I've seen this many times but I can't really agree. Remember, you're dealing with Hebrew which did not have vowels. This is mixing Hebrew with Kemetic words as if both languages were somewhat interchangeable rather than simply both languages sharing some of the same sounds. But again, we're converting both into English so I'm just saying... this probably only works in English. (YRL)
You have seen it many times because it "Is Real"
Ancient Egyptian did not have vowels either.
Israel is pronounced Yisrael or Yisharel....not much difference
The founder of established Judaism has a Egyptian Name - Moses
Um... no. What I mean is that the Israelites had their own God (fictional) who only cared about them.
No true...
Melchizedek(Salemite/Jebusite) and Jethro(Midianite/Kenite) worship Yahweh....both were not Hebrew or Israelite
This is what allowed them to attack other people with the excuse being that those people had different gods.
Secular or profane interpretation.
One Esoteric interpretation....Silencing the Monkey Mind
But it was actually impossible for other groups to have the same God because their God was made up by them.
As shown above with Jethro...this is incorrect.
Syncretism was Very Popular....Osiris and Apis = Serapis
Only a real God could have contacted several groups and got them to worship him. But this is NEVER what happens, right?
Again incorrect...the very opposites is true - Bahia and Sikhism
And based on your logic then Yahweh must be real.
Every so-called deity is 100% dependent on humans to "spread the gospel" of their existence. If we were to stop doing that, there would be no "gods".
Yes and No
What we call or label God is distinct from us....like gravity
Yes...in that God dwells in Humans.
No...in that God does not only dwell in humans..
Until Inter specie communications becomes more rigoruos and popular we will not know who/what and if other animals trees and stones worship
When non-Israelites (pre NT) accepted YHWH as their God they were basically given a type of naturalized status in the nation of Israel. So even then, it wasn't about humanity; it was only about this one national identity. Everyone else could kick rocks. The only reason anyone thinks its about humanity today is because the story is being perpetuated by non-Israelites (post NT). And they had no choice but to believe this because they were being included as a "spiritual Israel" (Romans 11).
Not so....Chosen people in a sense means Saved Peoples
Amos 9:7
Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the Lord. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?
Monotheism was invented by Egyptian High preist under whom Moses the Law giver studied....Akhenaton(Amenhotep III)
Moses Curated and Codified what we Called Judaism
You're being too generous. Yes... powers existed. When the air blowed… it wasn't just air. It was wind. By experiencing the different powers of nature (ex: tornados are sometimes called the finger of God) humans reacted by ascribing divine representations. Zeus is a thunder God because lighting and thunder were among the scariest things in their world.
All energies and powers we know now existed then...
They were harnessed and manipulated by different means...
And why did the gods live up on mountains?
Esoteric....
Because God's throne (seat of the soul) is your Skull...
Gods laws reside in the Heart.
Moses went up the mountain to see the "burn bush" - God
Because people could only go up so high. So yes... the forces of nature existed. But no... that doesn't mean they were in any way correct about what they were putting their labels on. It wasn't an entity.
If an entity is something distinct....then it could be construed as such.
Gravity is distinct from other forces....yes or no?
Was it Humanlike or humaniod....No
This force was Anthropomorphized....by the Ancients for simplification.
This is the misconception of the NT. The stories we heard are stories of failure. They failed to achieve their goals. Israel was always supposed to be an independent nation. They wanted to BE Rome, not be slaves to Rome. The path of the messiah was preordained to bring world peace. Yeshua was not THAT messiah and did NOT fulfill all of the prophecies of the messiah. THAT is why the Jews did not AND STILL do not accept him.
That is the Profane interpretation....to hide the truth in plain sight.
Esotoric....Israel is the Light to Nations - the Light Paul saw on the road to Damascus
Furthermore, the Jews never had ANY reason to believe that YHWH was going to allow the death of one man to replace the sacrificial system. This is a Christian heresy.
Hosea 6:6
For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
We were taught that this is what Jesus taught but there is no evidence that he knew he was even going to die at the start of his mission.
Matthew 20:17-19.
And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.
So then what was the plan at the start of his mission? John the Baptist was teaching salvation from Sin. But he used a device that was absolutely known to them which was ritual purification (aka baptism).
Yes....He was an Essene
What Yeshua taught about Sin wasn't new at all. The only thing that made him different was his claim of being the messiah. And maybe that is what others claimed on his behalf. We don't know for sure because he died before the NT was a thing.
What he Lived and taught was called the Way.....Tao
Unfortunately, you're choosing the Kool-Aid version. That's fine. But I just want you to think about this. You didn't exist back then. Christians did not exist back then.
Christians of two types existed before Jesus....
KRST - Karast....
Followers of Serapis were also called Christians..
Jesus Followers were Called Nazarenes
The NT specifically says that the end was going to come in their time period, not ours. It even warns them about where to run to. And I believe that was really a reference to the conflict with Rome and I believe that's the reason we found their writings in the mountains. But the "end of the world" they were trying to escape was Roman persecution. Christianity is what happened after Rome CONQUERED their religious rebellion.
Consider this. Imagine you are a slave like Nat Turner. Who are you trying to free? You and the other hostage slaves on your plantation? Or the master's great great great great great grandchildren who would once again enslave other people? I'd venture to say you'd be more worried about immediate needs. Christianity wants you to ignore the immediate needs of the Israelites because they want to make themselves the subject of salvation. This is why Christians believe that only Christians will be "saved". But Christians didn't even exist at the time of his supposed sacrifice. And why do I say "supposed"? I do believe that he died. But I believe he was executed for sedition. In other words, he died trying to save his people from Rome. But this story is not useful to the Romans. It makes him a martyr. So that's why the narrative became that it was about everyone.
Jesus never even tried to raise an army...
When one of his disciples cut of the ear of a roman soldier he heal it
You need to apply a fair bit of Occam's razor here. If you believe God had a hand in executing Yeshua for sedition then where is the rest of the prophecy's fulfillment? Why are people still here and not lying with the lions and lambs in heaven?
Heaven is a state of Mind....
Luke 17:20-21
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Says who? Was he the only man executed by Rome? Did God tell ANYONE else that this man was going to be THE sacrifice? Why was a human sacrifice ever needed? The sacrificial system was always symbolic. Killing something doesn't act as actual payment for sin. Killing a man cannot act as payment either.
Yes...Sacrificing Animals was Symbolic.
Many cultures has what is called "whipping boys" and they are very real.
They are often whip punished and killed in the "stead" of another.
Isaiah 53....it is only 12 verses.
And do you understand why, in each of their stories, they were executed?
en.wikipedia.org
The Book title is Christianity
before Christ...I read the book in the 1980's.
You tell me why they were excuted?
The one that the Israelites heard of, because of where they lived was Hadad
en.wikipedia.org
He's a storm often referred to as "Ba'al".
I may be wrong but I feel like you're giving the story credibility because you think it has multiple sources. However... it's really just the same original story that was so popular that it spread to different places. It did not come from different gods or revealed by different prophets. It simply spread like a virus; just like Christianity. Stories don't have to be real in order to spread like this.
What are you trying to prove my point for me....thank you
The Story is Real if understood
However the Narrative can be misleading
All sixteen Crucified Saviours are telling the same story using different narratives - hence the greatest story ever told
It's not really self-sacrifice if I get caught for committing a crime, tried, and sentenced to death. You're saying this because the Christian narrative is that he had a choice and that he willingly gave up his life. But this assumes he had superpowers. He did not.
Every heard of "suicide by cop" not the same but similar...using the relevant and available establishment to achieve your goal
But thats beside the point....thats the narrative
The story is He Died and Raised - Conquest of Death
Not really... at least not according to Strong's #4899
Transliteration:
mashiyach {maw-shee'-akh}
Definition:
anointed, anointed one
of the Messiah, Messianic prince
of the king of Israel
of the high priest of Israel
of Cyrus
of the patriarchs as anointed kings
www.linkedword.com
(click on Messiah in v25)
Usage: The term "mashiach" refers to someone who is anointed with oil, signifying their consecration to a specific role or office. In the Hebrew Bible, it is used to describe priests, kings, and sometimes prophets who were anointed as part of their divine appointment.
Over time, "mashiach" came to be associated with the anticipated deliverer and king, the Messiah, who would establish God's kingdom.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Christians believed in the death of Yeshua but they were cherry-picking from OT prophecies. Yeshua and his disciples may have used the existence of OT prophecies to gain the influence of "the messiah" and therefore claim "chosen one" status. But the problem with this is that they were able to follow the prophecies as a game plan, not a series of coincidences that just happened to line up with prophecy. They literally got a donkey to ride into Jerusalem because they read it.
I see no problem with this
His followers were Israelites and may have been with the sect known as the Nazarenes but also weren't necessarily called anything different from whatever they were before because taking the name of your leader is something that cults do and just because he's a cult leader now (post mortem) doesn't mean that's what HE INTENDED. Making up names speaks to someone with an ego; not someone who is humble and not even teaching something new.
Jesus was a Nazarene(Nazorean/Nazrim) and so were his followers called
The Word Nazarene is a blend of Nazarite and Essene...both were religious Movements
I do not accept the argument that it is because he was born in Nazareth..why he was called a nazarene.
