Black People Politics : WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?

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  1. Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

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    For BLACK PEOPLE to make progress as a National political body we must look at ourselves with a spirit of self-criticism which allows us to purge ourselves of reactionary elements and tendencies so we can develop pro-active strategies and solutions.

    Therefore, I ask is the quote above a true statement?

    Who among us has ATTACKED "the idea and concept of a national Black political agenda"?

    Secondly, who, in setting a national agenda, has determined that a fundamental objective is to "put our folks in the senate"?

    Is "putting our folks in the senate" a strategy that will lead us to self-determination and national liberation?
     
  2. jamesfrmphilly

    jamesfrmphilly going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    i believe there should be a liberal party.
    liberals seem to always get shafted by the democrats.

    there probably also needs to be a black party. whether that party should be a part of a liberal party or stand alone i don't know.

    while a senate seat would be nice it is more important as to who sits in the seat then just to have it and putt some weak person in there.
     
  3. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    thank you brother James, and as a real man , and member of DEstee for over five years you post some solutions and not just boring hisory classes to put folks to sleep

    your focus is on the community rather then other members who as you say get a nut off of attacking black folks but when white folks come here and say they support the Tea Party.

    they act like little lambs


    One would assume that anyone who has been at Destee for more then 5 years consistantly and talks about the work they have done and the peole they know and their family and children would be on the front [page of Destee.com


    with a Special group

    dealing with community development upliftment and imrovement,
    posting and suggesting solutions

    that folks can try in their particular cvommunity, city then state

    and then come back to the site and tell how things went, to get insight on how to improve certain things were there was difficulty in implementing the solution,

    and encouragement for the successes of said solution,
    so that the information provided could be a learning experience

    and something that each reader can replicate in their own community with their block association or other Black organizations,
    and then have dialogues with adjacent block associatios

    such a process would in time create a viable resource,

    so that the next step would be the establishment of setting up networks to support candidates with our interests and our agendas and using facebook and twitter,
    to as the multilevel marketers do, as Imhotep Gary Byrd mentioned,
    on WBAI yesterday, each person communicate with 5, 20 or 50 others and spread the message and the imperative regarding a candidate

    public grassroots funding can work, and even compete with the corporate oligarchy chedda and the foreign funding, and it has been proven in Connecticut times,
    heck we ate about 5 million in snacky chips since this morning around the nation, so e darn sure can channel such discretionary funds into something productive for the general good of the national Black community



    but the focus and the heart has to be there first!

    rather then get involved in senseless and tiresome flamewars
     
  4. WARRIOR

    WARRIOR BAMN - By Any Means Necessary PREMIUM MEMBER

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    EVEN THOUGH WE SEEMINGLY HAVE ONE OF OUR OWN HOLDING THE HIGHEST APPOINTED OFFICE IN THE LAND WITHIN A WHITE SYSTEM.....

    I WILL ALWAYS HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING ANYTHING WILL GET DONE AT THAT LEVEL ON OUR BEHALF WITHOUT US AS A PEOPLE PUTTING OUR FOOT DOWN COLLECTIVELY TO INITIATE THE CHANGES.....

    UNTIL WE STOPPED RIDING THE BUSES , STARTED WALKING ABREAST INSTEAD OF SINGLE FILE , AND KEEPING OUR MONEY IN OUR POCKETS....THE NATURE OF EACH ONE OF THOSE RELATIONSHIPS HAD NOT CHANGED....( as said by Dr. Amos Wilson )...

    IF ONLY WE CAN CHANGE OUR PERCEPTION OF OURSELVES.....SEE OURSELVES AS A NATION INSTEAD OF AS INDIVIDUALS....BECAUSE INDIVIDUALITY IS AT THE HEART OF OUR DIVISIONS I BELIEVE...AND TELEVISION IN MY OPINION SOLIDIFIES THOSE DIVISIONS...

    I AM ALL FOR A BLACK NATIONAL POLITICAL AGENDA.....SO ALL OF OUR ISSUES CAN BE DEALT WITH AND CHECKED OFF AS WE DEAL WITH THEM ONE AT A TIME....THIS WAY , EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE...

    ON ANOTHER NOTE....I ALSO BELIEVE NO MATTER HOW MANY AFRICANS WE GET INTO THE SENATE , THE POWER STRUCTURE CAREFULLY SELECTS THEM AND ASSIGNS INDIRECT RESISTENCE TO THEIR INITIATIVES....

    IN OTHER WORDS....I HAVE NO FAITH WHATSOEVER IN THIS SYSTEM....BUT I AM WILLING TO WORK WITH ANY AFRICAN TO GET SOMETHING DONE ON OUR BEHALF.....THROUGH PATIENCE OF COURSE....



    WARRIOR
     
  5. jamesfrmphilly

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    never thought i would see this again

    i think it will be going back to the streets.

    with the corporations controlling the government there will be little recourse for the common man.
    street war is coming again. (see france) this time it will be nasty.

    it is important that black people form an organizational structure to co ordinate.
    we going to have to give up the flame wars for the real wars. brothers got to stop fronting.

    we cannot do it on our own either.

    we will need to work with latins, native americans and leftist whites also. omowalejabali is right on this point.
    i don't much like working with the other groups but we gotta do what we gotta do.
    i don't have the strength to do a lot anymore but i will do what i can.

    class war is coming.
     
  6. Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I agree on my points with one exception. Class warfare is already here. I just happen to live in a state where the political Left is pulling together, at most levels of government and the electorate, but also this is happening with a swing in Latino voters to the Left as well, which is driving this change. I can't say the same for states such as Georgia, with Tea Party "independents" taking over the governor's House. But at least the political Right is being challenged within.

    I think those of you in states like Illinois, Penn, Ohio and Florida, especially traditional "liberal" strongholds are now on the frontline of having to strategize against these rightist gains.

    More later.
     
  7. Ankhur

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    like you said the flame wars and backbiting has to stop first


    and on that note I wonder why my post was used

    without qouting it

    and qouting it out of context

    as has been done about 8 times in 2 days,what is that about?

    how does that help unity or progress/
     
  8. Ankhur

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    It is all a matter of focus,
    such as what was the real focus of this post? to foster unity or raise questions already answered from the post were the qouted statement was taken from

    My post!
     
  9. Omowale Jabali

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    Who among us has ATTACKED "the idea and concept of a national Black political agenda"?
     
  10. Ankhur

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    folks even attack the idea and concept of a national Black political agenda so
    where is the energy focus and funds going to come from to put our folks in the senate?


    That all depends on who made this statement and what was it in reference to

    but realy what is the motive of this post and the point?:10500:
     
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