Black People Politics : What America sees...

ogoun

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"It is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."

Learn some history girl.
Sanders or Warren platforms only go back to, oh say about the 1965 America status quo.
 

willa

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"It is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."

Learn some history girl.
Sanders or Warren platforms only go back to, oh say about the 1965 America status quo.
A Socialist America. Better put in your food storage. Think about it, the management of a socialist society will be controlled by analytics and algorithms no more Constitution. Capitalism strives to give people what they want guarded by the Constitution.

Artificial Intelligence will be the system for law in our new Socialist country. Rule by surveillance and censoring political heads. China is already doing this.

Access to food and medical help will be controlled. Think about how Socialism is doing for Canada.

Did everyone know that Google wants access to our personal data. Quantum computing supremacy is claimed by Google. Why does that panic so many people? Because what would normally take 50 Trillion hours is done in 30 seconds. We have turned a corner for our future. We were using 4 G technology and now we are moving already to 5 G. This is facial mapping for recognition of individual citizens en mass for one.

Google is helping China with Artificial Intelligence. Why because they want information on every person in the earth to build A.I. with Quantum Computing.

The strength of this country for our individual freedom is our Constitution. Socialism would dismantle that. Already our 2nd Amendment has been threatened, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms."

No more "freedom of speech" on college campuses, unless it goes along with the politics of the college. So are we getting the truth?
 

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Sis. willa, help me. I see your talking points in favor of #45 and against socialism. I get that. But what I am having difficulty with is this nagging question, are you simply about party politics or does it ever matter to you, when you crush the Ds and uplift the Rs, the character of the individual who is the current resident in the WH?

I get that you believe that his policies are MAGA. I might disagree but that's neither here nor there. Is there ever a line that #45 would cross that would not sit well with you? What would he have to do? Do you think he's racist? At the risk of sounding prissy and old-fashioned, what about his use of foul language in public--not on WH tapes, but public venues. Does his overt and frequent name calling meant to be offensive and planting seeds of hate toward people he doesn't like or who he perceives that don't like him, bother you at all? Does all of this cancel out, because you believe he's a "good" president?

By the way, I chuckle a bit reading how you describe Schumer and Pelosi. True, Schumer can wear a mean looking scowl on his face, but I have never thought it was because he was melting down. Upset? Yeah, but no more than what I've seen #45 do, right? But I laugh too when I recall watching the Rs pouting dramatically in front of the cameras, claiming that they were locked out of a Congressional hearing (when some of them weren't) and storming into the room and eating pizza. Can you say kids on the playground? Matt Gaetz reminds me of Alfalfa in Spanky and Our Gang. Talk about a piece of work. lol

What's meant to be taken seriously and once was, regardless of the politics, is now comical, dramatic and sad. All while the Feds are trying to regulate interest rates, as another market crash is predicted to happen and one that is far worse than in 2008. Big banks will fail again, without being bailed out this time, causing worldwide devastation. All while the national debt keeps rising, the wealthy get richer and the working class get poorer. Who will be stuck or hurt worse by this mess? I'll give you one guess. lol

Americans are successfully distracted. All the news is focusing on is the unprecedented behavior of this president, while the country is in a state of disrepair. All by design you think?
 

willa

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Sis. willa, help me. I see your talking points in favor of #45 and against socialism. I get that. But what I am having difficulty with is this nagging question, are you simply about party politics or does it ever matter to you, when you crush the Ds and uplift the Rs, the character of the individual who is the current resident in the WH?

I get that you believe that his policies are MAGA. I might disagree but that's neither here nor there. Is there ever a line that #45 would cross that would not sit well with you? What would he have to do? Do you think he's racist? At the risk of sounding prissy and old-fashioned, what about his use of foul language in public--not on WH tapes, but public venues. Does his overt and frequent name calling meant to be offensive and planting seeds of hate toward people he doesn't like or who he perceives that don't like him, bother you at all? Does all of this cancel out, because you believe he's a "good" president?

By the way, I chuckle a bit reading how you describe Schumer and Pelosi. True, Schumer can wear a mean looking scowl on his face, but I have never thought it was because he was melting down. Upset? Yeah, but no more than what I've seen #45 do, right? But I laugh too when I recall watching the Rs pouting dramatically in front of the cameras, claiming that they were locked out of a Congressional hearing (when some of them weren't) and storming into the room and eating pizza. Can you say kids on the playground? Matt Gaetz reminds me of Alfalfa in Spanky and Our Gang. Talk about a piece of work. lol

What's meant to be taken seriously and once was, regardless of the politics, is now comical, dramatic and sad. All while the Feds are trying to regulate interest rates, as another market crash is predicted to happen and one that is far worse than in 2008. Big banks will fail again, without being bailed out this time, causing worldwide devastation. All while the national debt keeps rising, the wealthy get richer and the working class get poorer. Who will be stuck or hurt worse by this mess? I'll give you one guess. lol

Americans are successfully distracted. All the news is focusing on is the unprecedented behavior of this president, while the country is in a state of disrepair. All by design you think?
Hi dear Queenie :). You asked me some questions so I will answer honestly. Actually, those are my words. This is what I have discovered. I've mentioned things here and there stating a fact as I came across it. You mentioned how #45 is against Socialism and would fight against it. Okay. Maybe in compare contrast let's take a look at a Bernie Sanders for President. He said he is going to "raise everybody's taxes to 70%." He hangs his gavel on "Scandinavia" as a Model. The people of the Nation States of Scandinavia are taxed around 68%. Last I heard there are housing shortages and small apartments that have a waiting list. Oh I forgot, my saying that according to Bernie would make me "greedy." I look at it as having a little of my own money to manage.

So now Warren. She is going to tax everyone especially the "Giant Corporations." Common sense -- They are just going to move out of the country. There goes their taxes with them we were getting before and there goes the jobs and our futures with them. She would undo the economy we have achieved, dismantle it. Health, Education and Wellbeing of citizens is reflected with that nation being able to pay for it. Name me a wealthy Socialist Nation. As it is, we are told our Social Security will be running out in 15 years. Now what will the retired, older and infirm citizens do?

No, I am not for Trumps calling names. It seems he can't help himself. Obviously he is not a politician or he would have a smooth narrative. So for the half of America that is voting for him, it is a matter of the tasks getting done. For instance Trump is no longer doing other people's nation building. He is bringing the money home. And if we are needed to assist in helping wealthy nations with money in costs, as most of the Middle East is wealthy, then he will ask for some money to repay costs. And he is asking those countries that owe us money to start making payments to us. They are -- without resentment. That means our Social Security can last longer than the previous calculations of 15 years to go.

I listened to Hans Rosling graphs and talk, the bottom line is a country moves ahead for the people equal to it's wealth. So the question is, Do Socialist countries take people out of poverty or create a spartan life style having little for them? I mentioned Canada, a modern Socialist nation to the north. Their people have to come to this country for specialized surgeries and medicines, like Novocain to have teeth worked on. It has to be a serious procedure or they don't get it because they don't have enough money.

See I don't know why when people tell us that a country claims to have bread on every table and it is then reported that is all they've got is bread and their people are trying to make their way to the States because they believe they will have a better life here, why don't we believe them?

So when a nation is Socialist and the government makes sure that it is a "level playing field and the wage earner gives 70 percent to taxes... who does that help, except make everyone waiting their turn at the market for what ever the government market has for them to eat. Venezuela eating dogs. Well except for the government leaders who somehow can get ahold of what they want.

Where as we were giving billions of dollars to people who hate us like Iran, "Death to America!" Trump knows what my mother told me when I gave her watch with tiny diamonds on it to my girlfriend at nine or so."You can't buy friendship." Iran still hates us.

You asked, do I think Trump is a racist? So I went to see what racist thing he was doing. Is this racist or needful for the protection of our people? He placed a ban on foreign Muslims from immigrating here. Racist or protective? Our experience with that, they were not for assimilating into our laws. We say, No Sheria laws which challenge ours laws. Like genital mutilation, killing one's daughters for giggling over a cute non Muslim boy, depriving women of their equal rights. etc. It doesn't seem they want to come here because they love our Constitution. They want us to change to their ideology. Why come?

Trump told four women of color -- before telling us what is so bad about us and what we should be doing, they "should go back to their own countries or districts and improve there first." Meaning, if that was a great improvement there we might feel more like listening from the example. Then, he has invited Black leaders into the White House to hear what their concerns are.

Trump made Black History Month an event at the White House. I think we can convict Trump of not being a racist with the evidence. Alveda King says she knows his heart to be in the right place for Black citizens. I better end here -- for now. Love Ya, Willa
 

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A little more conversation Queenie? A couple points you mentioned, the oncoming predicted bank crash... I question what will happen sooner, the dismantling of our booming economy by Socialists, or something predicted down the the way for some reason?

What do you think Queenie, I watch the news continually because the prophesies say we are going to experience perilous times. So you might see me running around lifting up the window shades taking a look outside to determine if I can see it coming, and yes I do. One prophesy I heard is "People will begin running from state to state when the U.S breaks like a pot." We are already broken in two, between the Ds and the Rs. There are TV news commentary hosts that are stating the possibility of a civil war.

I liken myself to a sensible person, I went out and bought a picture of Jesus, heh heh. Because I'm thinking that is where the safety is, staying close to the Lord. So when I'm walking by I will have comments, (but respectfully).

People are already running out of California by the thousands and that goes for Chicago, New Mexico and Arizona borders. My thoughts are start getting prepared, I've said food storage a dozen times. Remember there are lots of reasons, rolling blackouts -- good books - no TV; floods, we've already seen these things this last year. I think be prepared is a good saying. Put a nice blanket in the car maybe with a flashlight -- and snacks. Okay, I'm resisting paranoia now. :rain:
 

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A little more conversation Queenie? A couple points you mentioned, the oncoming predicted bank crash... I question what will happen sooner, the dismantling of our booming economy by Socialists, or something predicted down the the way for some reason?

What do you think Queenie, I watch the news continually because the prophesies say we are going to experience perilous times. So you might see me running around lifting up the window shades taking a look outside to determine if I can see it coming, and yes I do. One prophesy I heard is "People will begin running from state to state when the U.S breaks like a pot." We are already broken in two, between the Ds and the Rs. There are TV news commentary hosts that are stating the possibility of a civil war.

I liken myself to a sensible person, I went out and bought a picture of Jesus, heh heh. Because I'm thinking that is where the safety is, staying close to the Lord. So when I'm walking by I will have comments, (but respectfully).

People are already running out of California by the thousands and that goes for Chicago, New Mexico and Arizona borders. My thoughts are start getting prepared, I've said food storage a dozen times. Remember there are lots of reasons, rolling blackouts -- good books - no TV; floods, we've already seen these things this last year. I think be prepared is a good saying. Put a nice blanket in the car maybe with a flashlight -- and snacks. Okay, I'm resisting paranoia now. :rain:
Fake capitalism

Cleaned-up Capitalism

The broader point here is that leading “capitalists” are often nothing of the sort, particularly when they use political influence to carve out monopolies.

That’s neither capitalism nor socialism. It is something completely different: crony capitalism, corporatism, corporate statism—the terms vary. It promotes wealth concentration that leads to economic stagnation, political instability and the current discontent… which might bring real socialism.

So if you fear socialism, the best way to stop it is to clean up capitalism.

That means stop letting government policy favor large, influential companies. Let everyone compete on an equal footing, and give consumers and workers freedom to choose what they want.
 

ogoun

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Aah, the beauty of the 'two' party system of 'democracy'.

"The rich continue to get richer, the rest of us, not so much. For all of the claims of political dysfunction, when it comes to bailouts and tax cuts, wars and weaponry and policing and surveillance, these opposition parties can be counted on to come together to overcome their differences. Likewise, when it comes to the public interest, partisan differences are put forward to explain why nothing is possible.'....................Read the essay here:

It matters little to me what kind of bling you wear whether it's made of gold, stainless steel or bands of iron. They are all chains serving the same function as chains have always done.
And I won't be bound by chains of any kind.
 

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There was a lot of word chewing in the article and I am more of a simpler view of things. For instance, a nation is either capitalist or socialist. The bottom line socialist is there is no where to go, no climb, now way out because the government is boss and your paycheck is determined. With capitalism I am my own creation. I have the freedom to fail with a business, and if I do, then I can come back and start another. Am I talking about a huge corporation? Not to begin with. I can take my idea and start small. Maybe it's pony rides at three minutes a turn for three dollars. That ought to take care of insurance, hay and one employee to make sure everything is going safely. If I have five ponys going at the same time, thats $15 dollars for three min. In an hour how much would I make and if I stayed an eight hour day, did I just make over $1000 dollars? I think I come out ahead, times a five day week.

Wouldn't a Socialist president take $700 dollars of my thousand? How am I going to feed my ponies?

From there I can add a carousel and then a rollercoaster, then a fried chicken stand. You know what? I'm going to incorporate my little theme park incase something happens and I don't want to be sued and lose my house. Now I'm a LLC corporation. It cost me $35.00 for the paperwork.

I know somebody who went to Canada. She said there are people who are jealous of the U.S. and don't like us. We presume we are so similar to them, but that Socialism changes things.
 

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I do believe ogoun you said that the real constitutional crisis IS the Constitution. If I have that wrong I know you will let me know. I go 100% with the very end of your post. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. wrote, "the real issue to be faced" before superficial matters is, "the radical reconstruction of society itself." That would be a Socialist run on Communism. He said, that this was not good for Black people.
 

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