Black People Politics : What America sees...

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  1. ogoun

    ogoun Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Actually I had a much more diminutive ugly word written before I changed it to babe for the sake of decency. Trust me it wasn't used as any kind of slang for a term of endearment.
    If I would be so unlucky to end up in a dinner date with a proven liar and such an self-absorbed oblivious empty vessel she'd finish the dinner alone. So stop insulting me by putting a mrs. in front of my name when you want to refer to someone else.

    SOA, you should save those Depends diapers for the people that pee all over themselves at the mere mention of socialism. Yeh hand them out like the paper towels trumkof threw out for the hurricane survivors.
    Yeh, that bad boogie man socialism from an old white guy that wants to take us back to the 1950's with the only change being with some social justice mixed in that was missing in those salad days of the vaulted and now revered middle class of this country. Don't worry though who ever gets to become the next grand Poobah of this country will still follow the good old American prosperity gospel of extraction to gain it's wealth and expect to bear none of the costs just as they done for the last 100 plus years in South America, longer here at home and around the world.
    Imagine the temerity of some weenie state in S. America thinking they'd want to take control of their own resources and land. Then OMG! they also want to make it anything like a real democracy ahem like ya know control their own government and economic system!!!!!!!! We must step in to save them from themselves and besides we can't let them set the price for the resources we've been walking away with for pennies on the dollar. Those ignorant savages just don't know what's good for them or know their place.

    !931 was a pretty heady year for socialism, if I've read the history books correctly there was quite the socialist movement in this country as well and it picked up steam as the 30's progressed. Ya know a continued momentum that started with the robber barons and carried through the gilded age and grew quite a bit stronger after the stock market crash in 29. I think most of the world during that period was running around wondering what we do what do we do.
    Then the racist FDR saved fat cat extraction capitalism and McCarthy saved us all from those dirty freedom loving socialists.
    And by the way, unions are one of the things that half way survived and came out of the socialist movement. That makes you a dirty red SOA.
     
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    Please accept my apologies ogoun, as for this Venezuelan crises doesn't the timing of this inexplicable massive power failure reek of CIA involvement? I see they rewrote the Bay of Pigs planbook. Now they fund both parties in war and wait for the eventual fallout then do a complete 180 to keep the political pot stirring. If you fund only one side of a warring faction you're losing money, if you fund both sides you're still losing money but it's not your money anyway, it's the taxpayers money so without one cent in cost to you, you gain total control of the outcome of the war and that's your dividend. This playbook still works in Africa, worked in WWII cutting up Germany with the USSR, worked in Latin and Central America, still working in the Middle East especially with that CNN Breaking news fake back and forth saber rattling with Russia in cutting up Syria. The United States and Russia had to tear into Syria to work their way to the Gulfs of Oman and Aden because China is already in Africa and has the Gulf of Oman in their gun sights as their first chokepoint like they overtook the Panama Canal. Many many many spysats are watching the waters surrounding Socotra as we speak. It's going to be interesting. Enjoy the weekend ogoun.
     
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    You can bet the CIA has their fingers in the pie somewhere in that mess if not directly in Venezuela then it's on the Columbia border areas do'n some rabble rousing. Even a cursory glance pass the main stream media gives a fuller picture of what is happening down there.
    Couple of 'small things' stick out; whether or not the government mismanaged the monies or misallocated the priorities or over reached for ideals (or however you want to say it) when the price of oil was high it cannot be denied their real problems started when the US started to use it's muscle first with a blockade on sale of certain products from both the US and our toady international trade partners (that's why they don't have the parts for the oil refinery to keep it really working) and (that's why the biggest oil reserve in the world didn't have the fuel for the backup generators to keep most of the electrons flowing after 'someone' hacked into the computer systems) . From a goods blockade it was an easy step to total economic sanctions and seizing all the outside monies that were held and owed them thereby freezing any assets beyond their borders. (that small bit of pocket change only amounts in the billions) Even now anything Citgo sells those monies never see Venezuela as they are frozen here.
    Then we have this neoliberal boot licker that's a wanna-be leader......who before all this got rolling 81% of the population had never heard of and wouldn't have vote for if they had and probably still wouldn't, but of course it is of note he isn't calling for any new elections. Hmmm, I wonder why. I ran across somewhere (and if I have to I'll find it) someone had a run down on his creds which if memory serves was at George Washington U. studying his political sciences from someone who was active in various 'enterprises' in South America during the Reagan years. And studied economics from either a sitting member or a once chair member if not the ex-head of the IMF.
    Ahem I wonder what he plans to do with the country if this coup succeeds.
     
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    ogoun, You know on your Socialist paycheck you couldn't afford to take anyone out to dinner. Dinner is something people under Socialist domination have trouble putting together. Show me one place where a Socialist government has empowered the people. Name it. Name one nation where Socialism has saved it in the end. Our Constitution when government lives up to it is what keeps the people free. You know what I like, when one has facts there is no need to fall back to name calling. So without further time spent, I leave our two arguments pro and con Socialism up to those who read to decide. Regarding your snorts attacking me 00000000
     
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    You mean like the facts of 7 mil or closer to 8 mil illegal aliens having purchased weapons? Those kind of facts?
    So far the only 'FACTS' from you are nothing but hyperbole that you can never back up but only repeat more of the same psycho-babble or deflection to something else without ever owning a single thing you've said.....just move on in another direction.
    Farther you never have or give any constructive contribution but are more then willing to wander off into some irrelevance when you get either tired of squirming or sweating too much when your various glittering generalities and hyperboles get called into question.

    Just for the record willa I did as you suggested and went back to page 39 and did a little review with that handy propaganda list at hand and checked off the list as I read through the page. I was going to do the same at the next page but it became too boring, I'd already had 2/3's checked off. And the printed version of that list runs to six pages. And I used only page one and two......it got boring.

    So say something worth while. Just for a change.

    PS
    listen to more Bob Dylan
    Maybe Masters of War would a good start.
     
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    I think the people who are Socialists don't want to accept that once again it is failing humanity. It would be bad for their propaganda.



     
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    Excellent choice ogoun, excellent choice.



    I'll throw the icing on the cake with Pink Floyd's rendition.



    Later bro.
     
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    Yeh, too bad you don't care.
    If you gave a whit about the suffering people you'd be trying to get rid of the US sanctions rather than spouting imagined nonsense about socialism.

    SOA,
    Did you listen to Max Blumenthal?
    If not the, while the whole almost 40 min. are worth the time, the last few from about 20 min. on or so is worth it for anyone that has any questions of how we're once again shooting ourselves in the foot.
     
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    According to the Dylan rocker videos about our military I watched, the U.S. should not have a mean ol' military with State of the Art planes, ships, weapons because there is no threat for us. What a waste of our time, because we are the dog of war that all the innocent need to be afraid of and Dylan needs to warn the U.S. We have nobody we need to keep up with militarily. And we are just such criminal war mongers to poor Russia, China, Iran etc. Because none of them are drooling, yelling Death to America. You are safe. Just pull your blankets up over your head is all and ask for forgiveness for being at the ready to defend our families and a free way of life. If Russia took us down he would make sure we are happy, because that is what Communists and Socialist authoritarian-totalitarian governments do. Right? Good bye freedom!
     
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