Black Spirituality Religion : What is the reason for all this misery, depression and tensions? How to remove them

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  1. dattaswami1

    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Let Me answer your question straight with a simple example
    You have caught a hot iron rod with your hand and you are weeping
    You are asking Me to remove the heat from the rod and give you happiness
    For this you are constantly praying the Lord to use His special power.
    I have to laugh at this situation because the easiest solution is to remove
    Your hand from the rod to be happy, which you are not doing at all
    You cannot get rid of your attachment to the rod, but you pray the Lord
    To cool the rod using His Maya, is this prayer justified in any way?

    Why don’t you get detached from your family bonds and be happy?
    The hand with which you have caught your family members is your mind
    You detach your mind from the bonds of your family members
    And be peaceful always and there is no need of praying the Lord for this
    When the solution is in your hand why do you ask the Lord for it?
    When the solution is out of your hands there may be justice in asking the Lord
    In the first stage you detach your mind from them and be worry less
    In course of time when your detachment by mind becomes complete
    You will spontaneously leave your duties also and attain bliss

    The detachment from the family comes by your attachment with the Lord
    As the bond with the Lord becomes more and more strong, your family bonds
    Become weaker and weaker and finally all the bonds disappear
    In this state you are left over only with the bond with the Lord
    This state is called “Eka Bhakthih” in Gita or the single pointed devotion
    Devotion means love and this is related to the plane of mind
    As the faculty of intelligence becomes more and more sharp
    By the knowledge preached by the Lord, the devotion to Lord

    Becomes more and more strong, thus knowledge is acting as
    Both fertilizer as well as pesticide on both the sides simultaneously
    It acts as a fertilizer for the bond with the Lord, which is like a plant
    The plant grows slowly and becomes a huge tree by this fertilizer
    The family bonds are like the insects that attack this devotion plant
    For those insects this divine knowledge acts as a pesticide also
    The knowledge is also the generating factor like the water for the seed
    Only by the knowledge of the Lord, the devotion is generated
    Devotion is the love or attraction towards the Lord to attain Him
    It ends in agony or Vedana as told by Ramanuja, thus knowledge is
    The generating factor, the fertilizer and the pesticide simultaneously
     
  2. Keita Kenyatta

    Keita Kenyatta going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    PLEASE READ MY RESPONSE TO YOUR FIRST POST SINCE I AM IN DISAGREEMENT WITH THIS ONE TO A DEGREE.
     
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    Monetary going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    This makes more sense now that I've read the first thread you created. NEVERTHELESS, I do not agree at this point with the first thread or this thread.

    Actually, these two threads could have been combined.

    Where are you getting this information?
     
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    Keita Kenyatta going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    DO NOT GET ME WRONG, I HAVE STUDIED ALL THE YOGAS AND SYSTEMS OF SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT FROM THE VEDAS TO JAINISM, UPANISHADS, VASUDEVA, SAMKHYA, BHAGAVAD GITA, TO PANTAJALI, TO SHAVISM DOWN TO SHINTOISM...and I'm simply saying that they have their value,,,but not for all people. These systems were not intended for African people per se and yet were largely influenced and created by African people.

    When the dispersion and outright slaughter of the priest kings began in Kemet, they scattered to the four winds for safety...and each carried with them what they knew...with neigther having the whole of the system. They therefore made adaptations of what was originally African and applied it to the people they were among.
     
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    Moorfius Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The Reason is Clear

    Hotep

    No matter how greatly elaborated, confusion is confusion. There are volumes and volumes of confused distorted writings by twisted pathologicaly insane, white suprimest Europians in every library in the world. If one is not centered in his or her Origens, there is no way to sift through the trash to find the truth. The so-called white scientist have what they call hypothisis, meaning "This is good enough until one of my white brothers comes up with something better". It is not hard to find any old book and the information in it is "Out-Dated", but they keep the book on the shelves because it looks nice or it was authored by some famous "White-Raceist" they want every one to remember, such as King James Steward of England. Any one who take the time to rescerch this "King" of England who is one of those responcible for the Major problems All Afrikans have today, will know the truth about how and why this book was commisioned by him only to control the (Subjects) masses.
    Afrikans were in Chattle-Slavery at this time in history, not even allowd to "Read", the penalty was "Death". Now today, the last vestage of the "Slave-System" is that Book and others like it, "All" concocted by Europians, to support "White-Suprimicy" and have absolute control over the "Masses" or "Crowd-Control". Any one who takes a very carful study and do deep rescerch will know that "All" of the Prophets were "Afrikan" with out exception. Ask your self, why does the white "Race" control what you worship?? We Afrikans today care more about what the Slave-Master gave us after they took off the "Physical-Chains" and left the chains on our "Brains", holding on to the so-called White Mans Book of his own makeing and given to people of color in general and Afrikans in particuler to control them. The Reason is Clear. We don't have to be afraid to let the Masa's ideas go and except our own Afrikan Spirituality that is "Old as the Earth itself".

    Ase`
    http://www.nbufront.org/html/FRONTalView/ArticlesPapers/Hotep_DWT.html
     
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    To remove tension and depression, one must have faith in the one who died for our sins by the sacrifice of His body on the tree. And one must show true belief in the resurrection of the Holy Anointed Son from the dead to life eternal. With faith, belief, and works, with keeping the commandments, one will have eternal life in the Father and the Son, so one will never be brought as low as one could truly be by denying the faith. Though one may feel low, being brought up by the Father will surely heal you.
     
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    What do you mean by works?
     
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    Works in faith; do as the Son did, by His perfect examples, and do as the Father guides you to do. Faithful works; helping brothers and sisters, giving even when you might not have enough, showing patience, and so on.
     
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    IMHO the "so on" is very important!

    The reasons for all the misery and tensions in this ipad age has to do with very real Satanists in positions of power globally who, have unleashed demons and all sorts of other multidimensional entities, that feed on fear, anger and negativity in all forms.
    Therefore as you say it is important to give and share but also silently pray from the heart and send out positive vibrations to ones community and the world from time to time and ones local environment wherever one happens to be. Also to forgive from the heart all of those who we have felt offended by, and pray for them as well.
     
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    Exactly.:)
     
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