Black People Politics : What is the origin of Democracy - who was it first conceived by?

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  1. Destee

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    Peace and Blessings Family,

    FutureVerse prompted this thread by posting the following in the Ghana Election Thread :



    I then had the following questions / comments :

    Why do you think this modern democracy in Africa is bad?

    Was there a previous form of democracy in Africa, that was good?

    The idea that WESTERN democracy is different from democracy in general is interesting.

    But bigger than even the above, i'd like to know what is the origin of democracy, who was it conceived by?

    In my mind when i hear democracy i think of a european concept, but is that true?

    Were europeans the first to conceive the concept of democracy, or should another people be credited for it?

    Looking forward to this discussion.

    Thanks in advance Family.

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  2. Kemetstry

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    Greece, specifically Athens is generally given credit for democracy





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    From what I have read and understand a great many societies across the whole world had democracies, before the white man was born.

    People had to work together to survive. Though one person could lead in one aspect and not in an other. chiefs did not have total control, they could not force you to fight, if it was not within you to do so. Most of Africa, Asia and the new world lived like this.
     
  4. Shikamaru

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    There is a difference between direct democracy and representative democracy.

    Athenian democracy is the earliest, well-documented democracy in European history.

    Democracy, as a word, is composed from the Greek words 'demos' meaning people and 'kratos' meaning power.

    Elites tend to hate and despise democracy preferring a republic (which allows centralization of political power into the hands of particular classes with the appearance of "rule by consent of the governed".

    You can see one set of elites reason concerning the pitfalls of democracy in Federalist Papers #10 and #14.

    Keep in mind the Federalist were actually Nationalists.
     
  5. Shikamaru

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    ANY form of governance over a territory, whatever label you care to place on it, is an oligarchy.

    My opinion, of course ....
     
  6. Omowale Jabali

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    Brother Shikamaru mentioned Athenian democracy. Solon is often credited as laying the foundation of Athenian democracy.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solon
    Solon - Wikipedia
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    From my research, Solon was a student in ancient Egypt (Kamit).

    However, I have found no evidence that the form of governance in ancient Kamit was "democratic".


    Another person often mention in this context is Pericles.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pericles
    Pericles - Wikipedia
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  7. Shikamaru

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    Solon was lawgiver .... as was Draco before him.
     
  8. Omowale Jabali

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    http://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/biography/solon.htm
    Solon: The Lawmaker of Athens by Plutarch
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    Solon was taught by the Priests at Sais. He was told the stories of "Atlantis". It is possible that the "Atlanteans" had a 'democratic' form of government. I am not sure if the specific form of government at Sais was considered 'democratic'.
     
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  10. Shikamaru

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    If one is going to discuss forms of government of a state, perhaps it behooves to talk about the state as well as to its nature and attributes.
     
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