African Traditional Religion : What about the Upanishads?

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  1. ANUK_AUSAR

    ANUK_AUSAR Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Hetepu,

    Might we also discuss the Upanishads and the Bhagavad-Gita in these forums?

    Hetep.
     
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    Hmmmmm..........I don't see why not. Do you have anything worth Our Attention that must be known about it?

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  3. Moorfius

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    What are Religions made for and for whos purpose have they "All" served??

    Hotep

    The above question should be asked if you want to know the answer that is. Exactly what, why, when and ware were all of the so-called major religions supposedly revealed in the first place?

    We will find that none of them were revealed to the so-called Afrikans...the "Black-People" were born with their own "Spiritual-System" called Tradition that we know today is what was used to copy then twisted, plagerized, fabricated to give those who are the keepers of all of todays major religions that then was used to in-slave the origenal black people that they stole it from.

    The history of what is now called "India"...tells us of how the "Indo-Europeans" came into what was then a Black-Afrikan civilization that was already well in progress. Just as the indo-europeans did in so-called Egypt with their "Invasion and Plunder"...they (Aryans) proceeded to "Invade" the then Black Land. When they (Aryans/Indo-Europeans) came out of the hills and caves of europe with their savage nature to distroy and take over what was not theirs...they had the religion of "Brahma"...worshipers of the Cow or Calf.

    Later on as time passed the Blacks (Dravidians) continued to fight to the death before excepting the invading Aryans and their "Crazy" religion that they brought with them...the worship of the (Golden-Calf) Bull. During this period the Afrikans warrior "General" was named "KRISHNA" who nearly distroyed the ill efforts of the filthy, invading, savage Aryan invaders.

    A truce was called for a time and the Aryans had time to "Concoct" a "New" religion. And to trick the Afrikan (Dravidians) into excepting the religions that Aryans was making...they included the Black General Warrior "Krishna" a "God".

    The Aryan invasions continue...for they have "Never-Ever" been known through out history to keep their word. This new concoction by the Aryans was and is called "Henduism". And like always in all the other worlds western "Religions"...this oldest of all white supremist fabrications placed the "Whites" on "Top" and the "Blacks" on the bottom for ever!! The Aryans/indo-europeans made up foolishness they now call Henduism...that was changed from their origenal Brahma religion's so-called "Holy-Book" was now called...the "Bhagavad-Gita"!

    We only have so much time and time is life. MA`AT / Tradition / Mystery System / The Secrets are all explained to the "Initiates" who really want to "Know Thy Self". Medu Neteru is the write-ings on the wall of all the "Grand-Lodges" in Kemet / Afrika / Africa / Egypt. Most would think that time is better spent learning to "Read the Writing on the Wall"...that is the "MEDU NETERU". And even better...find a way to become an "Initiate" into the "Secret-Sciences" that is the Black man and Black woman's Spirituality...and not religion.

    Ase`
     
  4. Neb Akhu Ra

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    Hetep!
    Just to add my little bit of information to the milieu, in my understanding the Upanishads are composed in what are known as Prarkrit languages, that is languages which are different from the Sankskrit base of classical Hinduism. Also, while the Vedas are aryan in scope and composed by the Brahmanas, after their invasion of Sind, the Upanishads come from a slightly different element, the Kshratiya, which was the warrior and ruling class which were Original People, i.e Dravidians. The Upanishads serve as sessions, or recitations of lessons, explaining the mysteries from Teacher to Student. We must remember that anciently the Nubian/Ethiopian Empire stretched from Modern day Sudan all the way to Modern day India, and as such the clasical civilizations of those areas, Egypt, Sumeria, India, are actually one culture, and one faith the Ancient Ethiopian faith, just manifested with different deity names. When one begins to study the Upanishads, not the Vedas or other Vedic literature, one begins to see the apparent and rather blunt relation between these and Nile Valley Culture, the ideas are the same, names just different. As such i have always thought that Kemetic Reconstructionists, those wishing to make a modern faith based on and rooted in the Kemitic tradition, would find the Upanishads useful and even take them as Scripture as a lot of the information we have from Kem in text are mostly Shetau, Mythology, Ethical works,Historical works, or hymns and prayers, but we are lacking, or im unaware of a text which clearly lays down a philosohical system,which would be the missing factor to making it a comprehensive faith. And i think better to take an Indian work, which we know has some type of connection to Original People, than trying to apply classical writers comments on, or forcing the information we have from Kem conform to a western, i.e jewish, christian or islamic, philosophy of theology.
    Hetep
     
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    Who exactly gets to be endowed with the term "Black"?

    People from India are Original people. The Untouchables are the darkest of the Hindu caste system and that is because they refused to merge with their Aryan concquerers.
     
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    I personally try to identify cultural characteristics as issuing from a particular cultural milieu or horizon. I tend to look at recurring motifs in a society's culture and find connections. Indeed, the Untouchables were part of a cultural milieu that associates them with other Original People of the Southern Hemisphere. Dr. Marimba Ani prefers the term "asili" to isolate and compare cultural thought.

    Blackbird