Black People : What are we doing and why are we here?

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  1. NNQueen

    NNQueen going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Many of you know that I'm an older sister who grew up in the 1960s. I'm what is popularly referred to as a "baby boomer". I and others like me know from first hand experience what it was like to live and thrive in an all-Black community. Black schools, churches, and businesses.

    Without a doubt things are far different these days since integration became legal in this country and as many of us know, not all that much better. It's true that in many ways, it seems that things have gotten worse than what we ever thought they could since people of different races were allowed to co-mix and co-mingle together.

    Much of our discussion here has been about Black people unifying and becoming more cohesive as a group. One reason for this is because those of us who know the difference, recognize that Black people are in some serious trouble as a group if we continue to live the way that we currently do. But what will unity really bring us in terms of advantages and are there any possible disadvantages for us if that happens?

    There are different movements that focus on Black people and our liberation, so to speak. Some of us think that we can liberate ourselves while still living in a "white man's" world. Others believe in total isolation from the oppressors. Realistically though, in today's modern world, what can Black people do to crush and destroy this sense that many of us have of efforts by some to bring us to a point of extinction as a group?

    Have we waited too long to wake up and is it too late? Has our destiny been determined by our lack of knowledge and the absence of our combative behavior? Do we honestly have the tools and proper resources to change the course of the tide that appears to be moving against us?

    These are just a few questions that I'm posing for us to think about as we enter, once again, a new year -- 2005!

    Peace and blessings sisters and brothers...

    Queenie :spinstar:
     
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    jamesfrmphilly going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    all the ingredients are in place.
    a positive revolution is possible.
    all that's needed is a catalyst, a match, a charismatic leader.
     
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    Excellent questions Sister! I hope all will come together to put their views in. These are some very serious questions if we want to challenge the odds that are against us.

    I think unity will bring us advantage by creating a spiritual force so powerful, that the challenge to oppose our demands would be detrimental to the world.
    I feel like white supremacy is afraid of us banding together because they know of the many great minds we have. And this could be the sole reason why they worked so hard to destroy or history. leaving us with a void of selfknowledge. Our ability to create something from nothing is a force to reckon with by itself.

    Our disadvantage to uniting might bring about greed and a fierce determination to adopt more of the ways of the white man. Some might want to control all the people and we may become like our oppressors toward other races. .

    Isolating ourselves isn't possible in a world of white supremacy and I fear that it is very dangerous to do so as well. It would give the outsider the advantage of destroying us all at one time. If we are spreaded throught out the world there could always be the hope that others will come to aide us in the event of an attack. We can liberate ourselves while still in the white mans house. They have many tools laying about for us, but we take it for granted. We also have insider experience to what they are up too.


    As long as we can still breathe air into our lungs, it is never to late, but we can't just sit around and talk about it, We have to be about it!

    Thats how I view it!
     
  4. Radical Faith

    Radical Faith Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Outstanding question sister

    This question should be asked every year. Sister I believe our success as a people starts with the African American family. We as a people still are not doing the little things that we take for grant. Our focus is too broad we need to look inward. To me we need to start rebuilding the African American family. This can only be done when men step up and take their God given place as men. With no disrespect to the sisters but men should be the leaders and heads of families. Our values, morality and family structure is out of order. Not every man can be a spokesmen for a cause or a revolutionary or a visionary for our people in mass but he can be these things to his family. We must rededicate ourselves to the African American family. Once we straighten that out the rest will fall in place.


    Peace

    Radical Faith
     
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    in fact we as people are on time to make a move upswing as people
    if joint together we are mindfully powerful and can make major changes
    this need is so high as i witness the depth of our people in the 60's
    our family structure need to be more stable so we can defind other needs
    to end such a heavy struggle & depression we facing today , unity will bring
    us the power to be heard and a force to notice surely this why the other race
    work so hard to hold us at bay because the advantage we would have

    the disadvantage of us coming as an group is within selfs , such as greed
    we have to learn to love our people and their views .

    Isolation is why we so far behind and down today we can't continue this
    and rise no way , but to bond together as people we can walk on white
    supremacy they truely afraid of us coming together as a whole group.

    We as people haven't waited to long time and the right core is now to wake up
    set forth a movement to defeat our bondage to the society of today's white
    supremacy.
     
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    When there is a will there is a way. It is the will that we as a people are lacking. No, it is not too late and yes, we have the resources and the social infrastructure to make a better future for us. We still live in black neighborhoods and which have big areas of unused business infrastructure that could be brought to life with black entrepreneurships we still have black higher education, and we still have plenty of money to finance our future only if we spend it on our own black business culture, and we have churches and secular organizations that could change the mindset from dependency to self sufficiency. It's all about what our community goals are.

    It’s a mental condition we must break for our own self preservation.


    Good post sista!
     
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    AMEN!


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    There is an old question that asks,

    ..is our collective complacency, a mental illness, or a form of mind control?

    As far as tools, immediately after slavery we had actually nothing but the rags on our backs, and maybe some land we labor bartered to sharecrop food and shelter, but real nothing, however within only 40 years we achieved a level of scholarship and industrial skills that so enraged Whites with jealousy that they formed an organization called the Klu Klux Klan.
    In only 30 years after that we designed and created over 600 inventions, many the basis of what is known as the industrial revolution, and put Black men in political office without the right to vote.
    only a few 40 years later a young portly brother from Jamaica blessed the planet with the capacity to unify those of African descent on every continent were we lived, during a time of segregation, and colonization.
    Now this was doone without the gadgets we claim give us a modern lifestyle, like television, jet planes, computers, cell phones, ipods, blackberies, or cable or internet.

    When one looks at that distant past, and then looks at the Black community now, one must understand that we have beeen made comfortable and pacified so that as James Bldwin said when the fire comes next time, not only will we not see it coming but we won't remember how to put it out.
    Garvey had risked life and limb to print in secret, revelations and methodologies of Community development and upliftment of the race in all of the languages under which we were colonized at the time, but look at the internet today!

    How many working, and updated websites are seriously dealing with these issues on a regular basis?
    regardless of state?

    One would assume that anyone of African descent over 18 and some sort of job or other income coud easily turn on their computer, connect their cable and internet, and simply goto google or yahoo or any doggone search engine and find tons of websites to donate funds to;
    dealing with Afrocentric principals and cultural edification,
    Black community development, and upliftment,
    Pan African investment, and emergency relief COMING FROM US,
    Safe Haven programs for youth that have fallen through the cracks,
    national or statewide job exchanges for brothers and sisters with felonies,
    Black community based orgsnizations to assist those who are in foreclosure or even homelss and other pressing concerns,

    but such sites are few and far between
    and out of the many chats and discussion boards in the Black community online, this and Assata's site are the only ones that have the courage and audacity of liberation to discuss such matters.

    Grass roots efforts become difficult as the economy slides into anihilation, men drop out of the mentoring programs, we have to volunteer our own funds when we work at the soup kitchens, we have to contribute at times stationary and other things when we work at the state senators office or the city councilman's office, yes there are sacrifices as the economy declines,
    and forming emergency community block meetings, don't expect for assistance, make sure you have enough money to educate and feed everyone present,
    but lets be clear

    we were enslaved enmasse and rather then working isolated as in a vaccum from state to state at this critical financial times we really need a national collective network.
     
  9. chuck

    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Do keep in mind that I'm writing and speaking from the perspective of one individual and don't claim or say otherwise...

    After having said and written that:

    I too have to contrast who I am or consider myself to be with those who aren't even trying to do more than just go along to get along with whatever is acceptable or fashionable or popular at the moment...

    They are sometimes the hard to deny reality checks/wake up calls we too have to cope and deal with 24/7...

    We can write and speak and post about folk who are bad reflections of self esteem/social/substance abuse/mental problems etc. all that we choose to:

    Though we can't just talk our means and ways out of this:

    And if some here truly intend to make a difference it kinda sorta might well have to be on the 'tough love' side...

    Are you and others prepared to take the heat etc. from people who don't feek or think they need or should want to change (but we know and understand they need and should want to anyway)?

    Some may not actually be drug addicts:

    This nation's overly materialistic take on life etc. leads to some of our folk acting and reacting like junkies needing another fix anyhow...

    Simply put:

    This nation's so called way of life did and does sicken the best of us (let alone the worse off)...

    Doing without is something we usually associate with adversity...

    Not necessity...

    Now it is necessary for more than our very survival:

    Also for our sake of our very souls...

    Our credibility...

    Our humanity...

    We too are a part of another minority--that five per cent of the world's people--who consume 95 per cent of the worlds resources etc.

    So-- consider how some refugees in Darfur camps--who literally live from food shipment to food shipment-- might feel and think about us--seeing pictures of obese people-- in our midst--too...

    Etc., etc., etc.

    Some write and speak about hating whitey because their ancestors etc. got taken away from Mother Africa:

    Flashforward and how shall we exibit love towards her other children?

    So let's truly keep it real...

    And later for the ill will...

    Even Obama is just one man...

    So when it comes to him:

    Everybody just needs to chill...

    Anyway it's like that:

    And that's the way it is...

    Later...

    Peace...
     
  10. Precise Allah

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    Peace to the Gods, Earths and positive people of the Universe!

    The only thing we cannot recover from is a physical death. So as long as you still have breath in your body it is not too late. Those who have knowledge will always determine the movement of those without. This is why the righteous level the playing field by teaching what we know to those who don't know. Yes we have all we need to show and prove that we are the suns and daughters of the most high. All that needs to happen is for those who don't know and those who don't do to listen and learn from those who have the answers. The black man is God, the black woman is Earth and the babies are the greatest.

    Peace
    Precise Infinite Peace Allah
     
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