Black People : What to do?

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  1. Hesaid

    Hesaid Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    This weekend i met two FLLYY Sisters at a
    restaurant. started kicking it, all was good had alot in common same style and loves, one of em... well both of em were feelin me. We were talkin bout Love and relationships and something was mentioned about homosexual relationships then they got defensive,
    all of a sudden it went cold.
    Yep they were, you know...That word that I dont believe exists.
    She started goin into Love is blind and man on
    man women on women,the spirits & all kinda
    Killoffosees, basically, do who you
    wanna ..down foe whatever..yada..yada,ra..ra.
    I just tried to agree with what i could, without
    lying i didnt want honey to slide, you know, keep the vibe.

    Anyway we got each others details.
    Okay!
    Now
    A Nigg** would **** em ****then have the other one *:kiss:* her & both****.
    but im a conscious man:), yeah theres a freak
    in all of us but at the core I dont wanna see two SISTERS together.
    I really need to know now whether we as
    Africans have inherited this sexual attitude
    (so i can build & share with em) or
    if I need to OPEN MY MIND.

    Seriously i want to put this GAY debate to bed.
    (Not literally)


    Ladies.






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  2. triniti424

    triniti424 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    :lol: my brotha if u can see yaself "OPENin" ya mind to somethin like this than why u need any otha input...if u can even entertain the idea its ya personal preference but uhhhh...be careful...I wouldnt myself and i think u would be opening yourself to some uneeded complications...even if it does give u a thrill...if u can still feel good about ya self after then...hey who can stop ya'

    myself...I love me my brothas...and uhhh...trust me my brotha i have turned away quite a few sista's tryin to push my door in the otha direction but I am SO ok..no way! lol
     
  3. Mahogany_Brown

    Mahogany_Brown Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Hesaid..bruh..you know I gotta speak to u on this before I add my enlightening commentary..lol...I know you might be tired of me saying this but certain words are not allowed on the forum..hey I totally understand that sometimes u want to express something and nothing but a good curse word will put the necessary emphasis on what u want to say..trust me I know...but according to the forum rules bruh certain words aren't allowed...so please try to suppress the urge to use 'em...there I made my speech..plus I can't even understand what u meant with all those astericks everywhere...I'll let my imagination try to make it out.....


    Ok..my take on this is that if this is how she/they feels then to me its might be hard for she/they to accept otherwise..many of us are on this "do whatever feels good" so it might be difficult...Not to say that u want a relationship with anyone of these ladies..but now before anything jumps off u can know how she/they feels about certain issues...therefore u won't be shocked later on wondering why u never knew that this person felt this or that way...By the way have u chosen which lady u wanted to talk to yet or are u still deciding..I couldn't really understand if u wanted to talk to both of them or one of them....hey in these times that we are living in nothing is suprising....

    ps..in regards to us as Africans inheriting a certain sexual attitude..we live in a white supremacist society that dictates how we should think, act, feel..etc...so of course many of us have inherited that cultures values....If u read the book titled, "The United Independent Compensatory Code/System/Concept" by Neely Fuller Jr..it talks about sex being one of the nine areas of people activity..and also shows how if u live in a country that is dominated by a particular culture(in this case or I should say the only case..white supremacy) pretty soon you'll start seeing things the way that culture's see things and sex is no exception..Also I heard that Mwalimu Baruti's book "The Sex Imperative" speaks about this issue also..the issue being European mentality being projected on Afrikans and accepted by Afrikans as their own thoughts,values, etc.....when its behavior learned and promoted by the culture that Afrikans live in....Just my own opinions..
    Peace..
     
  4. Hesaid

    Hesaid Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thanks Mahogany and Trinity,
    Your comments have been fruitful. I was just
    trying to make you aware of a certain attitude
    that brothers have to this bisexual female thing.
    Its a kind of greed. I am not excluded from this but my moral values and Afrocentric values (just about)stop this curiosity from going further.
    My intentions with this thread were to get
    some good solid overstanding on why our
    people are caving in to this way and if there
    are any spiritual repocussions and how i can
    develop a good solid argument to help these
    sisters see what is truly happening.
    Maybe (feeling the way i do) i aint the one to
    try but your book references are a good
    argument to start with.
    The confusion lies in the fact that (If it is considered a sin) unlike murder there appears
    to be no direct kharmic consequences, this weakens my argument bigtime.

    They like "Why not?"

    Basically I need now to see why its so wrong.
    I want enough proof so i dont need to ever
    ponder again.I think i have a general
    overstanding of wrong and right,
    but this one....................................


















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  5. Hesaid

    Hesaid Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Oh and im not certain which i like, i was more
    fascinated with their energy, i could go for
    either, it just seems like a waste to see such progressive sisters go down that road. it may be that they need awakening
    or maybe to be left alone.

    Brothers?
    Sisters?
     
  6. Hesaid

    Hesaid Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Im a do a Soul Doc on ya

    bump bump,

    earth to fam

    Heylp

    cmon now!
     
  7. Deepa

    Deepa Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    You are caught between two worlds, one that entices you to feed the cravings of your throbbing loins and the other that tells you that the response to those cravings could bring more consequences than you want. You also face supporting a lifestyle you have previously expressed a dislike for (homosexuality) by engaging or wanting to engage in some type of act with the women.

    Lustful Desire vs Active Responsibility Down There vs. Up There

    Many of us are tempted daily by something we know isn't beneficial to our beings and/or carrying some hypocritical ideals in the deep recesses of our minds. You aren't abnormal.

    That said, we are influenced by mainstream culture, built around controlling and slowly destroying us as people. Sexuality is part of that dynamic, it teaches us that deviation is acceptable, but considering the source, we know its not, its another way to steer us from progress and what we know is right. This system has effected every single part of our existence, it is up to you how you let it effect you.

    We have to understand what is right for our people and be willing to act on that as much as possible.
     
  8. Hesaid

    Hesaid Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thanks deepa you sound like your a thousand
    years old (wisdom wise).
    Ha
    throbbin loins funny, really.:x:
    I may be caught between the lower and higher
    self but my higher self helps me restrain from
    many lower desires eg. smoke drink. Im quite
    headstrong. Problem is this one stumps me
    I argue to gay men that the very act, which
    i cant really repeat here turns the stomach
    and is the breeding ground for much disease.
    Though when approached with the same
    situation concerning women i naturally feel more
    tolerance. I dont want to feel that way so i ask
    what argument is there to dismiss this practice
    as negative?

    I know its hard to answer but I still need a
    concrete case to use when addressing the issue
    with my (OH SO)lost people.

    Thanks deepa once again I admire your
    WISDOM.
    You are good at breaking things down.












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  9. Deepa

    Deepa Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I'm 25......shhhh don't tell nobody.

    We both Virgos I see, interesting.

    We have been taught that women are soft caring beings. Relations between them on various levels are considered more "natural" than between two or more men. Our status is as the nurturers who crave affection, gentle and soothing to the touch.

    Couple that with Americana cultural induced sexualized mysogynistic views of women as a fornicating tool and you've got a nice recipe for introducing comfortability with lesbian relationships and/or actions vs. gay men.

    Men are relegated to being pocket pool brutes on the prowl, hunting and gathering in all aspects of life. Stereotypes like "musty", "hairy", "burly", "rough" come with picturing the atypical man, not to mention that these stereotypes carry over to how men are suppose to act in the bedroom with women, so to think about that with two men makes for a rougher vision.

    Also, its been more acceptable for a female to show typical male characteristics or preferences than for a male, the words "sissy" and "punk" come to mind.
     
  10. Hesaid

    Hesaid Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Ahha indeed it is more acceptable for women
    to express masculinity in a patriarcle (excuse for
    a) world but is it within our God given free
    expression correct action to engage sex within
    the same gender? For me I truly think its wrong
    but i am finding more and more of my own
    people argueing in favour using the thesis and
    philosophies of western scholars who too
    were mostly Gay.
    I cant seem to get my throbbing loins round how we buy into that.
    :x: Thas still mad funny.

    Total change of subject
    Dare i ask on a site full a mystic scholars.
    Is virgo one of the four earth signs?