Chief Elder Osiris : WHAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T KNOW !!!!

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  1. Chief Elder Osiris

    Chief Elder Osiris Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    WHAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T KNOW !!!!



    By Chief Elder Osiris

    You can easily believe about something and do not know and understand anything about that something, yet because you have been conditioned to believe about that you do not understand, thus do not know, you make claim to be intelligent about that which you do not understand, and know nothing about that something you belief about, simply because you have been made to expect the out come about that something, to be that which you have been conditioned to believe about.

    Information come in a precise mental process, events are the actualization of the phenomona, and it is not neccessary to all Time be understood, in order to be known, because in order to be able to know and understand the phenomona in action, you must have received the information about what caused the Phenomona to occur and is qualified to understand such information.

    We write so much in a form for it to be received as information, but such information has no meaning if the receiver do not have the ability to understand what is to be known about the information, because understanding does not come by believing but by knowing the reason of the fact that qualify you to understand the information being shared.

    So on this internet and all through Life, We are conditioned to believe that which we do not understand, even though we may have knowledge of what we need to understand, so to become one that Know and Understand, require for you to be qualified to Profoundly Reason Rationally and Logically about the information being shared.

    Belief is the most modern babaric method of using the Mind, because it has no set method of Check and Balance in determing the Truth about that which you have been conditioned to believe, it is a Mental process without the mental requirement to understand that which you have been conditioned to believe concerning that which you claim to know, yet is without the ability to understand that which you believe, because you are not in the Know of that which you have been conditioned to believe you know to be True.

    Knowledge without understanding is a waste of the Mind Time, yet if the quality of Mind has been calibrated to believe without the ability to understand what is needed to know, which is beyond the provocation to believe, then the Divine truth exceed your ability to understand that which you believe is true, because Divine truth require for you to be able to understand that which you are claiming that you believe you know, yet Knowledge is not akin to belief but is the companion to Understanding, because without Understanding, Knowledge is not Divinely Present.

    To believe your way through life is to acknowledge that you do not know the Divine Truth about Life Process, and the Happenings that require the Being of Life to understand what is required to know, in order to recognize that which is understood to be Divinely True and Real, such is out side of the physical domain of Life, which is the domain that live life without the understanding of the knowledge that reveal to the physical life the Divine Truth, such a knowing of the Divine Truth, is what require Thought with understanding to Know of the process through which Divine Information Flow to Life.

    It is the Sense of your belief that deceive you into believing that you know that which you do not understand about Life, and to live a life based upon Believing Reality, is to verify that Life is under the control of the Being that is causing you to believe about that which you do not understand the information that qualify you to know about Life exoteric happening, and Life Esoteric Revelation, the former dealing with the Illusion of Reality and the latter verifying the Divine Reality of Self beyond Life action, but is inclusive to the existence of the Self revealed inner action, there is where Divine Truth and Reality Reside, a Realm that is beyond Belief, meaning it is beyond Life physical action.

    So, there is no major mystery as to why the so call Afrikan is in the state of Life condition we are in today, our present condition is what the Belief system of our Life is ordered to maintain, so it does not matter how much the so call Black Afrikan Jump and Shout about a want to have a better Life under the cloak of our Belief, about our Life, such a quality of Life Mind, is not designed to elevate the so call Black Afrikan to a higher life living realm, because the so call Black Afrikan Belief system is calibrated to lift the Life of the so call Black Afrikan, no higher than the authority over the so call Black Afrikan belief system will allow the Life of the so call Black Afrikan to experience, which is a Life absent of the ability to Understand what should be Known by and of the Life of the so call Black Afrikan.

    The so call Afrikan make claim to a belief intelligence, which is what have the Afrikan not to be qualified to Understand what is to be Known about the Afrikan Self, and it is that Afrikan Self, that is with the Understanding of what is required for the Afrikan to Know, in order to be able to reclaim Afrika and raise the so call Black Afrikan from the Grave of Belief, a state of Mind that prevent the Divine Mind from revealing what the Life of the so call Afrikan need to understand the information that the so call Afrikan need to Divinely Know, which require a mental process capable of Reuniting the Black World, based upon the Understanding of the Knowledge needed to return the Life living of the Divine Being, which now is serving as a Believing Afrikan Human Being, using the type of Mind that is the cause for Afrika being no longer under the control of the Afrikan and the Afrikan being Divided as a Nation today.

    So you are of the want for Obama to be your salvation in a belief system that he is now so sanctifying for and to you so call Afrikan Americans, your belief and lack of understanding being your biggest stumbling block to your Liberation.

    Can you Understand That, Beloved ?

    Be Kind to your self.

    Hoteph

    Osiris
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    one of your better posts in my opinion

    sad to the fact that those who follow "beliefs"

    can't even see this in hindsight

    GREAT PIECE CHIEF


    HELLO
     
  3. Edward Williams

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    I know my body digests food but I don't understand how it does it.
     
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    Meaning that you know not about the Digestive System, therefore you do not Understand it.

    Hoteph

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    our problem




    Our problem was claiming obama dear elder. When in fact he was already claimed by them long ago. WE just thought we could go along for the ride and get a little sum thing out of the deal because he shares some similar physical characteristics. He does not belong to us. Now that i look at him in this lite. He is the best man for the job. Not the best black man. Just the best man. WE are the ones trying to make him what he is not. He never professed to be the savior of the black race in dispora or abroad. I will expect no more from him than any other canidate thus far. He appears to be a good man thus far . Allow himself to show his true colors they allways do.
     
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    Hetep Brother,

    I know my body digests food but I do not understand how it digests food. I know that it happens. The title of the thread is;

    WHAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T KNOW !!!!

    But I do know that my body digests food even though I do not understand how it digests food. I know about what is called the digestive system. I even know some of the elements involved in its operation. But I do not know why it works the way that it works. In other words, it is possible to know something and not understand it.
     
  7. MRS. LADY

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    Hi Brother Edward :)

    Fancy meeting you here....

    I would have to agree with the Cheif that "What you do not understand you do not know"

    Your taking what he is saying profanely? (Cheif correct me if that is not the correct term) ....

    But in the "mundane"..... what u do not understand u do not know...

    I'll use my prior example....

    There are pedophiles out there... there are...

    Do I understand them? No, I don't.

    Your a revolutionary Brother, so you should KNOW how it feels to be misunderstood....

    I asked the Cheif to explain to me the major differences between jeoulousy and envy......

    I've never felt these things so deep that it would cause me to act in a way that I OBSERVE other people acting....

    ya, have I seen a cute dude a be like man I wish I had someone like that... did I deep down inside harbor any animosity for the person that has him... or whatever else... nah.....

    just not built that way.....

    I give and get love .. I understand that...... I know that... and also the opposite of that...

    As far as a digestive system Brother in more of a literal sense you really don't know that u have a digestive system... someone told u that...

    u'd have to cut ur own body open to check....

    or u could use ur rear view.....

    any way just my thoughts....

    much love!
     
  8. Edward Williams

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    These are the kinds of conversations that go on adinfinitum...100 pages even...without proper understanding. No one has of yet given any definition for the word "knowing" or the word "understanding". Based on these definitions that anyone uses at any given time what anyone is saying could be correct.

    What we usually do is when someone says something, we take what they say and use whatever definitions we think they mean, because we have been trained out of asking questions...trained into thinking it makes us look dumb, and we do not ask enough questions.


    So my contribution is to ask, because I am required to do so;

    (1) What do you mean when you say "knowing"?
    (2) What do you mean when you say "understanding"?
     
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    I would have to say first Brother Edward, with regard to being trained to "think"....

    We are trained to "beleive"... the definition of faith in the bible is the evidence of things hoped for but unseen....... religion wants people to have "faith" in what they tell us... beleive it without question... so I applaud the requirement to ask a question because it means that u seek truth... an action which can only be of a divine nature...

    quesion # 1 .... Knowing is a concept of having faith in what you feel is true irregardless of what anyone else's opinion or rationale is.

    question #2.... Understanding is a concept in which u derive the fundamentals of any situation and apply it to yourself. You can make sense out of it. For example, a person can be learned to complete algerbra, however, that same individual, although arrived at an accurate answer, does not understand the steps performed in order to reach it. A good teacher teaches you to fish, and the opposite of that is to give you a fish. Both situation the ultimate goal is to eat, but the former not knowing how to fish remains dependent and does not KNOW how to fish for oneself.........

    that would be my dispostion.

    hotep.
     
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