Black People Politics : What America sees...

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  1. NNQueen

    NNQueen going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Hey Sis. Willa. Listen, you get no argument from me when you point out what you think are the failings of the democratic party. But let's be fair if you're going to compare the dems to the repubs. Are Black Americans any better off under a republican administration? It makes me think of slaves from different plantations comparing who has it better. You're still a slave.

    Dem or repub--Children are still dying due to school violence, people are still homeless, unemployment is still high, the school to prison pipeline still exists...I mean, the list goes on. But my question is, if we remain lock stepped with these two parties, what's going to change? We'll be back here in 3 years having the same conversation. I think both parties are corrupt and playing the American people like pawns for their personal gain. And each time we go to the polls to vote, we are forced to choose between the two major parties because the system is rigged and set up to maintain the status quo. Those of us who have jobs are worked to death trying to make ends meet, and they keep us chasing a pipe dream by dangling rich people in front of us like shiny objects. Our children don't want to grow up working hard and still having to struggle. They want to be rich and live the life that they see athletes, musicians and people in the movies live. A person without access and who hasn't had a meal in several days will do whatever it takes to get food. The system keeps us fed just enough, to keep us under its control. Once we've been fed, we remember who fed us and we keep returning for more.
     
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    Yes Willa, Assad is one of many puppets in the game of Geopolitics. Friend today, enemy tomorrow. White House and State Department ordered intelligence agency policy shifts have killed more second and third world heads of states then actual wars themselves. If I were the President of America I would not attack or even threaten to attack any country that America's intelligence agencies alone proved beyond a reasonable doubt was building up a supply of WMD, be they chemical, biological or nuclear. The first step would be to petition the UN Security Council to put the country on notice of violation of UN Resolution 1441 and demand that a detachment of UN Security Forces along with the IAEA and our own NRC and DOE personnel immediately gain access to the suspected production sites without delay. If there was even a hint of resistance of any type I would bring every available legal sanction to bear. Secondly I would by any means necessary have every American citizen withdraw from the offending country except the State Departments Diplomatic Corps while ordering the offending country's own Diplomatic Corps to remain in America. All global business transactions with the offending country would immediately halt and any financial assets in America banks would be seized. An immediate travel ban between America and the offending country would be instituted. I would conduct massive conventional military drills near the offending countries borders. Their aviation assets both civilian and military would be denied access to American controlled FAA/DOD Oceanic MWARA HF, HFDL, ARINC, ACARS, GPS and AIS navigation platforms which would cost them millions of dollars daily in lost civilian revenue and military oceanic and aviation overflight access. With not one shot fired but handling an adversary bent on hostility and destruction with non-violent but extremely destabilizing methods would soon realize the error of their ways. If that didn't work I still would be hard pressed to go nuclear, that's a serious and permanent end game. No president would want that to be his legacy, well if anybody were to even survive a nuclear exchange it would pretty much be academic anyway.
     
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    If you're not paranoid NNQ you very well should be. The general consensus is Democracy in America was flushed down the toilet of dirty politics when the idiot savant of the criminal enterprise known as the Bush dynasty, George W. Bush penned the Patriot Act with DHS being his duly appointed enforcer of illegal and unconstitutional policy under federal rule of law. FEMA was revamped and TSA completed the circle of Government Compliance and Control of the average working class citizen. Blacks on public assistance were given excessive perks that was gratuitously advertised in mainstream media to divide the masses. The Mexican Anchor Baby Program was also ramped up full tilt and that was also gratuitously advertised in mainstream media. Soldiers returning from the various Gulf War programs were not re-acclimated back into civilian life and many were enticed into law enforcement still having the urban warfare doctrine etched in their conscience state. Police officers nationwide were aggressively introduced to steroids while their employed agencies were receiving surplus military combat vehicles and law enforcement SWAT teams were being trained by Israeli military forces to handle civil insurrection. State and Federal grants and matching funds were made available to acquire select fire heavy weapons and explosives. The AG's office gave "No knock" warrants extremely broad autonomous powers. The NSA went full tilt with domestic surveillance including coercing private businesses to give them whatever data they collect on their clients. And on and on it goes to this day pitting us Americans against each other and we're allowing it to happen or should I say we are just standing by helplessly watching our demise being formulated by the very same government that taxes us excessively through America's most powerful Federal Agency, the IRS.

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    Opinion | America the Unfair?

    We need to leverage populist frustration into constructive postelection policy. It’s been done before.
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  4. willa

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    Excellent! I vote for you. Love it. To go nuclear is the last, nothing left but try and save us from their nuclear. Good thing I believe God has a hand in armies -- Bible.

    If I were Prez and my intel were bringing me inside information along with audio, video, and pictures pictures pictures of what was ramping up with those vowing down with America doom, and everything that you would do is done, then I believe the safest thing to do is bomb their missiles stash. In case they have one we didn't know about I'd place our own missile seeking missiles close around known threats so we could shoot them down at launch. This would make us hated "Aggressors" to those who think America bad, N Korea, Russia, Iran, China good.
     
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    You bring up very important problems. To reply to "Are Black Americans any better off under the republican administration?" Here's what I have been impressed with… Already there is more money in our pockets with this Republican Administration simply because of jobs brought back. There IS less black unemployment. It's good to have a job and be able to put food on the table. The Clintons said they were going to "grow jobs." One way was to make more government opportunities. Even in that suggestion, nothing much happened. We have had tens of thousands of jobs made available through this business man President.

    If the kids want to be rich, then we have to do what we see the rich do, doctors do, get the MD in college. College again for the ever growing and needed Tech opportunities. Pick out a career that brings a great paycheck and do what needs done to be part of that industry. Always seek to move up. Unless we're happy. That is what counts more than riches, finding our niche for happiness. My family has worked their way through college, plus grants. Not rich, but satisfied.

    Republicans are now turning for a serious look at the violent video games. I think this does have an effect on kids who spend all day shooting and blowing people up. Those bands started off in garages. One said it was ten years playing in bars and weddings before they hit it rich. Wealth takes a great deal of effort. Wealth that is inherited is many times lost because the kids never worked for it, so it is squandered.

    I remember my grandma having only bread and cherry jam, no butter, to give us to eat. I loved it. The fact was she had an idea and my mom and she sat down and talked about how to do it. They both had nursing experience, so they decided to put together a nursing home. Mostly old folks came there. It took a vision the bank liked. They got the start up, put money down on a house with four bedrooms, Then used the dining room and the living room for more bed space. It worked out. Not rich, but satisfied.

    Two members of my family are in social work. So they feel satisfied helping. I love this subject you have brought us for discussion. I hope there are others with some ideas to add.
     
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    Hi IFE. What's your idea for progress? :)
     
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    I have no expectations of progress for anyone under this man boy.
    More chaos for the next 2 yrs 7 mos.


    Yes, Mr. President, there is total chaos in your White

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    Big props to you both for passing along these two very appreciated and quite welcomed wake up calls to all of the destee.com posters!!!!!
     
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    willa Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    You all might find this interesting. I discovered that Thomas Nast political cartoonist 1870s drew the Republican Elephant with Lincoln standing beside him figuring out a way to get him up on his feet. The Republican Elephant stands for ANTI SLAVERY. I am only supposing the elephant was chosen because it comes from Africa. The Vault.

    Why do I feel like running and cheering!!! Yayyyyy! :choir:
     
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    The Democratic Donkey and the Republican Elephant

    In a cartoon that appeared in Harper's Weekly in 1874, Nast drew a donkey clothed in lion's skin, scaring away all the animals at the zoo. One of those animals, the elephant, was labeled “The Republican Vote.” That's all it took for the elephant to become associated with the Republican Party.


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    Willa, can you provide a link to the Rethugs elephant represents anti slavery. Will be much appreciated.
     
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