Black Spirituality Religion : What do you mean by worship?

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  1. dattaswami1

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    What do you mean by worship?

    What do you mean by worship? Prayers? Meditation? No, No. Prayers involve words. Meditation involves mind. Worship means action i.e., service, called ‘Karma Yoga’, which consists of two parts.

    1) Karma Sanyasa: Sacrificing your work (efforts) for the sake of God.

    2) Karma Phala Tyaga: Sacrificing a part of the ‘fruit of your work’ (money) for the mission of God.

    Where is Lord Datta? Datta means God given to the world in human form. When electricity is traveling as electrons in the atmosphere, you cannot touch it. But when it enters the wire and pervades all over the wire, you can touch it. Similarly, you cannot see the Lord Datta, who is pervading all over the world. When He enters the human body, you can see Him. Among all the human beings in the world, how to recognize Lord Datta’s human incarnation? You can recognize Him by His characteristic property; as fire is recognized by its characteristic property of heat. That characteristic property of the Lord is Jnana (Knowledge). The Veda says that He is Jnana. (Satyam Jnanam...). Now even ordinary scholars are preaching knowledge (Jnana). Then how to distinguish Him from ordinary scholars? He is also an embodiment of Bliss or Ananda. The Veda says, ‘Anando Brahma’. His Jnana gives you bliss in the heart. As the wind carries the coolness of the river His preaching carries Bliss. Miracles are only His jewels and can be given by Him even to demons. Infact, demons like Ravana showed many miracles. Miracles are not His characteristic properties and cannot be used to identify Him.

    Lord Datta comes in human form in every generation of mankind. If He were to bless only one human generation, He would become partial. He comes down and preaches knowledge and devotion in the world. Recognize Him and join His mission as a servant by doing Karma Yoga and serve Him in the propagation of knowledge and devotion. Do not think that you are helping Him. You are only serving Him. Your property is His property and you are also a part and parcel of His property.

    Is there a possibility of His clearing your debts (results of sins) 100% by Himself, without you having to suffer at all for them? Yes. He will do so too, but only if you serve Him without aspiring for anything in return from Him and if your service continues even after He troubles you. Your love must be real and must be proved in action by the sacrifice of work and money.
     
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    When one is on the Right Path...life is Not Complicated*

    Hotep

    To understand the Spirituality that every one is born in...is just to simply be your self and seek to become best at what it is that one is born to be in "Right Knowledge". Spirituality is not Religion...Religions are all man made.

    There are things that only Religions require one to do, say and think that are totally and absolutely a outrage to the natural laws in nature. Things that are un-natural and perverse to the universal laws in nature that only have a appeal to those...who are lost in ignorance.

    Life is only complicated when one is required to reach out for things that are man made...and held above the natural universal laws in nature. Life is simple when one knows the Truth in the universal-self and then all one must do is to seek and strive to understand the greater universe in space...In other words...be good to yourself...be good to (the planet) others...and honor the ancestors always.

    This is our only objective in life's becoming before the final transformation and not to serve a greedy and lazy blood sucking "Alien" who wants to be worshiped as G-d!

    The rules for us are already given (Medu Neteru) at Birth in universal laws that we don't ever need to change, twist and corrupt...for there is no purpose in that except what is a thing that is absolutely Evil and Wicked...hence...western religions......So be aware...be ware be ware...Mr and Mrs Black!

    The system of white supremacy is the system of un-justice that is replaced by the system of justice and there is nothing what so ever that we need as advice from a corrupt self destructive and foul thing except to spread more corruption...and why would we want to do that?

    To all of the Original Indigenous so-called Black Africans..."Know Thy Self "...Do MA`AT and Live!

    Ase`
     
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    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Everybody aspires the highest fruit through the easiest way. The easiest way is the path of knowledge, which does not require any sacrifice. The highest fruit is to become the very Lord right now from this moment onwards. They like the preacher to say that they should just come out of their house to receive a heap of infinite treasure lying down before the doors. Anybody will be happiest to receive the news that, he has become eligible to join the post of district collector in whatever stage of his study to the I.A.S. Examination he is present. The post is offered to the fresh student who just joined the I.A.S. Course and also to the student who passed the I.A.S. Examination. Both are equally eligible now itself to join the same post. If the preacher says that already both have joined the post and that they have forgotten this truth, now all the effort is only to recognize that they are the district collectors. This gives the idea that there is no need of any future effort. This is the mis-interpreted philosophy of monoism (Advaita) of Sankara.

    Everybody is very much attracted to this path. The influence of this path is so much that nobody is coming out of this illusion. It is so sweet that they are unable to leave this state. The basic misconcept is to think that the self is the superself. Self is any living being in this world. Super self is the Lord. They just find one common point i.e., the pure awareness (Chit) exists in both. The Prime Minister and his peon have several common points like pure awareness, similar form of external human body etc. Both eat and sleep similarly. Both are married and both have children. Because of these common points can you treat the Prime Minister and His peon as one and the same? Based on one common point i.e., pure awareness, how can you say that self is superself? Veda says that by the order of the Lord, the Sun is shining. In summer due to sunstroke a human being is killed. Let the Advaita scholar stand against the sunstroke and order the Sun not to kill him.

    When the disciples of Sankara thought that they are also the Lord, Sankara swallowed the molten lead and asked the disciples to do the same. Then they fell on the feet of Sankara. Then Sankara told "Shivah Kevaloham", which means that only He is Shiva. The word Kevala (only) is important here. Sankara while taking bath in the ocean at Puri told "Oh! Lord! Though the qualitative identity is in between us, the quantitative difference exists. The water is common in both the sea and the wave like the pure awareness in the soul and super soul. But the quantitative difference exists and one should not forget that the entire wave is in the sea but the entire sea is not in the wave". This is stated as a message for the sake of ordinary soul. These Advaita Scholars filter all the differentiating points and finally get the common point filtered down into the beaker as the filtrate. The differentiating points are the residue on the filter paper and the filtered common point is in the downward beaker. They see only the beaker but not the filter paper. Therefore, the whole spiritual path is twisted and confused almost all the human beings.

    Seeing this situation the same Sankara came as Ramanuja and Madhva and clearly differentiated the superself from the self. Some devotees have come out of this illusion but several people are still lingering there only due to their unreasonable and unimaginable ambition for the fruit. Unless this basic concept is realized, all the stages of the spiritual effort cannot be healthy. The poison injected in the foundation has spread all over the upstairs of the construction. Your question has already assumed that self is super self. You have no doubt about that basic concept. Nobody likes to touch that basic concept. If that basic concept is analysed the entire castle of their ambition will collapse. They cannot tolerate to loose the highest fruit, which was captured by them by the easiest way of self-realization. Now for such self-realization, you are asking whether the meditation or the study of scriptures is the path. When the goal itself is absent what is the use of the path? It is something like asking whether one should pass eighth standard or ninth standard to become the district collector. Neither of these two standards can give you the post. By passing those two standards one can get the post of a peon. One has to pass the I.A.S. Examination for which he is eligible after passing degree examination, which is far from both those standards. These advaita scholars argue that the peon is the collector. They do not accept the existence of any higher post other than the peon.

    The reason for this basic misunderstanding is the word "Brahman". As per Sanskrit grammar this word comes from the root "Bruhi-Vruddhau", which means that the root meaning of this word is greatness. Anything that is great can be called as Brahman. The soul is the most precious and greatest item of the creation and is called as Para Prakruti, which means the greatest of all the created items. The soul is included as a part of the creation (Prakruti) and is called as Para Prakruti as said in Gita (Prakritim Viddhi me paraam….). It is not Creator. If it is Creator it cannot be called as Prakruti. It is only the modification of food during evolution as said in Veda (Annat Purushah…). The same inert energy called as electro magnetic radiation working through a special unknown technology is life. The materials of the technology are known and the working inert energy is also known. But the special technology in which it works is not known and therefore, life energy is not synthesized so far. Only God knows that technology.
     
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    What is the point for...Foolishness?

    Hotep

    It is now clear to any one reading these post that foolishness is the order of the day with no intentions of any one ever understanding the "Gibberish" above in your #3 post or any others. What are you saying to the so-called Africans here? They (we) don't know and most certainly you don't know a thing about what you are saying.

    This is the second time you went to great efforts to "Distort" and "Fabricate" words and claim they are from another post and that post can't be found any ware on the "Destee" site...because it don't exist in the form you present. You have continually shown only disrespect to every one here and now you are put in "Check".

    I charge you with being a lier, deceiver and a devil = "doer of evil" and you really don't have any intentions what so ever in helping here but to continue what you are only the best at and that is to spread "Confusion" and "Ignorance" through your words of "Sanctified Racism" that is a waste of your time and ours...your day is done.

    At the same time I will...thank you for exposing yourself for being what you truly are. And also... under estimating the minds of my people here that puts you in the greatest dis-advantage...as you continue to "Self-Destruct". You have from now on...made your self...the "Untouchable"...and "Extinction" is your fate.

    Ase`


    Final Note: If you can't give a proper and accurate quote of others...then why would you give a accurate and proper quote about any thing regarding the " TRUTH "? The answer is...you can't.
     
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    Until the reality of the Dalits is dealt with, I ain't trying to hear Jack About What Anyone From India is Saying !!! I understand the religious propaganda, the caste system and the whole nine....so if the physical reality is not being addressed by those who claim to have the spiritual knowledge...they really need to stay the fok out of here!!!! P.S. those who study Ghandi will find out that he wasn't shiiit either as it relates to our people!!
     
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    Praying is indeed action, and can be under worship, and worshiping the Father is in how you feel, also. You must have a fear, a love, an everlasting reverence to His Highness, His Might, and His Will. Worship, however, has been a word that's brought some misunderstanding, but it's all in how you use it, I believe.

    When others "worshiped" someone they met, I believe what was meant was that they payed them respect out of bowing, and such. But when we truly worship the Father, we pay the Most High the Highest the respect of which only He is worthy, thus we should worship no other, but He.

    All in all, His worship, love, fear, trust, hope, belief, and faith all tie in to one another, and you can't really have one without the others. So to truly worship the Father, you'd need to be believing and faithful to His Word, who He sent for our salvation, by His sacrifice and resurrection.
     
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