Black People : what is life really about?

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  1. jamesfrmphilly

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    somebody has told us, all of us, that life is about sex. humpin, humpin, humpin.
    from the neocon to the nationalist, we all out there humpin away.

    others of us feel that life is about that good food. munch, munch, munch.
    others are wrapped up in music. hiphop is not just music, hiphop is a way of life.

    in other words, all are short term satisfaction of the senses. we are sensualists.

    i know that i have spent my life as a sensualist. perhaps that was a mistake.
    the short term satisfaction of the senses, of the animal desires may be a waste of time. it may be a trick.

    maybe it diverts us from using our minds to think about our situation.

    maybe blackman was not meant to be a creature ruled by his gonads.

    satisfaction of the senses is a lot of fun but at the end of the day it can leave you with nothing but a bad aftertaste.
    we need to place our minds firmly in control of our gonads.
    we need to think about what we do.

    think.
     
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    Life is about death

    You are born to die period

    The point of life is to help heal and inspire while one is here,
    and provide mind boggling orgasms to the opposite sex

    IMHO
     
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    we need to push back from the table a bit....

    while sex is a lot of fun, i am arguing that we ought to downgrade the importance that we place on it.
    likewise food and all other things of the senses.

    right now black people are too hung up on satisfying short term sensual desires.
     
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    Life is the time span from birth to death. Our individual life’s are our particular experiences and what we choose to give value to.
    Some one asked me, what was the meaning of live? My answer was, what ever meaning you give it. Is there a purpose to our life? That too is a matter of choice, usually. What meaning, purpose, value we give or have for our life is what we choose to cherish or give value to.

    Usually it’s our cultures that give value, purpose and meaning to our life’s. But we hold the ultimate goals for ourselves. I guess this is why some may call themselves Gods.

    AXE!
     
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    The point of life is to help heal and inspire while one is here,


    there were 2 lines there one for the left hand and one for the right,

    can you pick up something heavy with one hand or 2?

    the lines

    were to find out where folks focus is
     
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    When folks get old the senses loose value, as well as ones desires for progress, liberation, or altruism.

    When one no longer seeks to please oneself, one no longer seeks to help, please, heal or inspire others.

    The internal spirit of joy sees joy in the blessing of the senses,

    good vegan gourmet cuisine, that is never boring and excites the palate

    good spritualy inspiring music that reminds one of the realm before birth

    a culturaly significant and relevant living space expressing the glory of ones lost or stolen culture
    and a healthy and rejuvenating sex life, that leads to sacred sexuality

    as well as the cessation of the 5 senses and the elevation of the 6th 7th and 8th, through community service, and meditation.

    But what encurs the continuation of enslavement is the prison in which one is free but ones senses are enslaved to tastes and vibrations alien to ones ethnicity.
    therefore the senses have only known an illusion of pleasure and no real pleasure at all
    Ascetic and Stoicic, living was never part of any African culture I am familiar with.
     
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    sages have always practiced control.....

    this is unmitigated BS.

    i am suggesting that we bring our sensuality under control. that is far from ascetic.
     
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    Hedonisim..

    Hey James! How ya been...
    I think we are all hedonists in denial..
    we justify whatever makes us happy..
    whatever gives us pleasure.
    ideally still to net as much pleasure from life as possible and nix the sorrow and pain.
    People justify all sorts of things that when asked the honest answer to..
    they "just wanted to"
    pleasure controls us in a great deal.. it dosent have to be humpin and pumpin.. it could be as simple as a person who is obsessed with going to church because it gives them great pleasure.. makes them feel good.
    it could be the person who enjoys rich foods even though they have diabetes.. or is overweight.
    life is about pleasure.. what pleases us..
    some women derive pleasure from thier children growing up and watching them change..
    whatever your kick..
    hedonism:whip::whip: is it!
     
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    "But what encurs the continuation of enslavement is the prison in which one is free but ones senses are enslaved to tastes and vibrations alien to ones ethnicity.

    therefore the senses have only known an illusion of pleasure and no real pleasure at all"



    Ankhur,
    What do you mean by the comments above? I know of no one who is prevented from seeking pleasure out side their ethnicity!
     
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    I know this is not Afrikan thought, but I think it might be interesting!

    The basic idea behind hedonistic thought is that pleasure is the only thing that is good for a person. This is often used as a justification for evaluating actions in terms of how much pleasure and how little pain (i.e. suffering) they produce. In very simple terms, a hedonist strives to maximize this net pleasure (pleasure minus pain).

    Classic schools of antiquity
    Democritus seems to be the earliest philosopher on record to have categorically embraced a hedonistic philosophy; he called the supreme goal of life "contentment" or "cheerfulness", claiming that "joy and sorrow are the distinguishing mark of things beneficial and harmful"

    The Cyrenaic school
    The Cyrenaics were an ultra-hedonist Greek school of philosophy founded in the 4th century BC, supposedly by Aristippus of Cyrene, although many of the principles of the school are believed to have been formalized by his grandson of the same name, Aristippus the Younger. The school was so called after Cyrene, the birthplace of Aristippus. It was one of the earliest Socratic schools. The Cyrenaics taught that the only intrinsic good is pleasure, which meant not just the absence of pain, but positively enjoyable sensations. Of these, momentary pleasures, especially physical ones, are stronger than those of anticipation or memory. They did, however, recognize the value of social obligation, and that pleasure could be gained from altruism. The school died out within a century, and was replaced by the more sophisticated philosophy of Epicureanism.

    Epicureanism is a system of philosophy based upon the teachings of Epicurus (c. 341–c. 270 BC), founded around 307 BC. Epicurus was an atomic materialist, following in the steps of Democritus. His materialism led him to a general attack on superstition and divine intervention. Following Aristippus—about whom very little is known—Epicurus believed that the greatest good was to seek modest pleasures in order to attain a state of tranquility and freedom from fear (ataraxia) as well as absence of bodily pain (aponia) through knowledge of the workings of the world and the limits of our desires. The combination of these two states is supposed to constitute happiness in its highest form. Although Epicureanism is a form of hedonism, insofar as it declares pleasure as the sole intrinsic good, its conception of absence of pain as the greatest pleasure and its advocacy of a simple life make it different from "hedonism" as it is commonly understood.
    In the Epicurean view, the highest pleasure (tranquility and freedom from fear) was obtained by knowledge, friendship and living a virtuous and temperate life. He lauded the enjoyment of simple pleasures, by which he meant abstaining from bodily desires, such as sex and appetites, verging on asceticism. He argued that when eating, one should not eat too richly, for it could lead to dissatisfaction later, such as the grim realization that one could not afford such delicacies in the future. Likewise, sex could lead to increased lust and dissatisfaction with the sexual partner. Epicurus did not articulate a broad system of social ethics that has survived.
    Epicureanism was originally a challenge to Platonism, though later it became the main opponent of Stoicism. Epicurus and his followers shunned politics. After the death of Epicurus, his school was headed by Hermarchus; later many Epicurean societies flourished in the Late Hellenistic era and during the Roman era.
     
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