Black History Culture : What were the indigenous Numbers/Months/Days in Swahili?

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  1. Asomfwaa

    Asomfwaa Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Peace Family,

    I'm trying to study Swahili from books and I am running into the problem of the Number system being part Arab and the months being part English.

    1 = Moja
    2 = Mbili
    3 = Tatu
    4 = Nne
    5 = Tano
    6 = Sita
    7 = Saba
    8 = Nane
    9 = Tisa

    Source:
    http://www.masai-mara.com/mmswn.htm

    Where 6 and 7 are Arab numbers. As well as 20 and 30, and more.

    This leads to the Months being Arab too.

    For instance:

    Jumatatu (Monday)
    Jumanne (Tuesday)
    Jumatano (Wednesday)
    Alhamisi (Thursday)
    Ijumaa (Friday)
    Jumamosi (Saturday)
    Jumapili (Sunday)

    Source: http://www.afropedea.org/african-science/swahili-calendar

    Where Thursday and Friday are clearly Arab. Not without irony, Saturday has the number 1 in it; Sunday, 2; Monday, 3 . . . so clearly Thursday and Friday would have 6 and 7 yet neither the numbers 6 nor 7 are non-Arab so one can't use them to find out the original names of these weekdays.

    Separately,

    Januari
    Februari
    Machi
    Aprili
    Mei
    Juni
    Julai
    Agosti
    Septemba
    Oktoba
    Novemba
    Desemba

    Source: Ibid.

    Are clearly English. This site did suggest that there were traditional names of Month 1 and Month 2 e.g. mwezi wa pili . . . but that still doesn't give us insight into what were the original numbers of 6 and 7.

    Anyone have any insight?
     
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    I don't have any insight ... but i've learned already ... with what you've shared above ... :toast1:

    I didn't know that Swahili used some Arab and English to form their words / phrases.

    It's all very interesting and i'll continue reading and learning with you ... if you let me ... :love:

    Much Love and Peace.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    The language is called Ki Swahili, the people are called Swahili. You really have me confused now! Smile
     
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    The answer is provided in the link you provided.

    "Swahili Calendar is a lunar calendar base on the Islamic calendar. It contains 7 days."

    It's not based on a traditional calendar, nor is Swahili a purely indigenous language.
     
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    Oh. But numbers like 6 and 7 (20, 30, and so forth) are Arabic. It seems strange to me that these numbers are Arab.

    Thanks for insight!
     
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