple of times and told her to stop. Well another customer who happened to be an older black man, told me to not hit my child and was like I was out of line.

    I said this is "MY child. And MY child is acting out of line. So I'm going to give her what she has coming"

    What was I supposed to do? Tell her no, "stop it, you're being bad, no cookie for you."???

    I was not beating her and she is in no way traumatized. To this day I rarely have to spank her because she behaves well and she knows what I expect of her and what the consequences will be if she does disobey.
     
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    1. Spare the rod, spoil the child is mentioned in the bible over twenty times :whip:

    2. GOD came to the mother land 1st. We didnt learn spanking from the white man :court:

    3. They could barely keep the wolves and bears out of their caves when we had civilizations and knew GOD

    4. The love of discipline has been passed down from generation to generation :bully:

    5. Those that practice it, raise good strong children


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    good for you,what's wrong today is we watch too much tv talk shows[dr phil,oprah]and the rest of these so called experts???[give me a break]you want experts go talk to grandma and those good aunties who raised us,let me tell you something black people i was raised by mama, grandma and those aunties and i didn't get many spankings[because i wasn't fool enough to keep testing them on it]but when i got one it was deserved[children aren't stupid]and i thank them for every bit of disipline i recieved and as a parent i have given a spanking or two although i hated to do it kids will test you and sometimes talking won't cut it..misinterpret you were absolutly right and i applaud
    your handling of the situation.
     
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    I was with my son who was 8 at the time when a White child did that with his mother. The mother was acting helpless and embarrassed as the child just continued to fall out in the floor and scream bloody murder. My son looked at me with a smirk on his face and said "If we tried that, we would get the beat down". I laughed and said "I'm glad you know it" I gave him a hug and we left.
     
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    I'm not a bible thumper, but if you say so.:)


    Anyhoot, I am talking about the reasons why we spank or hit our children, we learned that from white people or acquired that from white people. After slavery, most of the beatings our children got was done out of fear that if we didn't put fear into them, white people would sure enough kill them. If we did not beat them for their negative behavior (playing around with white folks) for not realizing that we lived in a (white world which hated black skin) white folks would be more than happy to take matters to the extreme to make sure that we understood this. If Emmett Till had lived through the beating he had incurred from white folks for whistling at a white girl, he probably would not have had enough time to recuperate, before he had gotten another beating for even thinking to do such a thing during the time that he had done it. A lot of us spank or whip our children also because we saw how white kids disrespected their parents and how our children saw this as well. Before our children even began to get the idea that disrespecting ones parents was perfectly normal, we had to show them that in no way was that the case, you will respect your elders. As a result, because white people want for everyone to follow in their footsteps like lost sheep, a law was set which stated that parents can no longer spank, whip or use corporal punishment on their children as a way to discipline. Even if the child seemed to be okay, teachers would look for so called signs of abuse in order so that they could remove the black child from it's black home.


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