Black Spirituality Religion : Where Does The Bible Fit In All This Scientific Data , , Which Is Dis-Proing Its

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    Where Does The Bible Fit In All This Scientific Data , , Which Is Dis-Proing Its ?Where does the bible fit in all this scientific data, Which is Dis-Proving It's Validity ? If you look at the construction of the bible . You can see that it was written by four different authors . You have the '' J '' text '' which is the '' Jehovah Torah where the name '' Jehovah '' is always mentioned . You have the '' P '' text ''which is the '' Priest '' Torah with opinions in support of Abiathar and Nathan , The two Priest . You have the '' E '' text '' which is the Eloheem Torah and you have the '' D '' text ''
    which is the Deuteronomy . Moses '' Version of theTorah . All these are different stories of the same events in the bible .

    Yet written in different ways. Sometimes different languages . Which was intertwined and woven in each other , Placed above each other , and made to appear Authentic as if it is The Holy Halios Book Papyrus Of God . This Book continually tell you that these different versions andtext , Which if you begin to read with an open eye or TheEye Of Ra .

    You will see that they were taken from the Babylonian Stories . The Curse Seed Of The Canaanites Stories , and the Egiptian stories . Showing you that these were the major influence of the Israelites . Which was organized by the 46 Nicean Council , And formed their Holy Book which is called today the bible . Whether it be The Torah , The Gospels , The Evangel -- Revelation , The New Testament , And The Old Testament .

    So when you're trying to explain that there is no Validity in The Bible , You have to do your ReSearch and cross examine each story in the bible , And cross examine each name in the bible . For some names were mentioned Twice , Or they were mentioned out of place , or the stories contradict each other , As in the story of Mizraim and the migration of the sons of Noah because they would not be able to explain certain things , They purposely leave out the fact that the family of Noah were in Aftica first .

    Then landed in the Mountains of Ararat , Not one Mountain , But Mountains as the Bible states Genesis 8;4 . Then migrated back to Egipt again . With the exception of one son named Japheth . Who lived in the Tents of Shem Genesis 9;27 , Which is why you find Nimrod in Genesis 10;8 . As being a mighty hunter . A Ghibbore '' Mighty One ''. Building Towers Such As The Tower Of Babel .

    When in itself is '' Bab '' Door '' And El '' The Doorway To El '' . To reach heaven . However . The God , Be He Yahweh Or Adonai of the Hebrew , Didn't Approve of this so he came down and confounded their tongue , In that part of The Planet Earth of Babylon , Not The Whole Earth .

    So these people were all one big family who separated after the flood of the noah story . and if you look in Psalms 78;51 You can see that they place Egipt , which is Mizraim The Son Of Ham And Ham As Being The Same , Egiptians Psalms 78; 51 , Again , this quote makes Mizraim and Ham Both Egiptians along with Psalms 105; 23 . Also read Jeremaih 46;9 .

    Mentions Libya , originally called Tehnu as Phut , Who is the son of Ham Genesis 10;6 along side of Ethiopia as Cush . Then the Egiptian term Kemite or Khemet predates the bible or hebraic name Ham as mentioned above thus the original Hamites , Cu****es , and Mizraimites had to have been according to their own Bible . In North East Africa's Libya Extending from what is called Egipt today , down past Sudan , called Ham Genesis 10;6 , And on into Ethiopia called Cush Genesis 2;13 in the bible .

    Aren't These The Acestors Of Abraham ?
    Being these are The Ancestors of The Patriarch of Montheism , Namely A Chaldean Born Syrian Name Abram ( Genesis 11;27 ) . Who became Abraham ( 2078-1903 B.C.E. ) . ( Genesis 17;5 ) . The founder of what became known as the Hebrew Religion who birthed Isaac ( Genesis 17;19 . Who birthed Jacob ( Genesis 25;26 ) . Who became Israel and fathered Judah ( Genesis29;35 ) . We get the Hebrew Religion . The Israelite AndThe Judaic Which broke off in time to become known as Nazarites , Meccabeans , Essenes , Who became Christian And Later Muslims

    Hummmm Wouldn't That Make The Origin Of Religion Stem From Egipt ?
    The origin of Monotheism would have to be from '' Ham '' . The father of '' Cush and Mizraim '' and being '' Mizraim is the Biblical name for '' Egipt Genesis 10;6 , Then '' Ham and Cush would be describing Pre-Dynastic Egipt in Cush and Neolithic Egipt in Ham . From Ham back is Neolithic
    ( Nile + ithic ) , People Who dwell around The Nile or The Rivers as In Genesis 2;13 , And because Cush was the son of Ham .

    Cush's reign and the people of his time would be Pre-Dynastic , And Mizraim Whose name is written in Plural . When its singled out becomes Mizr ( Egipt ) + Ra ( rosh or reah , the 20th letter of the hebrew alphabet for '' head or leader '' ) + Im ( A Plural Ending ) . Mizr '' Matsour '' Which is the same as Menes . is The Initator , the first , the head or leader of The First Dynasty , Which would be the Starting of the 46 Dynastic Period .

    As I mentioned earlier , The Sons of Noah migrated back to Egipt after the flood , Which means that was not their first migration , Thus The Scientific Finding Of Man Evolving Out Of Africa First And Spreading Throughout The World Out Dates The VAalidity Of The Bible .

    L.A. Times . 11/30/00 . By Time Medical Writer . Thomas H . Maugh ll . '' 2.6- Billion - Years - Old Carbon May Be Oldest Remains Of Life On Land . States ; Remnants of organic matter in soil collected in south africa indicate that microorganisms had moved from the earth's oceans onto land at least 2.6 billion years ago , according to Re-searchers from pennsylvania state university . Although life has been known to exist in the oceans for at least 3.8 billion years . .
     
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    The Bible Origin

    :thinking: First of all one has to be able to not think in extream terms but keep a open mind and hopefuly have a pure enough heart to "Hear" when the "Creator" of all things is "speaking". "All of the Holy Phrophets", some we know and some we don't know. Had a major connection with Africa or what is now refered to as Egypt. The Old Testament or (Torah) tells of Abram going into Egypt and after he got there his name changed to Abraham, Prophet Jesus and his earth mother and father were told by the Angle "Gabrel" to flee into Egypt "Ware you will be among your own", Phrophet Moses was educated in the ways of "Egypt" and many others were tought by the "Egyptions" or "Black-African".
    The Europen grave robbers "Archeologest" came into Egypt (Africa) to dig-up the graves of our "Fathers and Mothers", they found a text under the head of the corps "Mummies",they named what they discovered "The Book of the Dead" because it was found with the dead persons body. The proper name for these "Sriptures or text" is "Come-ing forth by 'Ra' or Day". From these Sriptures the Europens "Copied" from the "Origenal" Sriptures what came to be known as Holy Scritpures today. Any one to day that has read the so-called book of the dead will understand the connection with the Torah, Bibel and Qur'an; the words of the so-called Book of the Dead or properly "Come-ing forth by Ra or Day" historicly being "Thousands" of years "Older". PEOPLE KNOW THY SELF. There is no way possible to properly understand any thing with out serious study and rescerch into the true history of Africa Brothers and Sisters.
    Sincerely
     
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    Good points brothas, Time will reveal :yo:
     
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    Issa Asked: Where Does The Bible Fit In All This Scientific Data , , Which Is Dis-Proing Its ?Where does the bible fit in all this scientific data, Which is Dis-Proving It's Validity ?


    The bible does not have to fit into man's "scientific data" in order to prove it's validity. Being that God is the master of all science, it is best that we fit into HIS "science". For the wisdom of man is foolishness to God. Seeing that He is the wiser one, we should choose to follow Him by faith through simple trust. He is NOT seeking to appease us with knowledge or proof of his existence. He seeks only those with a contrite heart...those with a childlike heart...those who will follow Him with simple faith, seeing through a glass darkly. Faith pleases Him. Therein, we are taken to a place in Him, spiritually where the wisdom of the world has no place. Man's scientific knowledge will not bring us to this place in God...only God's Son, Jesus Christ (oops I said that word...oh well :D ...it's the truth) can bring us to that place in relationship with God. Thank goodness I don't have to rely on knowing the scientific data of some man in order to find God. Else I would be drowning in a sea of confusion :swim: seeing that so many "know it all" guys are in this world trying to "disprove" the existence of the All-Mighty God.

    Respectfully Finished With This Thread.
     
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    You Have Lot Of Mouth . If This God You Believe In Is Real Why Are You So Lazyyy To Prove What I Write Is Wrong ? The God You Worship Is A Wimp Just Like You . You Are Nothing More Then A Self Righteous Fake Who Goes Around Getting Into Other People Business Hideing Behind This Fake God You Believe In . Until You Can Prove Anything I Write Wrong , Stay In Your Place . You And I Both Know You Don't Know Anything Because If You Did You Would Use So Many Excuse Like You Don't Read Post With 100 Words Or More . So Let Not Waste My Time . With Your Self Righteous Games . Ok
     
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    I Love You Baby...Why Must It Always Be This Way Between Us?:kiss1:
     
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    Is The Bible The Manuscript Of The Devil ?

    Yes , Churches , Ministries , Preachers , ,Imaams , And Rabbis , don't even have that much information into what that bible is saying and how it's been coded and put together . and what each thing means . If you go all the way back to the fiest word in the bible ( Genesis 1 ;1 ) . You will find the word '' ( The Aramic / Hebrew Word Barasheeth ) . They say in the '' Beginning '' . However the Hebrew word says '' Barasheeth '' . The word '' Beth '' is the second letter in the Hebrew Alphabet .

    You go to the Koran . it says '' Bismi Allah < Arabic >or '' Bismi '' . The First letter or the sentence that opens '' El Tasmiyah , Bismi .
    And if you go to the christian bible , The first letter is '' Beta . 3 B's
    ( Beh , Bah , Beta ) . 3 Second letters ( Ah - Beh , Alif - Bah . Alpha -- Beta . 3 Seconds . 3 Second letters . 2.4.6.In a book . That Consists of 66 Books . This book is a numerical book . Everything is hidden in numbers , mysticism , mysteries , which the cabalistic society tries to decipher , ( 1Corinthians 2 ; 7 ) .

    Bible -New Testament , 1Corithians 2 ;7 ( In Greek )
    '' But < alla > we speak < laleo > the wisdom < sophia > of God < theos >in < en > a mystery < musterion > , even the hidden < apokrupto > wisdom , which < hos > God < theos > ordained < proorizo > before < pro
    the world < aion > unto < eis > our < hemon > glory < doxa > .
    '' But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery , Even the hidden wisdom , Which God ordained before the world unto our glory ;

    Here Is Wisdom Revelation 13 ; 18
    Bible-- New Testament , Revealtion 13 ;18 ( In Greek )
    Here , < hode > is < esti > wisdom , < sophia > . Let him that hath < echo > understanding < nous > count < psephizo > the number < arithmos > of the beast < theerion > ; for < gar >it is < esti > the number < arithmos > of a man < anthropos > and < kai > his < auto > number . < arithmos > is Six hundred threescore and six < chi xi stigma >
    '' Here is wisdom , Let him that hath understanding count the number of the Beast ; for it is the number of a man ; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

    Genesis / Exodus / Leviticus / Number / Deuteronmy / Joshua / Judges /
    Ruth /1Samuel / 2Samuel /1Kings / 2Kings / 1Chronicles / 2Chronicles /
    Ezra / Nehemiah / Esther / Job / Psalms / Proverbs / Ecclesiastes / Song of Solomon

    Isaiah / Jeremaih /Lamentations / Ezekiel / Daniel / Hosea / Joel / Amos / Obadiah / Jonah / Micah / Nahum / Habakkuk / Zephaniah / Haggai / Zechariah / Malachi / Matthew / Mark / Luke / John /Acts /

    Romans / 1Corinthians / 2Corinthians / Galatians / Ephesians / Philippians / Colossians / 1Thessalonians / 2Thessalonians / 1Timothy / 2Timothy / Titus / Philemon / Hebrew /James / 1Peter / 2Peter / 1John / 2 John / 3 John / Jude / Revealation /

    The above chart of the 66 books of the bible . When holding So-Called holy books , Yor're holding in your hands the devil's manuscripts of destruction , and I'll tell You that thecreated you by nature were evil people . These malevolent beings are responsible for Commentaries and Interpretation , which led to the Talmud and the Mishnah , The hadith Sunna . This Code of laws led To Racism , Zionism , Arabs and Muslims War and Death . They Telepathically Communicated The Scriptures .

    Generally referred To As ''' Divine Inspirations '' Which are responsible for the 13th Self - Appointed Disciple Paul's. addition , And fabrications . Which again led to a a series of books . That are responsible for the many Denominations Of Christianity . Wr . Bloodshed Racism And Sects.

    So , it isplain to see how these Malevolent beings step into oraganized religions. from their own base of Hinduism . To poison themasses , Controlled and steered them in the direction of which they chose , Leaving all of you open . hoping by prediction that some type of savior would come for them at the end < LaughingBigTimeHere > In the case of Judaism He's called Ha Mashiakh . Or The Messiah , In The Case Of Christianity He's Called The Christ = Crisis , And in Islam. He's Called Al Masib , But not the real one The Anti - One .The false one . They are the

    ones that gave you this '' Jesus '' Interpretation . That would Masifest Periodically To The Christians With Long Blond Hair And A Beard . Or Even Allow Many To Heal One Or Two . To Fool Millions . Which Leaves A Doorway For These Malevlent Beings . You Are Left With Hoping And Wishing That Some Being Is Going To Come And Save You . Now You Have These Watered Down Bible With The Many Thousand Of Version And Mistranslation . And You Call Them The Words Of God .

    Why Do People Hold On To Religion ? People hold on to religion because they can't make it any other way in life . Religion is basically A Crutch . The Only people that cling to religion are those who can't face the real world . People use religion as an Escape .People make religion look important because they have failed . And are sitting around waiting and Praying that one day God . Allah Or Yahweh Is Going To Come Save Them And Take All Their Worries Away . And That's What Teligion Teacher You . It Teaches You Faith , Belief , And Symbolism .
     
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    Issa Said: And are sitting around waiting and Praying that one day God . Allah Or Yahweh Is Going To Come Save Them And Take All Their Worries Away .


    Do you have a better suggestion Issa? Do you have a better way than trusting in God. Is there a better way than praying to God or waiting on Him or having faith in Him. Please tell Issa...what (o' wise one) do YOU suggest that others do, if not the above. If you are wise enuff... is it too much to ask that you ask this question in 200 words or less? Tell me...what do you suggest I do if trusting in Jahweh is vain.

    Waiting to hear from you...
     
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    Careful Sister Joyce, You might find yourself sucked in to his cult.They think that Malachi York is the SAVIOR and look up to him for guidence and wisdom. Go to www.factology.com and check out their beliefs and teachings.
     
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    Getting Involved In An Argiument That None Of Your Business

    Getting involved in an argument that is none of your business is like going down the street and grabbing a dog by the ears . A Man Or Woman who misleads someone and then claims that he or she was only Kidding Or Jokeing is like a madman / MadWoman playing with a deadly weapon . Without wood , a fire goes out ; without gossip , quarreling stops .

    Charcoal keeps the embers glowing , wood keeps the fire burning , andthe trouble maker keep arguments alive . Gossip isso tasty ! How we love to swallow it ! Insincere talk that hides what you are really thinking is like a fine glaze on a cheap clay pot . A hypocrite hides his or her hate behind flattering words .

    They may sound fine . but don't have faith in him or her . Because his or her heart is filled to the brim with hate . He or She may disguise His or Her hatered .but everyone will see the evil thing He or She does . People who set traps for others get caught themself . People who start landslides get crushed .

    You have to hate someone to want to hurt Him or Her with lies . Insincere talk brings nothing but ruin .
     
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