Black People Politics : What is the Shutdown Really About?

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  1. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    What do the republicans hope to achieve? Obamacare is not a bill they're still debating in Congress. It's a law. The time for negotiation and compromise is over. So what do they mean the prez refuses to compromise? They want to gain control of the senate so they can cut funding for Obamacare but the dems in the senate are sticking to their guns.

    This isn't just about Obamacare. This is about the reps wanting to be Big Brother. Like Meyer Rothchilds said, "Give me control over a nation's currency and I don't care who makes the laws." If the reps can use Obamacare as a red herring to work their way into the senate they will have control over everything.

    A sad day that will be.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/30/government-shutdown-healthcare-spending-analysis
     
  2. Omowale Jabali

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    Well, if they already control the House of Reps. They don't need control of the Senate.

    What is it about? Exactly how it's referenced. In essence, political obstructionism. Trying to leverage public opinion heading into the midterm elections. Rendering Obama's second term a land duck session as much as possible
     
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    True. But remember, the senate controls where the money is spent. The house and the senate together can pass a law but the senate decides if money is to be spent implementing and enforcing that law.

    We have to look beyond the immediate, because, trust me, they are.
     
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    World holds breath as US government shutdown imminent
    Discussion in 'Black People Politics' started by Clyde Coger, Monday at 12:00 PM
    http://destee.com/index.php?threads/world-holds-breath-as-us-government-shutdown-imminent.77976/


    Besides what you know already, there may be some additional facts in the Thread above, river.


     
  5. Omowale Jabali

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    I hear you, and I am looking beyond the immediate. I foresaw this deadlock before the residential reselection process.
     
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    It's really about being willing to injure the country to get their way.

    They're going to try to flip flop and eventually make the Democrats look like they're the ones who are willing to hurt America because they refuse to compromise. Fox news will pick this up, make a mantra of it, and pound the message home. Their constituents, who they're hurting in the process, will view them as saviors if they finally do cave. If they don't, well they're real principled patriots.

    This country really needs a third party.
     
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    They want Obama to resign. For him to take funding from the Health Care Act is for him to say he is no longer running the country, in effect, to resign.
     
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    The House is in control of the money, not the Senate.
     
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    The shutdown is about Africa.

    9/11 is about Africa.

    Obama selected into office about Africa.

    The Global Recession is about Africa.

    Worldwar I about Africa.

    Worldwar II about Africa.

    The MiddleEast crisis is about Africa.

    When we come to realize the high stakes games that are played out in the world politics it will become clear its about resources. The reason the U.S economy is in trouble is because its paper money can no longer kept it afloat as nations around the world are dropping the Dollar. The Dollar has lost its value for many reasons, the first being its not backed any sound value, the second being its too easy to counterfeit and the third the world is just tired of America's dominance. With that in mind resources are the only true currency, which Africa dominates the world in those terms, many places around the world have no gold deposits but mining in Africa hasn't scratched the surface of the amount of gold buried underneath.

    I read years ago from a white scholar woman who said the MiddleEast is a distraction from Africa. And many people who can read a map know the MiddleEast is just the Eastern corner of the African continent. We are living in the last days of fossil fuel whether some want to accept this reality or not. One day you will get in your car and it won't start because there's no gas and gas will either be too expensive or unaffordable to many people. Other forms of fuels are unstable and anti-environment, nuclear energy is dangerous and wind is inconsistent. Solar energy is the energy source of the future and Africa receives more solar radiation than any part of the planet, another reason why Africa is being fought over by a quiet war.

    Pres. Obama alerted Americans towards a green economy and that means renewable, safe energy which is wind and solar. Obama's administration has caused the collapse of two African countries already, Egypt and Libya both toppled by C.I.A initiatives. Bases are being built in Ghana for Afri-com which the U.S Military new version of NATO for Africa. But they aren't there to help the people or stop conflicts but to protect American corporations who are sucking up the resources. Pres. Obama was elected in my opinion to keep public outcry to a minimum while Afri-com objectives are achieved. Islamists fighting now in Nigeria because they're terrorist but Africans who don't want the U.S taking over the resources and expanding bases.

    The shutdown in America is orchestrated confusion by the two parties who appear to be opposing each other but behind closed doors many of the politicians you see fighting each other belong to fraternal brotherhoods sworn to each other. We should stop buying into the staged show and illusion put in front us that is only meant to distract us from our own interest. Who cares if the U.S shutdown because for many African Americans are shut out any way! We should be thinking about getting land so we can grow food and getting an controlling interest in some industry so we can have economic prosperity.
     
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