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If you don't use scripture, then what do you use? I use scripture.
I do not speak for scripture, scripture speaks to us all, and we take from it our own interpretations.
There are many sources of information and yes I hold scripture in high regard, but not as the sole and exclusive source of Spiritual information.
The spirit that is sinless gives life. If the spirit is dead because of sin, then the body will also die. Adam was suppose to live forever, but sin cut his life short.
How do you know Adam was suppose to live forever?
No, a gift can be given with expectations. God made a promise and that promise was a free gift to man for his salvation. It didn't cost man anything. We usually receive a gift for work we have done. This gift didn't require anything but only for man to believe by his faith.
If there is a requirement in exchange for the gift it is not a gift.
When you work and is compensated for that work...it is not a gift
Chances are had you not done the work you, you would not receive that gift.
Transactions coming in many forms...Incentives, Raises, Promotions, Bonuses and Guarantees (promises) etc
Ephesians 2: 8-9, "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast"
Acts 13: 32-33, "We tell you the good news: What God promised our fathers he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus..."
What you see in these verses, maybe different from what I see....it is against boasting about your deeds as a show of faith - as in philanthropy, or loudly praying and preaching so as to impress. It cannot be a condemnation of doing any good deed in any way.
Whose faith?.....having faith is the requirement
Faith is a form of Spiritual work not easily seen by others
Yet another scripture says
James 2:17
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Yes, the may be two sides of the same continuum but one gives life to the other in order that both may live as one.
Sin sin is disobedience to or rebelling against God.
1st. John 3: 4-5, Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that he (Jesus) appeared so that he might take away our sins."
And we all can be just like Jesus spiritually (focus) beings...in the spirit.
God created Satan in which sin would originate.
Isaiah 14: 12-15, How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit.
Sin is disobedience to God but yet and I quote you he created a being that He knew would would disobey and rebel against Him...
"God created Satan a being (angel) whom he knew was going to be the opposite of Him spiritually"
It then appears God created Satan for this purpose hence it is not a act of disobedience or rebellion.
If Satan was working for or with God, then Satan could be redeemed or forgiven. There is no redemption or forgiveness for Satan or his angels. Satan is working for Satan.
Not according to your own statements
Ezekiel 28: 14-17, You were appointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created until wickedness was found in you. Through your widespread trade, you were filled with violence and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of you splendor. So I threw you to earth...
Matthew 12: 31, And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
We see the same scriptures differently....which sin is unforgivable?
Ok, one more time. Hebrews 11: 3, By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
Yes....Faith is not visible but the works that faith accomplish is often visible
No, it is called justice.
For me its not just Justice....its Karma what goes around comes around.