Black Spirituality Religion : What Is Will ?

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  1. IssaEl21

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    The Word For '' Will '' In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Is Mashiyya Which Comes From The Root Word Shayaa-A Or Yashaa-A And Means '' By Which One Deliberately Chooses Or Decides Upon A Course Of Actions ; An Instance Of The Exercising Of This Faculty ; A Delibrate Decision Or Concusion ; Choice . '' Will Is That Which Was Given To Kadmon / Zakar / Adam , By THE MOST HIGH , '' Will '' Was That Which Made Kadmon / Zakar / Adam More Knowledgeable Then The Eloheem And The Luciferians . '' Will '' Was Also That Which Made Kadmon / Zakar / Adam Fall In The Eyes Of THE MOST HIGH . In Other Word '' Will '' Is To Do What One Chosses , To Have One's Way . To See Fit To One's Own THINKING . When You Were Created You Were Given 360 Degree Of Knowledge . You Were Created Spiritually On The Fourth Plane . The Mental Plane , Which Is Above The Spiritual Plane . You Had Direct Contact With The Anunnaqi / Eloheem Melchizedek And THE MOST HIGH , You Had 360 Degrees Of Knowledge ( 180 ) Degrees Positive And ( 180 ) Degrees Negative . And You Acquired ''' Will ''
    What Do I Mean When I Say That Kadmon / Zakar / Adam Was Created With 360 Degrees Of Knowledge ? Kadmon / Zakar / Adam And Human Beings Had Knowledge Of The Anunnaqi / Eloheem ( 180 Degrees Of Positive And Of The Devil / Jinn 180 Degrees Of Negative . 360 Degrees Was Represented By The Circle . A Full Circle Is Equal To 360 Degrees And Represents The Infinite . All Things Are Bayna Between The Hands Of THE MOST HIGH . Only He Had The Power To Take A Line And Bend It ( Like The Woman And The Rib ) . And The Continue Bending It Into A Circle . The Beginning Of The Line Is Alif . The End Of The Line A Yaa . The Bringing Together Of The Two Points. Alif And Yaa , Is What Porduced The Infinite . Infinite Has No Ending Nor Beginning . No Distinct Points Of Direction . All Points Are Of The The Same Distance From The Center . To The Line ( Circumference ) Of The Circle And Cannot Be Extended In Any Direction Extreme . Only The Most Hight Knows The Beginning And The End Of The Circle Man Has No Knowledge Of This .
    If You Take That 360 Degree Circle And Cut It In Half , You'll Have 180 Degrees . Or Half Of The Whole . But , It Is Also A Whole , Because It Is A Whole Half . It Is Lets Than A Whole ( 360 Degrees ) . But Within Itself Is A Whole . After THE MOST HIGH Formed The Circle ( Infinite ) . THE MOST HIGH Then formed The Square . The Aquare Is Finite ( Having Boundaries ) . Finite Has Four Points Or Direction And All Points From Center To Perimeter Are Not The Same Distance . Thus The Square . A Perfect Four-Sided Geometric , Is Equal To 360 Degrees . If You Remove One Of The Quarters . You Will Find That It Has Four 90 Degrees Angles . Totaling 360 Degrees , Thus Rendering It A Whole . You Take That Square . The Sum Of Whole Eloheem Total 360 Degrees And Divide It Into Four ( 4 ) Quadrants ( EqualsParts . ) Each Angle Of The Quartered Square Equal 90 Degrees . When Broken Up Into 4 Little Boxes . Each Of These Little Boxes Becomes A Whole And Will Also Equals 360 Degrees , And So On Continuously Breaking Down Into Its Separate Building Blocks , Cells , Atom , Right Down To The Spirit . Upon The Study Of How Man's Nature Is Formulated . We Can Get An OverStanding Of How The Rest Of Creation Came About . As A Square Breaks Down Into Its Separate Building Blocks And Cells , Right Down To The Spirit . We Have The Formation Of Atoms . He Took The Circle And Turned It Inside Out And Placed It Within The Confines Of The Square , By First Separating The Circle Into Four ( 4 ) Equal Parts . The Four Parts . THE MOST HIGH Caused To Merge And Form . Because Both The Square And The Circle Equal The Same Quantity ( 360 Degrees ) . They Both Have The Same Charge What Happen When Two Like Charges Are Put Together . They Push Away From Each Other -- They Repel . But Because Of The Tremendous Force And Pressure Exerted During The Fusion ( A Force That Made Them Act . ) , They Submittted Contrary To Their Natural Act Of Repelling . Two Distinct '' Incomplete '' Square ( Hydrogen Atoms ) Formed . And After Being Subjected To The Intense Command Of The Most High Merged Together . When The '' Incomplete '' Square Merged , They Formed One Single Complete Square . The Center Of Each Square And Each Circle Became As One . If You LQQk Closely , You Will See Every Quarter Part Of The Circle Within The Square . This Was The Helium Atom , One Of The Stepping Stones Of The Building Block Of Life .
     
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    That was a very enlightening discourse Brother Issa!

    Ok Question? If we are created on the 4th plane, "the mental", and we have 360 degrees of knowledge in the form of the circle, why did the infinite change our pattern to Aquare once we enter the earth plane? And how does this all fit into our free wills?

    I'm not quite understanding this process. Would you please break it down a little more for me so I can see the connection clearer?

    Thank you!
     
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    Hotep Ala Antut / Antuk

     
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    Greetings Issa,
    Here' s a little something else about will for the person who asked.
    Many believe that man, by his free will, by something that resides in him, is completely able to independently accept or reject God. But this belief is not supported in scripture. What then will a sinful free will choose? It will choose sin. His free will, then, would never allow Him to reach out to God.
    But we must ask, "What is free will?". Generally it is accepted to mean the freedom to choose according to one's desires. This seems true. But someone is only as free as his nature is free. His will is limited to that which is within his nature. The unregenerate can only choose what his nature allows him to choose. Since he is full of sin, not goodness, his choices can only be sinful.
    In other words, a person can choose to do only that which his nature allows him to do. He cannot simply will to suddenly vanish into thin air or fly like Superman because he is incapable of such feats; his nature limits him. So too with the nature of fallen man. He is severely limited by what he can and cannot do.
    The sinful man:

    cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14).
    is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23).
    does not seek for God (Rom. 3:11).
    is lawless, rebellious, unholy, and profane (1 Tim. 1:9).
    How then can the good desire to want God come out of the unsaved's evil heart? It cannot! How is he able, in his sinful free will, to desire God when his inclinations are always to reject Him? He cannot. How can he, with his blind and sinful will that is deadened, hardened, and enslaved by sin (Rom. 6:20) ever choose God? He cannot! It is impossible. That's why Jesus said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible" (Matthew 19:26)
    But some still maintain that God works on a person and slowly teaches and guides him or her into believing. Others say that there is something in a person's free will that enables him to choose God. They maintain that everyone is equally able to accept or reject. But if they are equally free and equally able, then why don't they all equally accept God, or why don't they all equally choose to reject Him? Why are there variations in choice? Are the variations a result of a tendency that God gave them? But God made them that way. Is it because of their environment? But God put them there. Is it because of some physical inclination? But God gave them their bodies. Is it because of their parents' influence? But God gave them their parents.
    The fact remains, man is not entirely free; he is sinfully free. The unsaved can act freely, but only within the limits of their sinful nature which cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14), does not seek for God (Rom. 3:11), hates God, and is in slavery to sin (Rom. 6:17,20), etc. That is why Jesus said, "No one can come to Me, unless the Father who sent Me draws him..." (John 6:44), and, "No one can come to Me, unless it has been granted him from the Father" (John 6:65). These are not the statements one would hope to find if the sinner were so free to choose to accept or reject God.

    Predestination
    I've laid the foundation: Man is completely a sinner who is incapable of understanding and coming to God and has a sinful free will capable only of rejecting God. Therefore, in order for salvation to occur, God must predestine. It can be no other way. If this is so, then there should be verses supporting it. There are:

    Acts 13:48: And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; AND AS MANY AS HAD BEEN APPOINTED TO ETERNAL LIFE BELIEVED.
    John 1:12-13: But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, WHO WERE BORN NOT OF BLOOD, NOR OF THE WILL OF THE FLESH, NOR OF THE WILL OF MAN, BUT OF GOD.
    Philippians 1:29: FOR TO YOU IT HAS BEEN GRANTED FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, NOT ONLY TO BELIEVE IN HIM, but also to suffer for his sake.
    Romans 8:29-30: FOR WHOM HE FOREKNEW, HE ALSO PREDESTINED to become conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the first-born among many brethren; and whom He predestined, these He also called; and whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
    Ephesians 1:5: HE PREDESTINED US to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will.
    Ephesians 1:11 Also WE HAVE OBTAINED AN INHERITANCE, HAVING BEEN PREDESTINED ACCORDING TO HIS PURPOSE who works all things after the counsel of His will.
    The preceding scriptures clearly show that the Lord is very active in salvation. He did not simply provide the means of salvation, the cross, but He also ensured the application of the blood of Christ through predestination.

    Please consider that it is God who:

    - draws people to Himself (John 6:44,65).
    - creates a clean heart (Psalm 51:10).
    - appoints people to believe (Acts 13:48).
    - works faith in the believer (John 6:28-29).
    - chooses who is to be holy and blameless (Eph. 1:4).
    - chooses us for salvation (2 Thess. 2:13-14).
    - grants the act of believing (Phil. 1:29).
    - grants repentance (2 Tim. 2:24-26).
    - calls according to His purpose (2 Tim. 1:9).
    - causes us to be born again (1 Pet. 1:3).
    - predestines us to salvation (Rom. 8:29-30).
    - predestines us to adoption (Eph. 1:5).
    - predestines us according to His purpose (Eph. 1:11).
    - makes us born again not by our will but by His will (John 1:12-13).
    It is man who:

    - is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9).
    - is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23).
    - loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19).
    - is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12).
    - is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6).
    - is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1).
    - is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3).
    - cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14).
    - is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20).
    How can it be any other way than God's loving predestination to make our salvation not only possible, but also a reality? Left to man, salvation is impossible: "When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, ‘Who then can be saved?' Jesus looked at them and said, ‘With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible'" (Matthew 19:25-26). That is why it must be God who opens the heart: "And a certain woman named Lydia, from the city of Thyatira, a seller of purple fabrics, a worshiper of God, was listening; and the Lord opened her heart to respond to the things spoken by Paul" (Acts 16:14).
    This is what truly glorifies God, that in His infinite mercy He is gracious enough to save those who would always reject Him, always hate Him, and always malign Him. Praise Him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Very interesting perspectives from all who have replied
     
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    Yes, and we all live by the Father's Will.:)

    However, we can go against it, in a manner, for the Father would have that we be saved, by His salvation which He sent in His Holy Lamb, who died for our sins, and was resurrected back to life eternal, which we, ourselves, might have if we believe and have faith, and are true to the Father in our works, fear, and love.

    But men choose to have their own way, instead of following the Way of the Father, and thus at the end, the Father's will shall show to be reward for all believing, and condemnation for all unbelieving.