Brother AACOOLDRE : We the Black Jews

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  1. AACOOLDRE

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    WE THE BLACK JEWS

    By Andre Austin

    Much talk these days about the origins of the Jews. I really don’t care one way or the other if the started out white or black. As a student of history I like to try to solve puzzles and figure things out. First we understand that the first Israelites were Egyptians, followers of Pharoah Akhenaten. The had the same name for god Aton/Adon. Israel is a word for Isis, Ra, and El. Hebrews were not Israelites or Jews, they were initiates of the Egyptian mystery schools until the Levites (Babylonian brotherhood took control over them)

    I always wondered why the Roman historian Tacitus writing about 90AD thought the Jews came out of Ethiopia. The word Jew is a title word for the Egyptian god Thoth who invents numbers, money and writing. “Some say they were a people that were very numerous in Egypt under the reign of Isis…The greater part say they were those Ethiopians whom fear and hatred obliged to change their habitation, in the reign of King Cepheus” (Book 5 Annals of History by Tacitus.

    The mythology of the Jews claimed they came from Ur (Chaldea) by their traveling father Abraham. But we know the ancient Chaldeans were black. By the way Abraham attached Ham to his name only after entering Egypt and submitted to circumcision. Circumcision was a rital related to the mutilation and lost penis of Osiris. Another leader of the Jews was Moses whose original name was Osarsiph, being a deviation of the god Osiris. The Jews dropped the prefix to Moses name for religious reasons. His full name was Ra-Mose, the first part was a god name offensive to the Hebrews.

    Now with that said I was curious about Cepheus, a king from Ethiopia but was ruling in Joffa, Canaan. I then recalled that Ham had 4 sons Cush (Ethippia), Mizaraim (Egypt) Phut (Libya) and Canaan. Some short facts about Ham and sons

    1. Ham is the son of Noah who is identified with the Egyptian Nun or Nile river in Egypt

    2. All four sons are identified with Egypt, Ethiopia and Libya

    3. Cepheus is sometimes identified as a Cannanite king like Ham’s son corresponds to Cannan.

    4. Biblical genealogy is ambiguous stating Canaan as both brother and son of Ham

    What we have here is geopolitical symbolism. Nevertheless, it shows an early tradition in which Egypt appeared as the brother of Libya, Ethiopia and Canaan. We know Aaron has a grandson name Phinehas which means Nubian/Ethopia black. Moses marry an Ethiopian too. The Egyptians even claim their ancestors come from Ethiopia bring the god Amen with them to Egypt.

    Abraham didn’t come from Ur of the Chaldees because it did not exist until about the eighth century BC about one thousand years after the Time of Abraham. Ur is not catalogued in the Table of Nations descened from Noah’s children. The editing in of UR suggest a timeframe well after the Babylonian conquest of Judah and almost certainly into the Persian or Hellenistic period 5th century bc. It shows that the Ur was a late invention to place Hebrew origins in the cultural center of the powerful Mesopotamian empires that followed the defeat of the chaldeans by the Persians, and intended to enhance Hebrew prestige within the Babylonian community. This is typical of Jewish tradition of emerging their history along side powerful empires and rewriting their history to reflect it. Noah’s flood original was a creation story that was supposed to be in the first chapter of genesis. Noah is the Egyptian Nun flood story creating 8 gods but Noah’s 8 survivors.

    The next myth is that Abraham left Egypt to go to Canaan. The truth is that Abraham went into southern Egypt, not Canaan. One can’t get to Canaan by going south from Egypt. This indicates that the original biblical history of Israel began in Egypt, not Cannan or Mesopotamia. After the Jews came into contant with Bayblonian culture they tried to edit out Egypt as the Garden of Eden, Noah as being the Nile flood and so on to impress the Bayblonians but they didn’t do a good job of the revision. They left too many clues to reveal the truth.

    Now I’m waiting for amazon books to mail me a copy of Dr Ben’s book “we the black Jews”. He’s in a nursing home now if he’s still living. He donated thousands of books to the NOI. I could have checked the book out at their library but don’t have the time to make the trip to Chicago.





     
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    Outstanding, most of the serious researchers here and those in general are keenly aware of this fact. In fact, I've been preaching this message right here from day one (2006). Sister Destee advised me to promote my book: Does Color Matter, and explained I needed to become a Premium Member; and I've been one ever since.:)


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    ok I hear you
    The story need to be repeated and retold for newcomers.
    I've had some of Ja Rogers books from the 1980's when i was in college that i used as a resource here.
     
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    Without a doubt, keep on keeping on, it can't be over spread.
     
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    Very interesting thread, Aacooldre. But what do you mean with "I really don't care one way or the other if they started out White or Black"? Doesn't race matter to you? By the way, I thought that the so-called "Garden Of Eden" was located in the Middle-East... Don't you think?
     
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    What matters to me is not the claim that a particular black ruler claimed be descended from Solomon and Sheba...

    What also matters to me is he stood up to the descendants of white invaders, and had others done likewise, there wouldn't have been a Second World War...

    I. e., time and again, africans and their descendants have been in the forefront of the world's freedom struggles...

    When it comes to the likes of everybody from Crispus Attucks to Malcolm X etc., that is also a part of our legacy...

    FYI...
     
  7. AACOOLDRE

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    I'm interested in the garden of eden. it was in Egypt. I'm interested in Adam and Eve being black as the original.


    The Myth: The Garden of Eden was Out of Africa?



    1.“Egypt is, the sky-fallen river” Homer Odyssey 4:580

    2.“Thou hast set a Nile in heaven,

    That it may fall for them”-A Hymn for Aton worshippers

    3.“Let the water under the sky, be gathered into one place”-Genesis 1:9



    All three using the same language for the Nile river.



    Answer: The reality: Not at all the Garden was in Africa. Eden originally represented the Isle of flames, the first land in the Egyptian Creation myths. In the Heliopolitian tradition, that would be located from the mythical Eden at Heliopolis,Egypt.



    Where did god plant the Garden of Eden? Much has been written on this subject but without any definitive answer. The text provides few clues. Genesis places it in the east, which is where the sun rises, and also locates it west of Nod, where Cain built the first city. Unfortunately no one knows where Nod is. But, the Bible called Thebes No one letter off from Nod.



    The chief clues to Eden’s location are the references to the four rivers, Pison, Gihon, Hiddekel, and Euphrates, all of which split off from a main river that flows out of Eden but which is not named.



    A cursory glance at the text will demonstrate the origins of this tale, for the river of Eden is described as having four branches. There is only one river in this part of the world that fits this description, and that is the Nile, with the four branches forming the Nile Delta. Here, then, is the true crucible for the Genesis story in Egypt



    The first river, Pison, encompasses all the land of Havilah, which has very good natural resources, such as gold, bdellium, and onyx. The location of Havilah is unknown, but most scholars believe it corresponds to Arabia. Genesis 10, however, which describes various geographical relationships, depicts Havilah as a son of Cush, and Cush is Ethiopian.



    The second river, Gihon, “compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia”. This places two rivers in the vicinity of Cush, an area south of or near the south of Egypt.



    Hiddekel, the third river; goes toward the east of Assyria, and clearly corresponds to the Tigris river, one of two great waterways of Mesopotamia. The fourth river is still known as the Euphrates, the other great river of Mesopotamia.



    What’s wrong with this picture? We have two rivers in Asia and two south of Egypt. How can these four rivers be connected to a single source? What is the mighty water source from which the other four split off? And where is the Nile, which runs through Egypt, between Asia and Ethiopia? The story in its present form represents a late editing by someone familiar with Babylonian traditions but not knowledgeable about African geography.



    Several clues suggest that the unnamed mighty river from which these other four rivers flow is the Nile.



    1. The Nile is the only river not listed in the text.

    2. Such identification would account for how Eden’s geography could include two rivers south of Egypt that link up to other rivers sources far to the north.

    3.The Garden of Eden story derives from the Heliopolitian creation myth. In that story, after the first land emerged and the waters drew together in the Nile, the god Shu went down to Heliopolis and became Osiris in the form of grain, thus planting a garden east of the Nile.

    4. Egyptian tradition placed the Tree of life in Heliopolis, the sun city. Logic would flow that the tree of life was based on Shu, a God of light/Sun. So we have Jesus (Shu) son of the sun and Nun

    5. The first land in Egyptian tradition came to be known as the Isle of Flames (because of the flaming mountain that arouse out of Nun/water) and each of the cult centers claimed to be the site of the first land. In Genesis, after God expelled Adam and Eve from the garden, he blocked the entrance with fire-wielding Cherubs, which suggests the idea of an “Isle of flames came from Egypt.



    These points indicate that the story about four rivers flowing from one river coming out of the Garden of Eden had nothing to do with the two Asian waters described in the Genesis story. Originally, the four branches would have been Nile tributaries two of which split off in the north and formed the Egyptian delta, and two of which split off in the north and formed the Egyptian delta, and two of which split off in the south by Ethiopia.



    Subsequently, when the Hebrews came to Babylon, they replaced the names of the two Nile branches forming the Egyptian delta with the names of the two Mesopotamian rivers forming the Mesopotamian delta. They left the two southern branches intact.



    As the Hebrews began to look at their history from a Babylonian perspective, they identified many of the biblical stories with similar tales in Mesopotamian literature, often losing track of the original Isle were transformed into fiery swords wielded by Cherubs.



    In Mesopotamia, the Hebrews learned stories about a place named Dilmun, which was widely known in that region as an ancient paradise from the first times. As they substituted Mesopotamian traditions for the Egyptian, they believed that Eden and Dilmun may have been one and the same place.



    Notes:

    SKULLS CONFIRM THAT ALL MANKIND ORIGINATED FROM AFRICA.

    Modern humans are derived from a single point in Africa British scientist say…the study places the original root of modern humans in south-central Africa. (Jet magazine Aug,6, 2007. P.11)



    Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin

    By Rick Weiss



    Scientists, [from Penn State University], said yesterday that they have discovered a tiny genetic mutation that largely explains the first appearance of white skin in humans tens of thousands of years ago, a finding that helps solve one of biology's most enduring mysteries and illuminates one of humanity's greatest sources of strife.

    The work suggests that the skin-whitening mutation occurred by chance in a single individual after the first human exodus from Africa, when all people were brown-skinned. That person's offspring apparently thrived as humans moved northward into what is now Europe, helping to give rise to the lightest of the world's. See web site: ( Washington Post 12-16-05 p.A01
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...121501728.html).




    All blue eyed people are related to each other.



    How could the Garden of Eden not be in Africa with all of this data?



     
  8. Apollyon

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    I'm sorry, but you are misinformed. The so-called "Garden Of Eden" was located in South Arabia. First "Adam and Eve" who were called "the Adamu" by their creators, NOT one creator, were created in South Africa, and then taken to the the Middle-East. Those creators called Africa "the Absu" and the Middle-East "the Eden". Hence the name "Garden Of Eden" and was located in South Arabia precisely. Experts who studied the Bible have concluded that all Biblical stories originally come from the Sumerian clay tablets.

    And the study on white skin you mentioned is about Black/Negroid albinos, NOT about the actual Caucasoid race. Yes, as strange as it may sound, Blacks were actually the very first "Whites" on earth because they were the very first race on earth. Those White Blacks were the albinos, but had completely NOTHING to do with Caucasians!
     
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    Not really.
    The Jews were under the influence of Egypt until they left. When they merged with other cultures they incorporated their myths alongside with Egypt. For example the flood story is based on two clutures of mesotamia and Egypt, the inundation is Egypt and the rainfall is me

    If you read Gary Greenberg book "101 myths of the bible" he can explain better than me.
     
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    Nope, you don't understand it, and then you just ignore what I say and go on with babbling. I was not talking about the Jews, I was talking about where the Garden Of Eden was located precisely. And that was certainly in the Middle-East (South Arabia). You are overestimating Egypt. You must know that the Egyptian civilisation was even the LAST ancient Black civilisation on earth! First there were Lemuria and Atlantis, and then there was the Sumerian civilisation. Take note that the Sumerians were originally an AFRICAN people! As I stated in my previous post they originated in South Africa, and then moved to Mesopotamia. It's maybe possible that the area that people call the Middle-East is a part of Africa, nevertheless people call it the Middle-East.
     
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