Black People : What Are We Going To Do About Our Issues And Problems?

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  1. chuck

    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Good morning, posters...

    But, I must offer an apology, since I should've read more closely those comments on the source of the 'baggy pants' crap, as well have to agree to disagree, with some (if not all) of what is believed, since my take is just the opposite of their's...

    If there is one thing even a Jewish acquaintance of mine said and wrote as well as I have found to be true?

    Fine and well to just air an opinion:

    I seek to air a better informed one!

    More to the point:

    Folk can just choose to react to the way things are?

    I try to respond to what I feel and think is another challenge...

    The point:

    That whole baggy pants stuff is just a reflection of how some (not all) of today's young people have regressed and retreated back to mere social rebellion as a right of passage, i. e., them perceving and conceiving of themselvs as another self interest group, whereas their cynicism and fatalism about the way things misleads them to also presume and assume that justifies anything and everything they do, up to and including preying on their own people to make it or just to survive, which is what makes them a part of the problem, rather than be a reflection of past generations of young people--from those young Freedom riders--whose sit ins and suchlike ala civil disobedience against those injust laws and suchlike which reflected the era of segregation--as well as those young blacks who were a part of the black student protests against police brutality etc. after the Urban Rebellions--who ushered in a short lived but undeniable new right of passage--as in--that coming of age also meant being a part of the solution...

    Otherwise the hyping of today's 'street life' subculture lifestyle etc. , by a white capitalist controlled mass media, isn't exclusively and solely a means to an end, as in--for some unethical yuppies and nouveaus to make a lot of easy and fast as well as quick bucks, but also something I consider a conscious choice to undermine the one and prop up the other option, as regards today's sometimes woefully unenlightened and/or uninformed young people of color in general...

    Simply put?

    Gangsta rap and the demented mindset it promotes are forms of cultural and social genocide...

    So never mind just how many bored and boring young mainstream oriented white people listen to it--by the cd.s-- and/or all of the rest:

    It's negative impact on our young folk was and is a continuing concern and worries my greatly...

    The mere attention some of those aformentioned black entertainers etc. get because of their antics ad naseum is one thing:

    The fact too many of its nonwhite devotees aren't seriously considering if that is a good or bad thing is quite another...

    Instead:

    What the Last (Black) Poets once said?

    "And we're loved when we're ignorant..."

    Long overdue to quit expecting the main exploiters of our people--including white media execs--to just change their 'wicked wicked' ways:

    And long overdue for us to make a clear distinction, i.e., between fantasy trips, as opposed to heeding the reality checks which black on black youth violence etc. had already been giving me, way back since the eighties...

    After all:

    That's when that baggy pants craze moved from from the jail cells and/or lockdowns--to (as Huey Newton might also say) minimum security-- etc.

    Anyway...

    Another FYI...

    Take care...

    Peace...
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  2. jamesfrmphilly

    jamesfrmphilly going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    who knew?

    :SuN033:it's all because of baggy pants.....
     
  3. chuck

    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    When one exposes their rear ends in public, that might not always attract the sort of attention they were expecting...

    :qqb005:

    I was taught to cover (and protect) my own...

    FYI...

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    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Foks have been discussing and debate about this new jack 'street life' crap since the eighties:

    It is hardly new to me and you can't claim it's news to you either!

    :SuN020:

    So, again:

    'Back to life, back to reality!'

    FYI...

    :SuN044:
     
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    Kamau47 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I seem to attract that kind of attention when I walk through a white neighborhood, a store, a gas station, etc. and my pants are not baggy.
     
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    yo.....

    :qqb010: maybe it's that big butte bulls eye on your back?
     
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    Why focus on people you can't change. I say let them embarrass themselves.
     
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    You know, my son wears his pants baggy; I decided that when he and I speak to one another to ignore the hell out of it because it irritates me so. So when we talk, we talk about life, what he's up to, how's he's doing in school and what new "Lil baby" he's trying to spit game to. I've watched him dress for a job interview and I have noticed that the boy knows what a belt is. lol I also laugh as we pass little old ladies that demand, in front of me that he pull them up. Since I have taught him to respect those little old ladies, I laugh as he pulls them up, and then let them sag again after we have passed. I think baggy pants became a problem when everyone told them to pull them up. It's a form of self expression and or rebellion.Hopefully we have raised them in a way that one day they'll pass a mirror, and see for themselves how ridiculous they look. Regardless of how despicable they look, I lick mental shots at anyone who dare judge their character for it. They are our children and they will reflect what we have taught them( Dear God) if not now, then someday. I do worry though when the pants that are sagging belong to the behind of a forty year old man, that's my que, to run!
    BLESS!
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  9. chuck

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    Nothing new or news about that either...

    But certain types of behavior justify certain types of people...

    And others don't!

    Otherwise I try to associate with those who exibit the same sort of respect I do likewise...

    I don't waste my time etc. being in places and spaces where folks don't!

    FYI...
     
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    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Yes...

    As the announcer guy would say:

    "In a world" where we're just judged as individuals?

    But...

    We continue to live in one whereas any screwup by one of our own leads some folks to say (or write):

    "They're all alike" anyhow!

    Then, too, it's a given we have to make a clear distinction, as in--between those who don't have a clue--and those who do...

    Yes...

    Appearances only do matter so much and to some people...

    But, my point was and is to get others, including to young teens and young adults to whom all of the above is new to all of this, to realize the true source of that sort of b. s.:

    Then some will have to check immediate family members, etc. when they resort to the same crap, feeling they're 'cool' --(squares really)-- when they too need to know and understand that ignorance ain't bliss--when it comes to how even minor clashes with hypocritical and deceitful beat cops etc., can and does lead to jail time, etc., and bound to cut short anybody's dreams and schemes...

    FYI...
     
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