Black Christians : What Is A Real Man?

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  1. cherryblossom

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    What Is A Real Man?
    Copyright 2008 by The Joshua Club


    "The image of a real man is confused in our society. There are a lot of mixed messages in the world. Men themselves often don't have a clear idea of who they are and who they should be. TV comedies often show men or husbands as bumbling fools. The opposite image is the tough, independent man rebelling at authority and destroying all his enemies in an orgy of blood. A look around at society shows men who dress like women, like long female-style hair, wear female jewelry, and in general have no idea that men and women are different other than in their sexual organs. Of course, much "romance" writing and pornographic material reduce man to a single-minded sex crazy maniac.

    So what is a real man? Will the real man please stand up. In order to learn what a real man should be like we will have to look at the purpose for which he was created and at the examples provided in Scripture. There have only been two perfect men in the history of the world: Adam and Jesus Christ. Of course, Adam did not last long - probably about 24 hours.

    We need to know a couple of things about mankind in general [male and female] before we look specifically at the role of a man. Genesis 1:27-31 deals with the creation of Adam and Eve as a unit. Genesis 2 gives the details about how Adam and Eve were specifically created.

    What we need to note in Genesis 1 is that both Adam and Eve are stated to be created in the image of God [vs. 27]. Individually and as a unit they were created to reflect the image of God. Both of them were blessed and BOTH of them were given dominion over the earth. Dominion is the right to rule [under God], to manage, to develop, to harness. The earth with all its creatures were given to them to manage and develop to its full potential under the direction of God.

    The command to have dominion has been perverted by sin into the lust to dominate. Godly dominion is developing and managing things to their greatest potential for the benefit of all. Domination is the wanton destruction and brutal control over all things for personal benefit. It is important to note that neither Adam nor Eve was given dominion over each other or over the future human race. They were to work as partners to fulfill God's command. Although some responsibility-avoiding Christians disagree, this command to have dominion over the earth has never been withdrawn. It has been greatly complicated by sin, but it is still the original purpose and drive for mankind.

    After the summary of the creation of mankind in Genesis 1, we are given the details in Genesis 2 and begin to see the different purposes in male and female. Here is where we will start to see the purpose of a man and who he is.

    With all the rest of creation, God spoke and it was so. It was different with man. God took special care to form man from the dust of the earth. This creating of the crowning achievement of creation took time. Not that God could not have done it in a split second, but the investing of time showed value. Man was more valuable than the rest of creation. He was made of the dust so that he would be humble and could identify with that with which he was to rule over. On the other hand, he had the breath of God in him. His soul reached to heaven. He was of the earth, but made for the heavens. Unlike the rest of creation, he has not limited to the physical realm. His soul and spirit could commune with God in the spiritual realm.

    Next we see that man's God-given purpose is to work. It was stated even before man was created [vs. 5] that work was his purpose. Work is not part of the curse. Hard, difficult, frustrating work is a result of the curse, but work itself is a blessing. One of the primarily focuses in a man's life is his work. He wants to feel happy and fulfilled in his job. A job is much more than a paycheck. A man needs to feel that he is accomplishing something worthwhile. A meaningless or constantly frustrating job breaks his spirit. A man in such a job [if he cannot find another one] should look for hobbies or volunteer work that can give him a sense of accomplishment and purpose. Work is one of the driving forces in a man. This is one reason why men, when they retire, if they do not have something productive to do or goals to accomplish often give up on life.

    Adam received God's commands and was responsible to carry them out. A man is to study the Word of God to know what God says and how to correctly apply it in his life and in the world around him. A man is to be a spiritual leader in very practical ways. Adam had to obey. He was not independent. He needed to depend on God, learn from Him, and obey Him. Knowledge was not to be only theory, it has practical - life and death - implications. The Word of God brings life, knowing and correctly applying it are life and death activities.

    Man was created first. He had the responsibility of passing on the knowledge given to him by God. He was to teach Eve and later his children. True, everyone [male and female] is responsible for knowing God and studying the Word of God for themselves, but man also has the additional responsibility of training and teaching in which his wife is to be a helper.

    Adam had to work before he was given a wife. He had to prove that he was a responsible man, able and willing to obey God as well as provide for his wife. A real man never considers marriage until he is able to provide spiritual leadership for his wife, provide for her physical necessities, and provide for her emotional needs.

    Adam recognized Eve as a part of himself to be treasured. She, too, was a special creation of God equal in value to himself. Adam recognized that he was no longer a single individual but had been united to his wife as a single unit.

    What have we learned about who man is and what his purpose is?

    1. Man is a special, valuable creation. As such he is not to be down-graded, insulted, or laughed at. He is in the image of God, to insult or misrepresent him is to hurl a insult at God. The image of God is, of course, greatly marred by sin but the redeemed man can hold his head high as he is in the process of being restored to true manhood.

    2. Man is created to have fellowship with God. He will never discover who he is, define his purpose, or reach his destiny outside of God. The unredeemed man can never be a real man in the fullest sense of the word. However, this does not mean he is to be treated with disrespect because he is still created in the image of God.

    3. Man is made to work. No matter what kind of job it is, he needs to feel that he is accomplishing something worthwhile. A job that one man may feel bored with may thrill another man. We are all different, but we all need to work. Constant welfare is one of the most effective ways to destroy a man.

    4. Man is made to know God, His Word, and correctly apply it in the world around Him.

    5. A man has the responsibility to teach, train, and guide those under his authority into the ways of God.

    6. A man works to prove he can provide the basic leadership, physical, and emotional needs of his wife. He never expects or accepts - even if offered - any sexual activity until he has proved himself and entered into a marriage covenant. He wants to lay a solid foundation for their future life although it may mean many sacrifices in the present....."

    http://www.free-bible-study-lessons.com/real-man.html
     
  2. cherryblossom

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    A Godly Man

    Psalm 119:33-40

    We have been studying the longest book of the Bible on Sunday evenings. It is the 119th Psalm. It is divided into twenty-two sections of eight verses each. Nearly every verse of this psalm makes reference to the Word of God.

    Tonight we come to the fifth section. In this segment of the Psalm we have four pictures of a godly man. What makes a godly man? How do we identify a person who is godly? Let's look to this section of the Psalm and see what kind of person we would consider to be godly.

    I. Sojourner (119:33-34)

    Life is a journey, and as believers we are wanderers in this world.
    Like Abraham we are a stranger and sojourner on the earth.
    The old song says, "This world is not my home, I'm just passing through."
    As travelers, we need directions.
    Here the psalmist is seen asking God to guide him on his way, and he promises to follow God's directions:
    A. Faithfully (119:33)

    1. He sees God's Word as a path to be followed, a sure way through the wilderness.

    a. It is not much use asking directions if we don't remember them when they are given or if we don't follow them when we get them.

    b. Like most men. I hate stopping to ask directions when driving.

    c. What usually happens is that after driving around in circles, I will finally give in.

    d. Then when I get the directions, I have trouble remembering them, because I didn't take the time to write them down.

    2. We need guidance.

    3. We need to pay attention to the Lord's leading and follow it carefully.

    4. Even though sometimes the Lord's leading seems contrary to what our own thoughts on the matter might be.

    5. God does not promise us an easy path to Heaven, but He does promise us a safe one.

    6. So the psalmist prays, "Teach me the way of Thy statutes."

    a. Not just His statutes, but the way of His statutes.

    b. He is determined to follow that way faithfully no matter how difficult the road.

    c. He is a sojourner in a hostile world and needs God's leading home.

    B. He also promises to follow God's directions fully (119:34)

    1. Understanding is better than knowledge.

    a. A man can fill his head full of knowledge and still have no real understanding of what he is doing.

    b. Here is knowledge: "The square of the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares of the two sides containing the right angle."

    c. In high school geometry I had to get before the class and prove that.

    d. But there are many carpenters who know that a 3/4/5/ triangle is a good way to make a square angle, but do not understand why.

    e. In college I worked with a fellow student and we put in concrete driveways, patios, and sidewalks.

    f. I learned that a yard of concrete will cover an area approximately 20' x 4' at 4" thick.

    g. I was challenged on that one day, and had to sit down and prove that it was true.

    h. I had the knowledge, but not the understanding.

    2. We have knowledge of God available to us by reading the Bible.

    3. But that does not mean we understand biblical principles.

    4. However, meditation on God's Word will give us understanding.

    a. Behind all God's commands are two goals God has in mind.

    b. One has to do with our good-God never has anything else in mind for us than that.

    c. The other is His glory, God always acts in ways that reflect His glory.

    d. When we have understanding of God's Word, we will follow His direction faithfully and completely.

    II. Soldier (119:35-36)

    Life is not only a journey, it is a battle.
    The psalmist realized that if he was to keep his life in line with God's Word there would be a struggle.
    A. The Discipline Needed (119:35)

    1. Imagine having to ask God to make us to do something we love doing.

    2. We do not have to make a child eat ice cream! We might have to make him eat spinach or parsnips but we have trouble keeping them away from the cookie jar.

    3. We might have to make them practice their piano lessons, but we won't have to force him to run and fetch our wallet when we get ready to give them their allowance.

    4. So why must we be made to go in the path that we delight in?

    a. We are not one person but two.

    b. There is "the old man" and there is "the new man."

    c. Note: Romans 7:22-23

    d. The new man loves the path of God's commandments; the old man doesn't, so the fight is on.

    e. As a result we tend to swing back or and forth like a pendulum.

    5. The psalmist says, "Lord, I need a discipline. higher than anything I possess. I need You to make me to go in the path of Your commandments."

    6. That is the mark of a true believer.

    7. That is the difference between the prodigal's going-away petition and his coming-home petition: "Father, give me," and "Father, make me."

    8. The psalmist wanted God to make him obedient.

    B. The Desire Needed (119:36)

    1. The psalmist has just told us that he delights in God's law.

    2. But he needs that to be reinforced and strengthened. Incline means to establish a pattern; a predictable pattern; be programed; to be habitual. Covetousness means want without need; it is our natural inclination.

    III. Servant (119:37-38)

    A. A Discerning Servant (v37)

    One law of spiritual victory we need to learn is to look the other way. A great deal of temptation comes to us through our eyes. Sinful things have great attraction for us. The song and advertising jingle, "Just one look…that's all it took". That is why the psalmist wanted his eyes to be controlled. 'Quicken thou me' He was asking God to make him alive to His way. He wanted inner strength to keep his eye on the Master.

    B. A Devoted Servant (119:38)

    This is a healthy master-servant relationship.

    The servant must stand in awe of his master, must hold him in respect, must measure the distance between them. There are at least three ways we can read the Bible.

    There are those who read it and forsake it…rebelling against God's Word. There are those who read it and forget it…they simply allow it to be crowded out of their lives. Then there are those who read it and fear it… It gets a hold on them. The psalmist takes his stand with those who fear God's Word, with those who have healthy respect for it.

    IV. Saint (119:39-40)

    A. God's Word Will Make Him Good (39)

    The word reproach means "scorn" or "contempt." He wanted to be good; he wanted the goodness of the Word of God to become evident in his life. God never asks us to do anything wrong, anything bad, anything not good. God's commandments are good because He is good. His commandments are for our good, and further, they are designed to make us good.

    B. God's Word will also make him godly (40)

    The psalmist did not want merely to be good, he wanted to be like God Himself. He longed after God's precepts, longed to live the kind of life set forth in God's Word. We can only become godly, by living in obedience to His Word. When we live in His Word, we are living in His righteousness.

    What are we to be if we are to be godly? We are to be like a:

    Sojourner who needs direction from the Word.
    Soldier who battles to keep his life in line with the Word.
    Servant who seeks to serve the God by obedience to the Word.
    Saint who is empowered to live righteously by the Word.

    http://www.brandonweb.com/gbt/sermonpages/psalms43.htm
     
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    What is a...Real Man / Real Woman?

    MA`AT HOTEP

    In the beginning..."I am because We are and We are because I am" (.)
    We have been grossly mis guided...grossly mis-informed and lied to about every thing concerning our selves. This is the reason we are Lost!

    There is no redeeming value in what we have been taught what so ever...and as long as we continue to follow, worship and have Faith and Belief in things that were only indoctrinated into our collective black minds only after we were brain washed first during Slavery...then we will continue to be lost with no hope what so ever...as we have been doing for 500 years.

    We have to ask ourself today as grown men and woman...who am I? How can any one know a thing...if he or she don't know who he or she is? You can't know a thing until you know your self...first! There are no exceptions and the producers who has made you the Agent of theirs knows this better than you do.

    There are millions of libraries across the U.S. and the world that are nothing more than fancy beautifully covered concoctions of Lies that only work to serve the ones who made them...and We must know by now that they are not from any G-d. Then who are they that controls your mind and are responsible for your being Spiritually Dead with out you even knowing that this is the Case?

    In the Beginning of time the Creator gave us everything that We needed...but we today have somehow lost every thing that made us what we are suppose to be...and that is Real Men and Real Women. We have lost this "Wisdom" of the ages today and think that we can just go to some western school of thought and come out with some new methods of what ever is politically correct and that is going to make a difference?!

    It will not and can not happen...you will get paid for your PHD...and our people will continue to Suffer and die because there is no Spiritual substance in those things that leave provisions for others to continue and be Oppressed. We can not make up our own Rules in place of the "Code" for human "Behavior" that was given to us by the Creator in the beginning of Time.

    Today we are lost when we have to ask the questions...what is a real man and what is a real woman...when the Black...woman is the First every thing to every child born on this planet...who is the first teacher who teaches the boy child and the girl child every thing they don't know today that produces the question of what "Is"...with no possible why of ever getting a real answer under these conditions that will only continue the system of white supremacy.

    When a Man / Woman knows self...they will know the answer to the above question in deed, action and Spirituality / Culture. Prepare yourself for a life time of learning the Self...for no matter how long you live...you always keep learning something more of the all that is your universal / self.

    Ase`
     
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    A Spirit-filled Marriage
    by Coy Wylie
    Text: Ephesians 5:22–23
    Topic: What is needed to have a Spirit-filled marriage
    Big Idea: Both women and men have a spiritual role to play in marriage: women, to submit; men, to love.

    Introduction
    Illustration: John Maxwell writes a humorous article about what men expect and get in a wife.
    Illustration: A New England tombstone allows a wife to have the last word.
    God’s description of an ideal marriage is this: Wives are to submit to their husbands; husbands are to love their wives.
    For wives, we must first understand the meaning of submission
    Submit means “to yield to authority.”
    Women’s being subject to their husbands is not popular.
    People misconceive submission as a husband being “master of his domain,” while his wife does all the work.
    - Illustration: The honeymooning bride wants to act like they’ve been married for years, so the groom has her carry the luggage.
    All believers are to be “submitting to one another.”
    God has ordered the family so that the husband has one role, the wife another.
    A wife doesn’t submit to every man, just to her husband.
    For wives, we must understand the method for submission
    The husband is head of the wife, head over his household.
    The order of authority is rooted in creation.
    - 1 Corinthians 11:3
    The order of authority is rooted in redemption.
    For wives, we must understand the model for submission
    Wives submit just as the church is subject to Christ.
    The church’s relationship to Christ is not dehumanizing or demeaning.
    “In everything” does not mean a husband can make his wife violate Scripture.
    We must apply the principle of submission
    The greatest enemy in submission is self.
    The greatest aid in submission is the Holy Spirit.
    The greatest test in submission is following through.
    - Illustration: A man slides down a too-short rope in a well, tires, and finally drops only three more inches.
    The greatest fear in submission is pain.
    The greatest joy in submission is surrender to God.
    - Illustration: Linda Dillow shares a story of a woman who trusted what God would do with her errant husband.
    - Illustration: Linda Dillow quotes Alan Redpath about how whatever touches us has first gone past God and Christ.
    A husband’s love is a spiritual love
    Men are the head of their household; God has laid on them a mantle of authority.
    - John19:11; Luke 12:48
    Wives are gifts from God.
    - They are gifts for companionship: Genesis 2:18.
    - They are gifts for propagation: Genesis 1:28.
    - They are gifts for fulfillment: 1 Cor.7:1–3.
    - There is a spiritual reason: that we might exemplify the love of Christ.
    Illustration: Jesus is the “copybook” for all husbands.
    1 Peter 3:7
    A husband’s love is a sacrificial love
    Jesus loved the church sacrificially; he “gave himself for her.”
    A husband should give all for his wife, as Christ gave all for the church.
    A husband should pray for his wife, as Christ prayed for the church
    - John 17:20–21
    A husband should be attentive to his wife, as Christ is attentive to the church.
    A husband should be faithful to his wife, as Christ is to the church.
    A husband’s love is a sanctifying love
    A Christian woman grows in grace and becomes spiritually mature.
    A husband plays a major role by example in his wife’s spiritual maturity.
    A husband’s love is a satisfying love
    The Golden Rule of matrimony is for a husband to love his wife as himself.
    - Ephesians 5:29, 33
    When a husband blesses, edifies, judges, or criticizes his wife, he does those things to himself.

    http://www.preachingtodaysermons.com/wycoyspma.html
     
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    The Marks of Manhood

    by Dr. Albert Mohler

    When does a boy become a man? The answer to this must go far beyond biology and chronological age. As defined in the Bible, manhood is a functional reality, demonstrated in a man's fulfillment of responsibility and leadership.

    With this in mind, let me suggest thirteen marks of biblical manhood. The achievement of these vital qualities marks the emergence of a man who will demonstrate true biblical masculinity.

    1. Spiritual maturity sufficient to lead a wife and children.

    The Bible is clear about a man's responsibility to exercise spiritual maturity and spiritual leadership. Of course, this spiritual maturity takes time to develop, and it is a gift of the Holy Spirit working within the life of the believer. The disciplines of the Christian life, including prayer and serious Bible study, are among the means God uses to mold a boy into a man and to bring spiritual maturity into the life of one who is charged to lead a wife and family.

    This spiritual leadership is central to the Christian vision of marriage and family life. A man's spiritual leadership is not a matter of dictatorial power, but of firm and credible spiritual leadership and influence. A man must be ready to lead his wife and his children in a way that will honor God, demonstrate godliness, inculcate Christian character and lead his family to desire Christ and to seek God's glory.

    Spiritual maturity is a mark of true Christian manhood, and a spiritually immature man is, in at least this crucial sense, spiritually just a boy.

    2. Personal maturity sufficient to be a responsible husband and father.

    .....

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    It was a truly humbling moment in reading this thread. There were many great revelations via the scriptures that reminds me of my role in raising a son, as well as his father. If there were more godly men, not just by label, but true godly men..what a difference we would see in our families..communities as a whole. Thank you cherryblossom for sharing God's wisdom..I pray is edifies someone to complete understanding and action.
     
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    I'm gonna play devil's advocate...

    So you are saying only men of God can be considered "real men"? Everyone else is not?
     
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    "There have only been two perfect men in the history of the world:"


    I am a man, even with all my imperfections. There are many types of men, as well as women. They come in so many different flavors.

    What is a real man?

    I guess it depends on who your talking to. I would start with are they a man of their word. Oh, there is no perfection on this planet, unless you are talking about a woman's body.(my bias)
     
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    Just like my Father!

    My two cents worth...men were created in the image of their creator and of course everyone has different beliefs as to who that is...in keeping with the theme of this thread..if your belief is that God is your maker, than a real man would be one who is an example of his father. Otherwise, he is not walking according to the purpose for which he was created.
     
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