Pan Africanism : WHAT ARE AFRICAN AMERICANS OBLIGATIONS TO THE RECOVERY AND RECONSTRUCTION OF AFRICA??

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  1. Isaiah

    Isaiah Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I have heard a lot ideas regarding the question of what my personal obligation is to the Motherland, but I remain unclear... Perhaps, it is the clutter of all the information I've received from AFrican historians and analysts... I remain unclear as to how I could best help the Motherland to recapture her old greatness...

    Is it a matter of bringing my professiona and technical skills to the Continent, or simply mailing a check to the nearest embassy??? Is it visiting the continent on vacation, or doing as a friend of mine has done, adopting a child in an AFrican village??? It would be great if someone could explain these things to our people, because I think we'd see more of us attempting to make a contribution to the uplift of the Contintent...

    For example, I do make monetary contributions to a number of organizations, all of which are AFrican Diasporan... Would that I knew how to fit an African Continental organization into that picture... For example, where are the AFrican Lobby Groups, like the Jewish AIPAC??? The AIPAC is responsible for more money being spent on a country the size of Brooklyn, than that spent on the largest continent in the world... So much could be achieved if things were made clearer, and African people were better organized...

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    I find it interesting that no one, particularly from the continent, has seen fit to address this question... I think it is important because I think African Americans can, and will, follow proper guidance on this issue...

    I think Contnentals are, to a great degree, correct when they say that Africa is NOT first and foremost on the minds of African Americans and African Diasporans... We all have a great many of our own problems, and everyone looks out for number one... Some years ago, Dikembe Mutuombo found it extraordinarily difficult to raise money from among his basketball playing Brothers for the hospital he wanted to build in Senegal... He was puzzled by their attitudes... I heard Mario Elie say that we have our own problems in the United States, so why would we want to contribute to the building of a hospital in Senegal... Painful stuff, man - in addition to being extremely ignorant coming from an African American of Haitian background...

    But we cannot ignore Elie's attitude, because I believe most of us African Americans have it... We need some guidance as to WHAT it is we american-born Africans can do - should do - to bring some love to the Motherland. She is under such great assault - a Tsunami-like death toll takes place on the continent every MONTH - that we have to wake up, and realize that if we don't do something to ease here distress, she will be completely in the hands of whites and arabs in like another 20-25 years... Some suggestions as to what we can do to STOP that eventuality???



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  3. militant

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    As painful as this may sound, Mario Elie does have a point that cannot be denied. Its really a balancing act between chosing to help africans in Americans and africans in Africa. In the shortage of resources one has to look at the situation strategically and define an approach:
    1) Do we invest in trying to increase the captial base in general to overcome shortage of resources
    2) Do we invest in trying to help the african americans
    3) Do we invest in Africa.
    The first approach is the most plausible approach, however it only loses precedence if lives are in danger if the other two approaches are not taken. Moreover, as long as ignoring approach number three does not leave out the chance of significant reduction of deaths in africa, then a pursuit of approach 2 is closely tied to approach 1. Its all about utility. What will be the best for black people in general. And at the moment, though I am an african, I will have to admit that the returns on investment by investing in African Americans could be better on the long run than that made by investing in a hospital in Senegal. The problem of Africa is really about resource management.
     
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    The Man in the Mirror

    Despite the obvious dangers we owe it to the ancestors [and their mutilated and murdered siblings] to very intelligently organise our families, communities and even countries for our collective best interest.

    The crux of our problem in the USA and the rest of the Diaspora is that most of us [especially our dysfunctional elite] are still trying to distance ourselves from our African ethnicity...

    While we’re arguing and debating this point, the other elite’s intelligentsia’s are taking care of business in Asia [China, Japan, India and Korea] with even the Semites trying [which is why the USA smashed Iraq and are going to do the same to Iran].

    Don’t you think it is bizarre that we are aspiring to be the only ethnicity on the Planet to collectively advance without our own elite’s guidance and support; with many of us expecting our lower echelons with their limited education and experience to deduce or intuit a reasonable way forward, whereas all the other ethnicities utilise their most brilliant intelligentsia for this strategically vital function.
     
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    I think most African Americans find it hard to identify or help Africa because:

    1. They've never been to Africa.
    2. They don't know anyone directly from Africa.
    3. They see the corrupt nature of African leaders and they figure "why should I help a continent that will not help itself".

    Hell, most African Americans won't do what it takes to better our situation here in America because they feel the only way to advance is to look out for yourself. I had a dissagreement the other day with a brotha who feels that it really doesn't matter what black people do (media portrayal of ourselves, eating right, economically etc.) as long as we look out for ourselves, because everything else is pretty much hopeless. It's hard for people to relocate, send money and actually care about a place and people that they never met or never talk to. I'm not saying it's right, but to really understand what's at stake, you have to open your eyes and see what's going on around the world. You have to break away from American type thinking and look at the big picture. Now, what percentage of our people actually do that?


    Man, I got totally away from the question. Sorry. I think African Americans have an obligation to some extent. We are really misplaced in this world, so to say that ALL African Americans owe Africa may be hard, but I think we as people have to understand that our natural place is not in America. If African Americans and Africans shared a common goal to uplift black people world-wide, it would be great. Since neither side really gets anything from the other, it's pretty hard to form some type of bond. I think that would be a big improvement, but both sides have to work together to reconnect what has been seperate for so many years. I think if it was true and known that all African Americans had dual citizenship to a stable African country, then maybe that would give African Americans a reason to try and repatriate. Many black people see the problems that Afirca has and in their mind they are actually happy to be an American. If Africa was stable and on it's feet, more black people would want to identify with it. Until then, we can't expect narrow-minded people to want to try and build up something, when they can live in the white man's house that's already built and thriving. Unfortunately, we're lazy like that.
     
  6. militant

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    You said it more than I could put it. Its basically about Continental Africans not seeing this as african americans not caring for africa but rather seeing this as human Nature. We go the path of least resistance. At the mo, it seems holding on to America, with all its blatant prejudices to African Americans is better than going back home to Africa. Hell even African immigrants and especially their children try to distance themselves from Africa. I think it will take the efforts of a visionary few to see that the missing piece in achieving a unified black people is a prosperous africa. Then you will see a return to home of many africans in diaspora in America, Brazil, Haiti, Cuba, Jamaica, Europe. I mean why suffer racism in America when you could live a better life without racism in Africa. But this still remains a dream. And hopefully the efforts of a visionary few can bring this about.
     
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    I agree with you. The problem is how to get the elite to take the forefront in the battle.
     
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    Brother, with what Africa is enduring at the moment, I find this statement difficult to digest... That does not mean I think it is wrong, just not easy to swallow... It is as if you are suggesting that there is no hope for our people on the continent, so we must turn our eyes away from her to a more hopeful scenario... Man, I find that unfathomable... Great suggestions, though, and food for a lot of thought...

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    Brother Orisons, DEEP, as always...

    Paraphrasing the Godfather of Soul, James Brown, we've go to use just what we've got to get just what we want... We don't have any kind of choice... Our elite is so de-cultured and detached and dissociated from us, that we have to show them the way... Fact is, brother, that is how it has always been in our community - the despised, dispossessed, and disinherited always had to lead the way, and now is no different...

    If we are smart down under, we can devise our plans, and have the idiotic elite carry it out with their superior contacts and resources...

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  10. militant

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    I hear you and I am not suggesting that at all. I am sugggesting that, the current cash at hand afford better return on Investment if it was invested in producing more black elite than if it was used say in Africa by vitrue of the fact that it wont be enough to turn africa around. However, that does not mean we should ignore Africa. We need to push for policy change in Africa. I believe Africa doesnt need much cash. I believe we can make her stand on own her two feets. I have been trying to write AnAfrican with regards to suggestions on how to tackle the problem of Africa. However I have been abit lazy and will get back to him as soon as possible. I was thinking applying the Principles set forth by the economist Hernando De Soto which can be found in the links below:
    http://www.opportunity.org/site/pp.asp?c=7oIDLROyGqF&b=667883
    http://reason.com/0105/fe.hs.citadels.shtml

    With the use these principles, we will not need africans begging at the feet of G8 for aid. Or the ridicule by the likes of Gerdoff who are pimping the image of Africans for album Sales, and to mudsling at Africa's image in disguise for pity.
    I will discuss with AnAfrican and whoever wants to be inolved, how to define the capital that Africa has and how we can form an Action Committee. Like I said, what we need here is to think strategically. If we feel that sending money is going to solve the problem, then fine. However, If we can come together, as diapsora and form action Committees to solve the problems. All are welcome to join!! At the moment the best path is spending cash here and investing in changing the policies in Africa to follow the principles of Hernando De Soto.
     
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