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Hoteph Beloved Sisters and Brothers:
The question, what are the Folks who criticize Bill Cosby, is a valid one which I do not think the questioner really desire an answer to, but since it is asked, I will answer, and the answer is simply, those people that criticize Bill Cosby and is among those that is being criticized, they are what is call Realist, people without baggage of owing the amerca society not one penny, as a matter of fact it is the other way around, if anybody is owed, it is the people Bill Cosby is criticizing.
So tell me, what in the hell holding up their side of the bargain mean, when have oppressed Black people ever been given the respect or consideration to be asked what it is we desire from america, when have Black poor people ever gone into negotiation with america society about anything that is relative to their desires and needs, well I will tell you, Never, not even when the Black Man name Marcus Mosiah Garvey, one who could boast of a Membership of Black rank and file people that numbered in the Ten Million, international, not even that Man by the name of Marcus Garvey, which the america society was not willing to sit down and hear what the True Black People was after at that Time and it is all because it was what america had so decided it would be, which was Black poor people is to engage in an act of self denial and a willingness to do the bidding of white folks, and that is what the Difference between Dubois and Garvey was all about, one crying to the white society to be given consideration to be able to walk into the front door of their business and the other was about receiving the over due respect of asking Black Folks what they want america Society to do for them, which was to walk out of the Door and go Home with the debt owed to their Enslaved Ancestors, paid to the Children of the Middle passage.
Black People of little and no means, have no bargain with White america and not even with the likes of a Bill Cosby, which mean not even with negro america.
In the Kerner report of the civil Rights era, the seventies if my memory serve me correctly, if not, then just pay attention to the point being made, the White Kerner report end up admitting that there are two america, One White and the other in america is Black, meaning you have two different Social economic Stratum and in the Black stratum, you have the same type of class system going on, with each system, White and Black, being controlled by white Folks, so the making of the Bill Cosby syndrome must be contributed to white folks as well, and it be the Bill Cosby's that went into negotiation with the devil and entered into a bargain with him, not poor Black people, those that fit at the same level in both Stratum in america, the White and the Black, True Divine Black Nationalist Spiritualist does not enter into a bargain with the devil.
So hush up with that double two face talking, implying that Poor Black people entered into a bargain with white Folks in america, the only bargain we hold fast to, is the one we made with the Honorable Marcus Garvey and that is, we will continue the fight for the Liberation of Black, people from america, and will never get tired of condemning white folks for what they did to our Enslaved Ancestors and do to this day demand restitution for the crime that was committed against our Enslaved Ancestors and that restitution will come as we our Enslaved Ancestors Children say it must come, and that is, with the payment of Reparation, so that we can take our Black behind Home as The Honorable Marcus told us we should, because Afrika is for the Afrikans and not america.
To Black poor people, our fight is not about education, it is about our Liberation, because in america, Poor Black people is stuck in a caste system in both Stratum in america.
In america our fight is about staying alive and out of the white man concentration camps he call prisons, it is about providing the best we can for our families, with what is available at the Stratum level we occupy in america, both Stratum of different Societies.
Beloved, our fight is about and must be,Reparation/Repatriation and Nation State status in Afrika and condemning the wicked america so call criminal Justice ( Injustice ) system.
The Rising of the Divine Black Nationalist Spiritualist at this Time will enter into, not a bargain with a known liar, but a promise with lying america, and here it is, when you pay the Reparation Debt you owe to the Children of the Middle passage, which constitute the majority of Black people at the lower Stratum of both societies, we will Liberate ourselves away from america and go Home to the Land of our Mother and Father and establish the next State in Afrika and from such a position, we will move out across Afrika assisting in the Liberation of Afrika and we echo the sentiment of the Honorable Marcus Garvey, Afrika Is For The Afrikan, and so it is and so it shall be.
Yes the Divine Black Nationalist hide from no one in presenting the Truth, but the weak knee negro and the Racist Devils they deny us the opportunity to present the Truth to the Real black folks in america by blocking our entry into the main stream of debate about what Black folks need to hear from the Divine Black Nationalist spiritualist.
The Truth, Negro such as Bill Cosby despise the Truth.
Beloved, Only The Devil Is Displeased Concerning This Revelation, As I Share With you The Truth, Having No Concern With What Your Behavior Will Be Toward Me, Because I Follow The Path So Charted For Me By Our Ancient Divine Cosmic Ebonite Ancestors, As I Have Only Love For You Who Know, and Know Not.
Date, Time And Place can be assigned to Truth and Lies, but Sound Profound Reasoning and Logic, Bed Down only with Truth
Remain strong and always be alert, taking no one for granted.
Free your Mind and conquer Fear and the Black Divinity will return, bringing the Liberation of the Divine Black so call Afrikan Nation, which is now divided and fearful of God in this life, because of the devil religion.
The Truth, Black folks Despise The Truth, Thus serve as a sign of how hateful we are toward the You of ourselves and how well programmed we Black Folks are.
I come sharing the Truth not with arrogance, but with the Divine
meekness so required of me by our Ancient Cosmic Dark ancestors.
>
> The Truth is not to be claimed, it require that it be known and
understood, relinquishing all irrational emotions, attributes of Lies
and act of deception.
>
> Such is why the up coming June 24-25 Gathering is so important
to the True Warriors, the Divine Black Nationalist Spiritualist, such
a serious Gathering is not for any and everybody wearing a confused
Black face and a Human Being Mind, ingredients for the making of
nothing but confusion embedded in Fear.
>
> Quality Divine Black Minds are only welcome at this Gathering,
not the quantity of a Gathering of confused hypocritical Human beings
Minds, those rather to be known as anything but Black people.
>
> For further Info. regarding the June 24 Gathering, Contact:
goddess_isis_loving@yahoo.com or tafari4ii@sbcglobal@net
>
> I Will Present The Truth Wherever I Can Get Truth An Appearance,
Even In The Midst Of Black Folks Fears and Divisiveness!!! -osiris
>
> Here Is Loving the Black So Call Afrikan,Even In Spite Of
Yourselves!!!-osiris
>
> It Is Time to Elevate The Truth and Condemn The Lie!!!-osiris
>
> It Is The Black Fool That say, I Have Lost Nothing In Afrika!!!-
Osiris
> It Is The Fool That Ignore The Truth In Favor Of a Fool!!!-osOsiris
> Run! Run!, Run Black Woman And Man, Back Into The Safety Of Your
Divinity!!!-Osiris
> The Human Being Say God Command, The Divine Say God Reprimand
Not!!!-osiris
>
> All Respect and Honor to That Black Prophet, The Honorable Marcus
Garvey.
>
> Hoteph
Osiris
> Chief Elder
> Sankofa Repatriation Movement
> Hierophant, Teacher Of Ancient Black Afrikan Theology
HCHAPS2@aol.com wrote:
Commentary: What are the Folks Who Criticize Bill Cosby Doing to Help Uplift Poor Blacks?
Date: Thursday, June 08, 2006
By: Gregory Kane, BlackAmericaWeb.com
OOOOHHHH! Can you believe Bill Cosby “went there†on Michael Eric Dyson?
It happened around the middle of May. You may have heard about it.
Cosby was in the nation’s capital, holding a forum at the University of the District of Columbia. The forum is one of nearly a couple of dozen Cosby has held with black audiences since 2004, when he supposedly went off on poor black folks during a speech “celebrating†the 50th anniversary of the Brown vs. Board of Education Supreme Court ruling.
Actually, Cosby didn’t go off on poor black folks in general. He went off, specifically, on the ones he clearly identified as “not holding up their end of the bargain†when it comes to taking advantage of educational opportunities.
This was more than some black liberals could bear. Dyson, a professor a the University of Pennsylvania, is one of them. Dyson rushed a book into print called “Is Bill Cosby Right? (Or Has The Black Middle Class Lost Its Mind?)" — in which the author finds Cosby guilty of insufficient genuflection when the words “poor black folks†are mentioned.
Since then, there has been a clash of ideas between Cosby and Dyson not seen since W.E.B. DuBois and Marcus Garvey went at it back in the 1920s (Except that neither Cosby nor Dyson has called the other a traitor to the race yet, which DuBois and Garvey did with gleeful regularity.). Chicago Tribune columnist Clarence Page described what happened last month at UDC in what was the latest clash of ideas between Cosby and Dyson.
“(A) heckler ... started shouting from the audience. He derided Mr. Cosby’s ‘watered-down dialogue’ and demanded answers to ... Dyson’s highly publicized book ... That’s when Mr. Cosby lost his cool. (He) jumped off the stage ... and raced up the aisle to loom over his somewhat astonished questioner.â€
Page wrote that Cosby said he was sick of people like the heckler and Dyson.
Later, according to Page, Cosby “went there†on Dyson by questioning the latter’s choice to teach at a ritzy, predominantly white, Ivy League school as opposed to, say, the more working-class, predominantly black UDC.
“And how much does it cost to go there?†Page quoted Cosby as asking about the University of Pennsylvania. “How many black students do they have at Penn?†Page said Cosby told him and another journalist he’d start listening to Dyson when Dyson starts teaching at UDC or a similar school.
I’ll go Cosby one better: why isn’t Dyson teaching in one of the inner-city black high schools across the nation that desperately need good black male teachers?
In his book, Dyson lamented the absence of resources, funding and good teachers at predominantly black schools in poor black neighborhoods throughout the country. I’ll assume Dyson is a good teacher. So why’s he teaching at Penn and not at a predominantly black inner-city school in Philadelphia? Or at Baltimore’s Frederick Douglass High School, which is failing so miserably that state officials wanted to take it over?
I guess Cosby’s saying that if Dyson wants to start talking the talk, he’d better start walking the walk. Cosby didn’t say anything in 2004 that black folks hadn’t said previously. According to Benjamin Karim, a former assistant to Malcolm X, his mentor said it back in the 1960s.
In his book “Remembering Malcolm,†Karim said that one day he, Malcolm and some others were standing outside a black housing project. Malcolm asked how many reference books and dictionaries they’d expect to find if they went to each apartment in the project.
“Enough to fill the trunk of this car?†Malcolm asked. “How about a suitcase?â€
Malcolm was saying, long before Cosby said it, that being black and poor didn’t absolve poor black folks of their responsibility to “hold up their end of the bargain†in education. If there are no reference books, dictionaries and other reading material in poor black homes, then who’s to blame?
What’s to stop the poorest black parents from reading to their pre-school children every day? What’s to stop poor black parents from sending their kids to free public libraries and having them read a book per week? And writing a book report on it?
The answer is, "Not a darned thing." Saying you can’t is an excuse.
Cosby and I were both in the service, so we may remember what our basic training drill sergeants had to say about excuses.
Everybody has one, and they all stink.
__._,_.___
The question, what are the Folks who criticize Bill Cosby, is a valid one which I do not think the questioner really desire an answer to, but since it is asked, I will answer, and the answer is simply, those people that criticize Bill Cosby and is among those that is being criticized, they are what is call Realist, people without baggage of owing the amerca society not one penny, as a matter of fact it is the other way around, if anybody is owed, it is the people Bill Cosby is criticizing.
So tell me, what in the hell holding up their side of the bargain mean, when have oppressed Black people ever been given the respect or consideration to be asked what it is we desire from america, when have Black poor people ever gone into negotiation with america society about anything that is relative to their desires and needs, well I will tell you, Never, not even when the Black Man name Marcus Mosiah Garvey, one who could boast of a Membership of Black rank and file people that numbered in the Ten Million, international, not even that Man by the name of Marcus Garvey, which the america society was not willing to sit down and hear what the True Black People was after at that Time and it is all because it was what america had so decided it would be, which was Black poor people is to engage in an act of self denial and a willingness to do the bidding of white folks, and that is what the Difference between Dubois and Garvey was all about, one crying to the white society to be given consideration to be able to walk into the front door of their business and the other was about receiving the over due respect of asking Black Folks what they want america Society to do for them, which was to walk out of the Door and go Home with the debt owed to their Enslaved Ancestors, paid to the Children of the Middle passage.
Black People of little and no means, have no bargain with White america and not even with the likes of a Bill Cosby, which mean not even with negro america.
In the Kerner report of the civil Rights era, the seventies if my memory serve me correctly, if not, then just pay attention to the point being made, the White Kerner report end up admitting that there are two america, One White and the other in america is Black, meaning you have two different Social economic Stratum and in the Black stratum, you have the same type of class system going on, with each system, White and Black, being controlled by white Folks, so the making of the Bill Cosby syndrome must be contributed to white folks as well, and it be the Bill Cosby's that went into negotiation with the devil and entered into a bargain with him, not poor Black people, those that fit at the same level in both Stratum in america, the White and the Black, True Divine Black Nationalist Spiritualist does not enter into a bargain with the devil.
So hush up with that double two face talking, implying that Poor Black people entered into a bargain with white Folks in america, the only bargain we hold fast to, is the one we made with the Honorable Marcus Garvey and that is, we will continue the fight for the Liberation of Black, people from america, and will never get tired of condemning white folks for what they did to our Enslaved Ancestors and do to this day demand restitution for the crime that was committed against our Enslaved Ancestors and that restitution will come as we our Enslaved Ancestors Children say it must come, and that is, with the payment of Reparation, so that we can take our Black behind Home as The Honorable Marcus told us we should, because Afrika is for the Afrikans and not america.
To Black poor people, our fight is not about education, it is about our Liberation, because in america, Poor Black people is stuck in a caste system in both Stratum in america.
In america our fight is about staying alive and out of the white man concentration camps he call prisons, it is about providing the best we can for our families, with what is available at the Stratum level we occupy in america, both Stratum of different Societies.
Beloved, our fight is about and must be,Reparation/Repatriation and Nation State status in Afrika and condemning the wicked america so call criminal Justice ( Injustice ) system.
The Rising of the Divine Black Nationalist Spiritualist at this Time will enter into, not a bargain with a known liar, but a promise with lying america, and here it is, when you pay the Reparation Debt you owe to the Children of the Middle passage, which constitute the majority of Black people at the lower Stratum of both societies, we will Liberate ourselves away from america and go Home to the Land of our Mother and Father and establish the next State in Afrika and from such a position, we will move out across Afrika assisting in the Liberation of Afrika and we echo the sentiment of the Honorable Marcus Garvey, Afrika Is For The Afrikan, and so it is and so it shall be.
Yes the Divine Black Nationalist hide from no one in presenting the Truth, but the weak knee negro and the Racist Devils they deny us the opportunity to present the Truth to the Real black folks in america by blocking our entry into the main stream of debate about what Black folks need to hear from the Divine Black Nationalist spiritualist.
The Truth, Negro such as Bill Cosby despise the Truth.
Beloved, Only The Devil Is Displeased Concerning This Revelation, As I Share With you The Truth, Having No Concern With What Your Behavior Will Be Toward Me, Because I Follow The Path So Charted For Me By Our Ancient Divine Cosmic Ebonite Ancestors, As I Have Only Love For You Who Know, and Know Not.
Date, Time And Place can be assigned to Truth and Lies, but Sound Profound Reasoning and Logic, Bed Down only with Truth
Remain strong and always be alert, taking no one for granted.
Free your Mind and conquer Fear and the Black Divinity will return, bringing the Liberation of the Divine Black so call Afrikan Nation, which is now divided and fearful of God in this life, because of the devil religion.
The Truth, Black folks Despise The Truth, Thus serve as a sign of how hateful we are toward the You of ourselves and how well programmed we Black Folks are.
I come sharing the Truth not with arrogance, but with the Divine
meekness so required of me by our Ancient Cosmic Dark ancestors.
>
> The Truth is not to be claimed, it require that it be known and
understood, relinquishing all irrational emotions, attributes of Lies
and act of deception.
>
> Such is why the up coming June 24-25 Gathering is so important
to the True Warriors, the Divine Black Nationalist Spiritualist, such
a serious Gathering is not for any and everybody wearing a confused
Black face and a Human Being Mind, ingredients for the making of
nothing but confusion embedded in Fear.
>
> Quality Divine Black Minds are only welcome at this Gathering,
not the quantity of a Gathering of confused hypocritical Human beings
Minds, those rather to be known as anything but Black people.
>
> For further Info. regarding the June 24 Gathering, Contact:
goddess_isis_loving@yahoo.com or tafari4ii@sbcglobal@net
>
> I Will Present The Truth Wherever I Can Get Truth An Appearance,
Even In The Midst Of Black Folks Fears and Divisiveness!!! -osiris
>
> Here Is Loving the Black So Call Afrikan,Even In Spite Of
Yourselves!!!-osiris
>
> It Is Time to Elevate The Truth and Condemn The Lie!!!-osiris
>
> It Is The Black Fool That say, I Have Lost Nothing In Afrika!!!-
Osiris
> It Is The Fool That Ignore The Truth In Favor Of a Fool!!!-osOsiris
> Run! Run!, Run Black Woman And Man, Back Into The Safety Of Your
Divinity!!!-Osiris
> The Human Being Say God Command, The Divine Say God Reprimand
Not!!!-osiris
>
> All Respect and Honor to That Black Prophet, The Honorable Marcus
Garvey.
>
> Hoteph
Osiris
> Chief Elder
> Sankofa Repatriation Movement
> Hierophant, Teacher Of Ancient Black Afrikan Theology
HCHAPS2@aol.com wrote:
Commentary: What are the Folks Who Criticize Bill Cosby Doing to Help Uplift Poor Blacks?
Date: Thursday, June 08, 2006
By: Gregory Kane, BlackAmericaWeb.com
OOOOHHHH! Can you believe Bill Cosby “went there†on Michael Eric Dyson?
It happened around the middle of May. You may have heard about it.
Cosby was in the nation’s capital, holding a forum at the University of the District of Columbia. The forum is one of nearly a couple of dozen Cosby has held with black audiences since 2004, when he supposedly went off on poor black folks during a speech “celebrating†the 50th anniversary of the Brown vs. Board of Education Supreme Court ruling.
Actually, Cosby didn’t go off on poor black folks in general. He went off, specifically, on the ones he clearly identified as “not holding up their end of the bargain†when it comes to taking advantage of educational opportunities.
This was more than some black liberals could bear. Dyson, a professor a the University of Pennsylvania, is one of them. Dyson rushed a book into print called “Is Bill Cosby Right? (Or Has The Black Middle Class Lost Its Mind?)" — in which the author finds Cosby guilty of insufficient genuflection when the words “poor black folks†are mentioned.
Since then, there has been a clash of ideas between Cosby and Dyson not seen since W.E.B. DuBois and Marcus Garvey went at it back in the 1920s (Except that neither Cosby nor Dyson has called the other a traitor to the race yet, which DuBois and Garvey did with gleeful regularity.). Chicago Tribune columnist Clarence Page described what happened last month at UDC in what was the latest clash of ideas between Cosby and Dyson.
“(A) heckler ... started shouting from the audience. He derided Mr. Cosby’s ‘watered-down dialogue’ and demanded answers to ... Dyson’s highly publicized book ... That’s when Mr. Cosby lost his cool. (He) jumped off the stage ... and raced up the aisle to loom over his somewhat astonished questioner.â€
Page wrote that Cosby said he was sick of people like the heckler and Dyson.
Later, according to Page, Cosby “went there†on Dyson by questioning the latter’s choice to teach at a ritzy, predominantly white, Ivy League school as opposed to, say, the more working-class, predominantly black UDC.
“And how much does it cost to go there?†Page quoted Cosby as asking about the University of Pennsylvania. “How many black students do they have at Penn?†Page said Cosby told him and another journalist he’d start listening to Dyson when Dyson starts teaching at UDC or a similar school.
I’ll go Cosby one better: why isn’t Dyson teaching in one of the inner-city black high schools across the nation that desperately need good black male teachers?
In his book, Dyson lamented the absence of resources, funding and good teachers at predominantly black schools in poor black neighborhoods throughout the country. I’ll assume Dyson is a good teacher. So why’s he teaching at Penn and not at a predominantly black inner-city school in Philadelphia? Or at Baltimore’s Frederick Douglass High School, which is failing so miserably that state officials wanted to take it over?
I guess Cosby’s saying that if Dyson wants to start talking the talk, he’d better start walking the walk. Cosby didn’t say anything in 2004 that black folks hadn’t said previously. According to Benjamin Karim, a former assistant to Malcolm X, his mentor said it back in the 1960s.
In his book “Remembering Malcolm,†Karim said that one day he, Malcolm and some others were standing outside a black housing project. Malcolm asked how many reference books and dictionaries they’d expect to find if they went to each apartment in the project.
“Enough to fill the trunk of this car?†Malcolm asked. “How about a suitcase?â€
Malcolm was saying, long before Cosby said it, that being black and poor didn’t absolve poor black folks of their responsibility to “hold up their end of the bargain†in education. If there are no reference books, dictionaries and other reading material in poor black homes, then who’s to blame?
What’s to stop the poorest black parents from reading to their pre-school children every day? What’s to stop poor black parents from sending their kids to free public libraries and having them read a book per week? And writing a book report on it?
The answer is, "Not a darned thing." Saying you can’t is an excuse.
Cosby and I were both in the service, so we may remember what our basic training drill sergeants had to say about excuses.
Everybody has one, and they all stink.
__._,_.___
