Black Christians : WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE ADAM & EVE?

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    The Book of REVELATION gives an incredible view to this question. Specifically Chapter 12 reveals that at some point in time there was a great conflict that led to war. And even though this conflict was written about in other parts of the Bible, it was John the Revelator that really opened the door to a deeper view of a distant past. As he also described in other aspects of his vision, his account of this GREAT WAR was due to him looking into some type of vacuum. He was made to see into A SEAL, some type of TUBE, like a tele-VISION and an of a distant time period:

    And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,...and the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: He was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. REVELATION 12:7-9.

    So at some remote time, there beings that came from some other realm to be on this planet according to what John wrote that he saw from his vision. Would there be any scientific proof that could confirm his vision? Furthermore John goes on to write more of what he witnessed in this vision:

    And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: For the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night...Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and for the sea! For the Devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he bath but a short time. REVELATION 12:10-12.

    It was not until after research did I consider the huge time period that captures this writing did I also come to realize that John opened the door to a deep mystery. He spoke about witnessing many beings from another realm and fallen angels. Some of these fallen angels were not all in agreement with the adversary!

    The phrase 'Woe to the inhabitants in the earth would be a collective phrase that does not only apply to Adam and zebe and their descendants! John reveals that, possibly , in this Great war' fought at some distant time and place, there were or may have been some casualties. So therefore part of why Jesus has come to earth on the flesh may also be to redeem more than just the Adamah. In this mystery too, it shows why it would be narrow minded to believe that all Black beings are evil or that all Whit beings ate evil no matter what physical presence we show on this earth.

    There is a pattern though but the racism and hate crimes committed on this earth goes way back in timeh prior to the presence of the modern Hominids! According to John's writings, the conflict that occurred in some other realm has not been brought to an endpoint but has transferred to this planet and and great imbalance is as a result of it still not settled. As modern Huminids we don't know completely if and when we are being made to interact with things not necessarily of this planet. The universe is so vast and there is so much more involved in to our intelligent existence. But FEAR of the unknown and unconquered realm of the world is definitely not the answer. We should boldly search out more truths but also be thankful for that opportunity and for others who made sacrifices for our chances to advance.
     
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    That is a good question. What I come to in my own travels is that the Bible does not start at the beginning of human history. The Sons of God and the daughters of men is one thinking point. Another is that Cain managed to find a wife after he was kicked out of Eden. These are two dead giveaways that the Bible is not reflective of the start of human history. What happened before Adam and Eve is a good thinking point indeed. A sci fi classic tries to tackle this. BTW it is my understanding that a black woman wrote this and her work was hijacked.

     
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    Ha ha Thank you Bro. Clyde!
     
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    Thank you for your comments!

    Well considering the very scriptures that I posted, the Bible actually does start at the beginning of human history in regards to what today is termed 'MODERN HUMINIDS'!--That is the key phrase that scientist use today and this phrase absolutely agrees with the Bible timeline of the creation of Adam and Eve.

    As this forum is GROUP STUDY based on Christians, I am basing my research here, on the Bible but also many other research too, in relation to what the Bible records. So the issue here is the term 'HUMAN HISTORY' as you stated and this is the problem that I too think about in terms of 'What did happen before the Biblical history'.

    My other thoughts and references are based on the fact that I did visit THE SMITHSONIAN, and the information there adds to my confidence in the phrase 'MODERN HOMINIDS'. So my wondering is in fact based upon 'just what did happen on this planet before modern hominids before Adam and Eve's timeline?

    So I do see that the Bible tells us in many ways that there were many beings on this planet before Adam and Eve manifested and this is so amazing to me because THE CHURCH has failed in this regards and do not teach this important part of human history.

    Yes, I absolutely agree with you in the phrase 'Sons of God and daughters of men' is an incredible clue to think on!

    But in regards to Cain, no, based on my research, the wife he found may not have been after he was kicked out of Eden, but he knew of this woman byway of his own mother, because that was her daughter. She was born prior to Cain and the Bible terms her as 'the Seed of the Serpent' and therefore, she was older than Cain. She might have left off from Eve at some point and Cain may have met her after a migration out of Eden, but the Bible and other research proves to me that she was Eve's offspring. But again the very scriptures that I wrote too in the Book of Revelations does show that the Bible may not go into detail about what happened before Adam and Eve and start 'HISTORY OF OTHER BEINGS that would not be defined as being HUMANS!!!-BUT the Bible does reveal there was life, intelligent life on this planet long before Adam and Eve, much longer before Adam and Eve. I will post the scriptures in part again:


    And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon;
    and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place
    found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
    called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into
    the earth,
    and his angels were cast out with him. REVELATION 12:7-9.

    And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, …
    REVELATION 20:2.

    This very phrase ‘that OLD SERPENT’ is extremely revealing! And it was repeated in scripture. It is the key to understanding that there was a very, very ancient intelligent being in this planet in comparison to the presence of Adam and Eve.

    But as far as 'human history' now, that is the question. Scientist use the term HOMINIDS. And I guess there is more to why there is this distinction between Modern Hominids and earlier beings that are also grouped under the heading of HOMINIDS.
     
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    HA HA! Thank you for the you tube clip! I did not know that! WOW!
    I'm not a tv person and I've never seen this movies, but now, I think I will!

    My husband is into that kind of sci Fi flicks and so are my sons, they have sat and ate popcorn and watched that stuff, but I just never found interest. One of my sons tells me that one of the popular sci fi is awesome and he says I would like it, but I don't know. I was never even into Star Trek, but I might just try to watch it. This co-worker once told me, (he was a White guy), that some of these popular films are based directly from the Bible.
     
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    Here's a snapshot ... Unfortunately, the captioned comments below the picture hasn't been proven as a legitimate claim.


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    AFRICANGLOBE – This little known story has met a just conclusion, as Sophia Stewart, African American author of The Matrix will finally receive her just due from the copyright infringement of her original work!!!



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