Black People : What Do They Need To know?

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  1. happy69

    happy69 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    As a confirmed and practicing proud African American; and as such, I have some strong social conservative stances - and I am more liberal politically, although I do prescribe to eithe of the major parties, because those who are
    in power in those are all the same to me. I mean, I believe I am going to get it any way I go....

    But, in wake of what I see happening, to me and mine, with the current racist administration in charge; all I can do is support the other side; who have become weak and pathetic.

    What I want to know is what would you tell them to do, to take back control of this country; I don't believe that it could get any worse?
     
  2. panafrica

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    The Democratic Party need to stop trying to be all inclusive. In other words they have to chose their constituency & cater to their concerns, instead of being liberal for the liberalism. The effort to be all things to all people gets no results....in this country, there are too many diverse groups with contradicting goals to successfully do this.
     
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    Hello < Happy69 >





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  4. Ralfa'il

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    You need to tell them to grow a pair and stop allowing the conservatives and Republicans bully them around.

    Also, they need to start upholding their traditional liberal values instead of trying to "out conserve" conservatives.

    The Democratic Party has swung so far to the right that we ne longer have a liberal party; only a conservative party and a moderate party.

    The vast majority of people in this country are very liberal: They want massive government programs, could care less about homosexual unions, wish all races could get along, want minimum wages increased, and desire a universal free health-care system.

    The Democratic Party is promoting none of these issues, but are instead focusing on who can bark the loudest and look the most patriotic.








    I'll tell you something sis....

    The real reasons why the Democratic party is so weak isn't talked about much in public, but the real reason it's weak is because it's not unified.

    There are very deep historic divisions with in the Democractic party that has gone back all the way to the time of Roosevelt.

    At the core of this deep division is the race issue.

    The Republic Party is mostly ran by rich conservative racist white males who have learned to play together and will say and do anything to achieve and maintain power.

    They are ruthless by nature.


    The Democratic Party is divided between educated AfroAmericans, white union workers, feminists, homosexuals, and middle to low income older Americans.

    Each of these groups are have their own agendas, rarely care for working with the other and are often at eachother's throats.

    The poor white folks know that the rich are trying to give them the shaft, but they hate so bad to work with black people that they'd rather sit back and let it happen.
     
  5. happy69

    happy69 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thank you all - I think everyone makes some very valid points.

    I think that We have to unify first.

    As dangerous an entity I think the Black Republican Super Minority (I call them the coon colony) is; I think that for the most part they can and should be ignored. Most of Us are conservative, and most conservatives are in fact Democrats.

    But, We do have to challenge Our loyalty to that group of mostly White men and women - whose mindthink about Us is not much different from the mindthink of the White men and women controlling the Republican party or the Libertarian or Independent for that matter; that is why for them politics is a game and something that can be played with; and after they are still going to go the same parties.

    For Us, because of the station We find Ourselves in, it is life and death.

    Point Blank; We have to hold Our votes and Our alignments hostage.

    But how do We get them to focus on What We want, and not lulled into this share, and greater good nonsense - everyone is looking out for themselves, except Us.

    How do We challenge Liberalism's weak parts and redirect it towards what is better for Us as a group... for example, acknowledging the limitations placed on Us by societal factors and Our own inability to imagine Our Own greatness is one thing, but to cater to such narrowly is an insult. It assumes that there is no hope and that We cannot do; but Our very history contradicts such a notion... how do We change that?

    One more thing; the Democrats have casted Us to the side for better fruit- other constituencies - who are not loyal to them, but who have reaped the benefits of Liberalism - how do We juxtapose that with Our Support? Okay, We have been played - how do We make this a game?
     
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    Ralfa'il Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    AfroAmericans need to drop back out of both Parties and start their own political action force where our values and agendas will be priority, instead of having to compromise.
     
  7. Sun Ship

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    Sister happy69, when you have what’s supposed to be a democracy in a country as culturally complex and socially diverse as America, and have only two viable political parties, then something is wrong.

    When will Black folks wake up!!… When we found out that Kerry and Bush were both of the exclusive Skull and Bones secret society of Yale, this should have been enough for the most slowest of Negroes to understand that the Democrats and the Republicans are just two-sides of the same oligarchical coin and always have been.

    There is no such thing as true recognized Liberalism or political Left in America…that’s why people like Noam Chomsky and other powerful liberal thinkers are never interviewed or cited by the mainstream political media. The true Left or Liberals are dumped into categories such as leftist zealots, radical fringe and conspiratorialist and are absolutely ignored.
     
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    I was just about to post the SAME exact thing!

    If we have our own, What are their chances of telling US what to do? How to do it? What to look for? WE CAN DECIDE FOR OURSELVES!

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  9. happy69

    happy69 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I agree with you brothers, but how?

    There is a guy, Webster Brooks who is trying to do such a thing; It is called the Low Country amd Chesapeke Society: I think it is www.LowCountryMovement.com (or org.)

    And he explains the reasons for such, and how it could be utilized for Us, but I still cannot see how We can get 36 million plus of Us to do so???????
    It will come down to unifying.

    According to some stats that I have read in recent months; conservatives estimate that it will take at least 10 years for Hispanics voting to catch Ours; and since more of Us are voting now, I think it can be even more potent; think of where We could be without so many disinfranchised...

    But, I have noticed too, that another thing has come out of this: If you analyze political races - it seems that in many places We are becoming the swing votes... We need to think about parlaying that into viable terms... What are We going to get if We go your way?

    Again, you are right; but how?

    How are We going to convince Us that this is the best way to go?
     
  10. Chucky

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    Black people, WAKE UP. It is a waste of time and direction to debate between republicans and democrats. They are both a group of devils.




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