Black People : What Shall An Activist Do When There Is No Movement?

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  1. chuck

    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Back in the day, folks like me were aided via our deeds and words, etc., because our people were clamoring and demanding change...

    At best, these days: Some folk are just asking me if I can spare my loose change...

    Then was then...

    This is now...

    So is your heart in it?

    You are also going to have people around you wonder if you need or should want to have your head examined etc., if you truly hope and pray to help our folk, this time around...

    Some badly need it:

    Others are bound to act like they don't want it!

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  2. chuck

    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Are you prepared to be as adamant and outspoken--candid and honest--hardnosed and determined to speak up/out/etc. about our internal issues/problems/etc.--as a few of you continue to be about the external ones-?

    I. e., are you prepared to explore the causes of blatant and/or inexcusable levels of immorality, (or why else has it become acceptable for some single females to have so many children outside of wedlock and/or even common law relationships), disrespect abounds, along with personal issues/problems/etc., from obesity to substance abuse, etc. etc. etc.?

    It seems and sounds that some are as adamant against what I and others were fighting and struggling for, which is far too revealing than a few here do seem or sound to be able or willing to face up to, as well...

    Too oftentimes the present day so called 'black' lifestyle (really the modern day urban subculture) is a case study of being inferior in relationship to others again, though on the ignorance is not 'bliss' side, big time...

    Y'see, I never aspired to climb mountains when I was on vacation, or live in floating condos, while being able to ascess my bank account, etc. from a distance...

    Yes...

    All sorts of fantasy trips...

    But...

    All trips do eventually end...

    Rich and poor--who are reflections of the same b. s.--are merely flip sides of the same issues and problems--ala 2010...

    More food for thought...

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    Movements are started unfortunatly by incidents , like police brutality and the Panthers, and Rosa Parks arrest and the SCLC.

    as you say maybe complacency is a contagepous mental illness.

    As the tea party folks are raising hell we seem to be very quiet inspite of all the hell we are catching, Gil Noble has stated that many times over the past 3 years.
    All one can do is still do the volunteer, internet research for local non profit community agencies serving the community, volunteer with progressive Black elected officials, work andcontribute and donate to the soup kitchens, mentoring programs,
    and volunteer ones talents were needed, for instance as a graphic artist I advise, consult, and do graphic work and illustration for various Black community organizations.
     
  4. Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Question: What Shall an ACTIVIST Do When There Is No Movement?

    MY Answer: Recognize there can be no ACTIVIST if there is no movement. This is to say, as an ACTIVIST, know, be CONSCIOUS of who you are and the conditions in which you find yourself.

    If you see no MOVEMENT around you CREATE this MOVEMENT.

    You SEE, real MOVEMENTS are not born out of reaction but creative VISION.

    So, you must VISUALIZE the MOVEMENT that you seek to initiate and CREATE it. This then becomes a process of self-INITIATED Activism.

    For example, "I" guide MYSELF according to 4 Basic OBJECTIVES:

    Self-determination
    National liberation
    Socialist Re-construction
    Youth Empowerment

    These BASIC Objectives are ideological principles which guide my ACTIVISM within the framework of BLACK Consciousness and since the fundamental reality begins with SELF-determination my actions are totally independent relative to social organizations and constructs outside of my VISION.

    With the exception of the IRS which reminds me i need to go and file my taxes. lol!
     
  5. chuck

    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Yes, generally writing and speaking, I agree with you, Omo...

    But, on the g(eneral) p(rinciples) tip, I'm cautions and wary, i. e., when it comes to the specifics, etc., as regards kicking it in public and in print, about what it may well take to usher in new movements, on the positive and progressive side...

    And, it's stage two, bruh, as in --our need --and my want to face up to our own peoples contradictions/shortcomings, i. e., because whatever Fifty and Gucci be hyping, they are just a reflection of what others are buying and some are selling...

    It's like that:

    And that's the way it is...

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  6. Omowale Jabali

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    Ah...see...your point about 'caution' and 'wariness' is well taken, but this is also perhaps why you do not see the movement you are seeking to address because it is not obvious.

    As i was on my way to work i thought about my initial response to this thread and some things i did not share earlier.

    when i decided to cease organizing 'openly' after the la riots in 1992 i started looking for 'underground' methods of impacting my community, and the larger black cultural milieu at this was at the end of the so-called golden age of hip hop.

    as we flash forward interactive media and social networking have replaced conventional methods of organizing, mobilizing, and conscientizing our communities.

    blogging, video blogging, mobile technology...we are in a new technological era where one can utilize this technology to create net-roots campaigns and impact larger numbers of people trans-globally.

    blogs are replacing many news services and there is a debate ranging concerning the ethics behind blogging as opposed to journalism. blogging has no professional standards so you can create your own 'network' (thats what folks been doing on you tube) and go viral which is like a new form of hyphy.

    just do it bruh...and worry about the consequences later cuz contradictions always gonna be there...just gotta find ways to work around the.

    peace...
     
  7. medusanegrita

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    Can you spare any loose change?
    Spare some loose change for a fellow needy sister, can you?



    Nah, i guess my heart isn't in it.


    To answer the question, what shall an activist do when there is no movement - CREATE ONE!
    There is always some injustice somewhere, some cause to fight, something unjust to protest. Make up your signs, shake them up down, and speak on it.

    I'm no activist. I'm like James Dean turned into the old Marlon Brando - young, fresh, full of ideas, a rebel without a cause..... hidden beneath seditary corpulence, complacency, and indifference.

    And I watch opinion-changing movies such as The Boy in the Striped Pajamas and The Visitor, make up quizzes for facebook.... and have thoughts like 'dang, Roger Daltry still looks hot for an old timer. I wonder if his bod held up as well as his face.' And I wonder if I'll be that rich tramp with the secret stashes of money that no one knows about or will ever think I have.



    nah... guess my heart isn't in it.
    Can you spare any lose change tho?
    I looked within, and I'm all without.
    Can you spare?
     
  8. str8fiyah

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    Ok

    What should an activist do if there is no movement?

    IMO an activist is a movement. So if there is an activist there is a movement no matter how minute it may seem.
     
  9. chuck

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    Yes...

    If you don't agree with my assessment etc.:

    Your choice/right/option to start your own thread(s) and present alternative points of view etc.

    But...

    If all you can or will come back with is more cynicism and sarcasm, i. e., whenever I or somebody else 'dares' to disagree with you, (or visa versa):

    Then you're making yourself the issue and/or risking becoming a part of the problem...

    Also do keep that in mind as well...

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    Inspiring comments!

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