Black People : What Makes You Better Than Any Other Black Person?

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  1. Destee

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    Peace and Blessings Family,

    We see it all the time, where one Sister or Brother attacks another, as if they are smarter, wiser, better than the one they are attacking.

    As this phenomena continues to overwhelm us ... our attacking (even killing) each other ... I wonder, what makes you better than another?

    Do you bring something to the table that makes you better than any other Sister or Brother? If so, what specifically is it?

    Oftentimes, it is the self proclaimed so-called wisest amongst us, that exhibits this kind of behavior (here).

    We will attack on behalf of religion, drugs, politics ... you name it, and we've attacked each other over it.

    The wisest should recognize that all of these things have been given to us, for the sole purpose of dividing, attacking, killing, and destroying our own selves.

    Yet the so-called wisest use the very tools given to destroy us, to attack their own people with / about, while talking of unity.

    Are these people as wise as they say? If they were, surely they'd see themselves being used to destroy their own people.

    But they don't see that ... all they see is their need to prove themselves better than the next ... by attacking who they think are lesser, know less, etc.

    If they were wise, they'd see that they are perpetuating the devastation of our own people, willingly participating in the demise of another Black Person.

    If we had an army, it would be filled with wounded, battered, shot, and stabbed soldiers, done by Members of their own army. This is the front line we have to offer.

    What specific, particular things, makes one Sister or Brother better than any other? Empowering them to attack their own.

    Can yall help me with this?

    Thanks in advance.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
  2. bientempo

    bientempo Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    This is usually caused by an over inflated ego. All people (generally) have something that they are better at than some of the people around them, but that does not make them better than others just better at that function.

    mis dos chele my 2 cents.
     
  3. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    people at this point,
    in this time in human history,
    present what they have;

    altruism or avarice,

    bicker or build,

    love or hate,

    We see it every where even in our own families, the psychopathic attitude of lack of compassion or even the slightest cosideration for others.
     
  4. medusanegrita

    medusanegrita Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Interesting. Wise Words. I like the part in bold.

    Well.... you know what they say... if you got it - FLAUNT IT!
    That doesn't mean just your body if you got a nice one. It also means your intellect, money, prestige, whatever you got that someone can be envious of. A lot of us get a sense of feeling, esteem, and self worth by knowing that not everyone has or can achieve whatever we may have or achieved. And sometimes, unknowingly, we push this sort of attitude in the belief that we are being grateful for what we have. We say 'eat your food, those people in Africa or starving!' Or 'you don't like your feet? Well be glad you aren't the person who doesn't have any legs!'

    Think about that... we are suppose to feel better just because we aren't as bad off as someone else. We are suppose to feel better that we have something of value over someone else. We are suppose to feel better because we are better off than someone else.....
    ...... and this in a world were commercialism, capitalism, and greed rule the day.

    Telling a person 'well be glad you got (this) or (that) because someone else is worse off than you' - is NOT fostering an attitude of humility and gratefulness, it is fostering an attitude of narcissism, egocentricness, and self-centeredness (and not the good kind of self-centeredness). It gives us no desire to help our fellow man because some of us need somebody below us to help us feel better about what we got or don't got. And it certainly doesn't stop from us complaining about the lack of whatever we want or need. If I don't like my large flat feet - please don't tell me about the guy in the wheelchair who has no legs. It certainly doesn't make me feel better, and I don't want to feel better that he has it worse than I do. I want him to have feet and be able to walk and I still want to complain about my own feet. Don't I have that right?

    Anyway.....

    I use to work in a homeless shelter. I remember how I was always questioning these dudes who walked around in the shelter G'up in nice clothes, flashing a few $$, looking nice, some even had cars. I'm thinkin 'this (person) got all this stuff, what the hell he doing in this homeless shelter? You got so much, you should even be here.'

    I ask the same question when, a couple of weeks before my own homelessness, I was eating a free meal in a church that fed the homeless, poor, indigent, and transient. A girl ask me for either a dollar or a bus ticket. Now I needed my tickets, but I was thinking about giving her one but not without question. She was playing on a seemingly new electronic gadget - a celly that music, games, look sleek and nice. I'm thinkin 'if you can afford that, what the hell you need a free ticket for?' I don't know if it's got to do with my sometimes inability to say ‘no’, or the fact that I hope I'm smiled upon when I’m in need, but I gave her a ticket anyway.

    All my questions where answered when I become homeless and stayed in a shelter. Women came up in there with jewels, nice clothes, one even had a fur coat. One of the ladies that become my friend, came up in there with an ESCALADE! One lady was a paralegal, and one a classy well spoken intelligent retired school teacher that didn't seem like she shoulda been there AT ALL. And here they are... among the addicts, alcoholics, young girls, and welfare women. You wouldn't know or understand why they were there until you heard their stories and learned to not only sympathize, but empathize.

    But even in that situation, some folks have to better than someone else. One guy was homeless, and insisted he wasn't like the other homeless people he interacted with, who were alcoholics that dranked their disability checks away, turned away all help, and chose to wallow in their self-pity. No, he was better and those type of homeless people didn't deserve a pot to piss out of. We were all homeless but even then.... well you know some homeless wino has to sit and tell you why is he better than the next homeless wino... why?

    See what I said in the first paragraph.


    I could say that too you know... that I don't personify the other women on welfare, section 8, high school dropout, drug addict, alcoholic, unemployed, or those went through certain struggles... because I'm seemingly intelligent, or well spoken, bright-eyed, smiling, courteous, professional, or whatever. I've certainly been told that enough. But when all is said is done - I'M STILL HERE! I am these other women and these other people and they are me. And if I have been given the ability to appear more intelligent, more capable, more sensible, more professional, more of anything than the women I am and be around - then it is because I am use that ability and figure out how to help those in my sphere who does not present all that. I believe that is one of the reasons I have experienced many of the things I have experienced, and it is not to be better than them, feel superior to them, to put them down, or to tell them to help their durn selves and pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. It was to see their experiences with my own eyes, empathize with it, and guide their way and mine with full knowledge and understanding of what they (and I) have gone through.

    What we are failing to see here - is that we are black, and that we all suffer the effects of slavery, white supremacy, jim crow; and the social, mental, emotional, and psychological effects that come with that. WE ALL SUFFER FROM THAT. I’ve read the threads you are reading that may have contributed to this one and what I see is that so many of us are so caught up in being RIGHT and proving the other WRONG, that we forget our commonality, and our common views on the subject. We forget that the other we want to prove WRONG has a valid concern that we need to address in order to move forward and bring about a solution to whatever problems we are facing. We think ‘Well because I’m the adjunct professor at So-and-So University with contacts here and abroad and I’ve read all these books and know my history back to Abraham, there is nothing your little lowly self can tell me about anything because you don’t speak on my level of knowledge and expertise.’

    Or we have the one that is so set in his ways and limited knowledge that nothing else will ever get through, it’s all about this one thing for him or her.

    If you have something of value, (and I believe every one does) it is to be shared to help your brethren in whatever way possible for you to do that.
    A king can not be a king without his people - and yet some kings figure their people are nothing but disposable subjects to be ruled over and lauded over.
    We have to realize how important everyone is and how they contribute regardless of what level they are on. We all are very inter-dependent on each other no matter how independent we are.

    Ankhur asked about bickering and building. I think bickering has it's place if you are open minded enough to see that. But to parahrase what he said 'there is a difference between an arguement of ideologies and folks simply posting to outdo one another.'
     
  5. Black Squared

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    I don't think I'm "better" than others but I do try to offer solutions to what plagues our people and the problems start when people try to oppose my ideas. I refuse to support/make excuses for negative behavior from our people and some people through their own perception choose to label me, I don't do the labeling and I don't care. I will maintain wanting the BEST for our people and won't accept anymore excuses. Call it what you will, I call it logic and progressive thinking.
     
  6. Ankhur

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    When we look at the homeless situation, we realize that we are not great best or better then a stone or a rock, if we can not take 5 dollars or 5 minutes to impact this horror that many in our community are going through, as victims of an economy that has gone down hill, by corruption and greed.
     
  7. river

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    I am myself and there ain't a soul on this planet, Black or white, who can be me better than I can.

    So there!

    This has been a public service message brought to you by Da River
     
  8. warriorprincess

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    "You aint up on this"

    For some, being better than the next or the ability to show off is the motivation for everything that they do be it,

    acquiring knowledge,
    acquiring people,
    acquiring money, clothes possessions,
    honing a talent,
    honing a skill,
    traveling to exotic places,
    working out,
    Becoming a certain religion
    Eating certain foods

    and the list goes on......

    I think that when the self-worth comes from within, we are more confident in our ability to maintain it no matter who we stand next to.

    I also see that people who are constantly praised for things that they have or do will probably have to work harder at humility than before possessing such. If you see a grounded celebrity, interviewers always ask them how do they remain so. The inquiry is based on the understanding that this is an undertaking considering their position. The same can happen to every day people. Humility is something that may require a bit of effort.
     
  9. Ankhur

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    In a world full of this much pain, misery and poverty, and aduse happening to dark skinned people all over the planet and especially to the global Black community, when one is born Black ,humility is really no biggie.

    When we see the enormous amount of work it will take to help others, one feels very humble in deed for never having enough time or money to do so!
     
  10. MsInterpret

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    I'm no better than the next person. I've gone through what I have gone through...So I can only speak for myself...

    I try and give everyone the respect that they deserve even if I believe that they are wrong.

    We will never learn EVERYTHING...Life is about learning, from birth till death.

    When one attacks someone in a conversation it makes them look ignorant.

    Speaking for myself, if I feel I am being attacked or belittled in a conversation because that other person does not like my view...I won't even bother arguing with them. Ranting and raving will get you no where in my eyes. I don't care how much the other person believes that they are right, if you are doing any of these things; cursing, yelling, bantering, you won't make ONE point to me, other than you aren't worth my time.

    Misery loves company. And some people want you to be miserable with them.

    This is why I haven't joined in some of these threads in awhile. It's because there is this negative vibe and energy I am getting from some of these members. I have a lot of other things and issues that I'm dealing with and I just don't have time to argue with people who are petty.

    Plus, I don't have time to act like a child and constantly be blaming others for what's going on in my life. I'm grown enough to realize some of the things that are either bad or good is mostly because of my actions and choices.

    To me and Elder does NOT make you wise. It just means your older. You gain wisdom from respecting others, respecting yourself, overcoming trials and tribulations and learning from it, able to teach others and also willing to learn from others too, and having patience. AND knowing how to control an argument or debate.

    Once you do that, you are wise my friend...But you still aren't better than anyone.
     
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