Black Spirituality Religion : When Your "Haters" Are In the Spirit World.

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  1. Metaverse

    Metaverse Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    It's been 7 months now. And Rob still can't find a job. But unlike some Black Men in America, he's not blaming "the Man" Wall Street or the Recession. He knows exactly who is doing it to him. Carlos. An Ex-Friend that got caught up in a cross fire with the police about a year ago. Actually it was Rob's snitching that caused the incident. Rob was the only one who knew about Carlos' upstate drug connects and his different hiding places up-north. Had he never gave up his information perhaps Carlos would still be alive.

    The Cops came by his job asking questions, since him and Carl weren't friends anymore he didn't feel too loyal about protecting him.

    No it wasn't guilt. And it wasn't karma either. In a strange way, Carlos had it coming to him anyway. He had fathered a child with his best friend Matty's Wife, and his best friend was raising the child as his own unknowingly. Things like that caused Rob to part ways with him, he couldn't be trusted as a true friend.

    But why was Rob so sure Carlos was the source of his misfortune? Because the day after his death, he came to him in a dream and told him.

    "*itch I'm going to make life for you a living hell!" He heard his voice as sharp as if he was standing next to his bed. Of course he didn't believe it at first.
    Then about 2 days later, his Boss just ups and fires 5 people from the restaurant he was working for. Not because business was slow but because he wanted a well managed staff. All of a sudden. After 2 years.

    3 weeks later, Rob has to move back in with his Mother and Step-Father because he doesn't have enough money to stay afloat on his own. Carlos continued to visit him. Haunting him, spiting at him. In one dream he saw him at the window, writing his name backwards in blood.

    And you thought you had problems?

    Rob had a strange feeling that Carlos' spirit and presence was literally around him at all times. Sometimes when the wind wasn't blowing hard, or if he was indoors with all the doors and windows closed, he would get a strong scent of weed and babyoil, which was Carlos' signature scent. At times of course he felt as if his imagination was running wild. But then, things started disappearing.

    His Mom allowed him to stay in the basement, which wasn't much at all, he did have a pull out sleeper down there and a nightstand where he kept his change, his watch and other items. One morning he woke up and his watch was gone. Vanished. It was impossible for anyone to come downstairs and take it because the door to the basement was so noisy you couldn't open it without waking up the dead. Poor choice of words in this situation, but the most logical thought was that Rob forgot his watch somewhere. It never turned up.

    We once asked the question "do we reach out from beyond" the evidence of that is overwhelming. What do we gain from ignoring it? What about wars? Hundreds and thousands of people killed in cold blood. Are they all now busy at work seeking revenge against those that "supported" their demise?

    And what would you do if you had haters in the spirit world?
     
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    Jaisolovely Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    What can you do?
     
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    I want to know what a person in this situation can do aswell. My only solution is traveling over the water (the Ocean) to get rid of the bad energy.
     
  4. Alexandra

    Alexandra Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Interesting situation (despite no transvestites featuring lol).

    I agree with you, there is no point in ignoring the spirit. Or is there? hmm..

    What would I do? Seek a divination to ascertain what I can do to appease the spirit. Like you said, good Brother Metasaience, it is all about seeking retribution.

    In the meantime, protecting myself wouldn’t go amiss (I don’t have my book of shadows with me, or I would offer examples).

    I would also consider securing the services of a rootworker. Dr Kioni is awesome, he is not only a rootworker but also a Palero priest, so he provide a multitude of services, from divination to getting rid of the spirit, if it is hell bent on destroying you.

    Peace,
    Alexandra
     
  5. Metaverse

    Metaverse Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Sistah Jaisolovely! Welcome back. It's been awhile.
    No Queen Alex! No Transeys in this one. But you know I remember in one of these threads, I wrote about another similar indecent. The family had spirits following them from house to house. At first they thought the house was haunted, but the Father was keeping a secret. He became so-called "saved" and was a Pastor for his own church. But in the past he was a really serious gansta and had put a few bodies in the ground if you know what I mean.

    They tried to have the house blessed, it worked for awhile, but eventually they had to get a serious rootworker to come in and do it. I heard this family had serious spirits, not the ones that make noises at night, but the ones that can throw things at you or leave bruises on your body.

    Amnat77- crossing over large bodies of water always seems to work.

    But here's another aspect.

    Sometimes we have protectors in the spirit world too, and lash out at people that try to harm us in life. I'm still researching the possibilities of this same thing happening between Tupac and Biggie.

    When Tupac was shot and killed in a drive-by shooting in Las Vegas, where he had been watching a Mike Tyson boxing match, rumors of Biggie's possible involvement in the murder cropped up almost immediately. Biggie denied the allegations. Also around this time, Biggie was involved in a car accident that shattered his leg and would force him to use a cane for the rest of his life.

    For the spirit realm, Tupac could've inspired Biggie's death as well. It's all in the matter of motivating the right minds.

    From the movie Shaft:

    Peoples Hernandez: You are not a cop anymore.
    John Shaft: Do you think that makes me less dangerous or more dangerous?

    Without a body, your "Hater" is more dangerous.
    Word to the wise-(there are more Haters without bodies)....

    Thus, this is why "we" do what we do.

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  6. Alexandra

    Alexandra Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Indeed it is.

    "Those who danced were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music". ~ Angela Monet

    Ps - You never did say what you would do, if you were in this Rob's situation. :)

    Blessings,

    Alexandra
     
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    Metaverse Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Queen Alex. I'd call Sholanda.

    Well. What I want to say I couldn't do because I'm in a relationship. But I'd really call Sholanda, or a female rootworker, conjurer, etc and do some serious rubbing of the feet. As well as other things. I stand firm behind sex magick.

    And I already know folks will think I'm joking when I say this. But crossing over a "large" body of water does work. But wait.

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    Some of the most powerful Black Women in any system, don't fit into tight skinny dresses. And yes- I did go there.

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    I mean, who wasn't afraid of the Mother on what's happening?
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    Why? Because she was big, and she was black and she was stern.
    I don't know one spirit that isn't at least careful about the image of the dark mother, which these Women usually represent from Mammy on up to Oprah.

    And if you know what big Momma needs, you don't have to worry about spiritual Haters at all. Big Momma will take care of you. Even on the spiritual levels, there are Goddesses that can be channeled for that purpose.

    There are banishment rituals female magicians can perform using sex magick can keep rebellious spirits away, or vengeance seekers. These rituals are performing during a full moon, when the female energy is at it's peek, or within a casted circle of candles and power stones. It's usually good to banish the spirit by name, if you indeed know who it is, if not a general banish would do of any spirit meaning you harm. Both the Man and Woman visual a protection shield around them during the act, during the climax a spell is uttered outloud to clear the home or even the body of the vengeful spirit.

    Now there's something you didn't see in the Poltergeist movie.

    A good juju worker could put some juju on some jewelry too, and this acts as a good barrier.
     
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    I don't think your joking, many cultures hold this belief including the Yoruba.
     
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    The same thing I'd did when my computer broke.

    Get it fixed.

    And when I was broke along with my PC

    Learn how how to fix it my self.

    The one good thing about being broke is that it forces you to wise up.
     
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    Hey Alexandra

    You know anything about Love spells?
    It would be a cool thread to start.
    Love spells sound good
    but.....
    I hear a lot of bad things about them.
    it would be an interesting and enlightning convo
     
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