Black People : We must unite to defend our communities

[chuck]

When many of the same "immigrants" are themselves Black people from Mexico, Trinidad, Haiti, Belize, Cuba, Venezuela, Ethiopia, Ghana, Guyana, Nigeria, South Africa, Kenya, et al for some black folks who argue from the same perspective as the oppressors are not all that 'pro us either'.

peace.

Chuck:

Good afternoon, elder bruh...

But, these simply 'either or' and 'us vs them' scenarios, y'know?

I. e., the ideal was/is of people of color uniting around a common intent and purpose, as though we and they feel and think alike etc. as regards this nation's white bigots and racists ad naseum, also though the reality was and is of individuals and groups of social climbers etc. promoting their cliquest and/or self serving interests etc.

Simply put:

Just what does somebody from--say--South Central L. A.--truly have in common with--also say--a resident of Balwin Hills?

So, who is advocating what shall 'we' protect and save and who is this 'us' they're directing the call outs/ups/etc., too??

Therefore, perhaps we too need to revise our claims etc., as to who is against and for us, via this latest desegregation era, as a given...

My point:

No use trying to build new alliances and/or create new movements etc. but on the basis of old illusions/leading to wrongheaded conclusions/possible with my and mine/you and yours/etc. ending up doing more of the losing...

 

[Black Squared]

The existence of a half black president proves that half black people can do something to get ahead in this country and become president.

What if you're full black?



I have heard the Asians and Mexicans do things through the existence of something called a su-su or economic pot. Essentially, an informal investment club.

They work, and everybody takes their money and pool it into this pot. When it reaches a certain point, they take it do things with it, something as simple as buy a riding lawn mower or weed eater, or something more complex like a commercial building. They work form their own little business and work at that and throw more money into the pot for their families to use and send some back home for their family backhome to save and contribute to their own pot and make something there.

I'm hearing that it would never work with us because we don't trust each other.

Also, check out something called micro credit
http://news.mongabay.com/2005/0525a-poverty.html
Not sure if that would work here because the loans funds are so cheap or low they couldn't do much here.. Plus microcredit is not without it's problems
http://www.rediff.com/money/2006/nov/10spec.htm

I was in a group that provided a savings of $ eared for a $ saved up to the 2 grand. I forget what they called it, but there was hope that the group would stay together and it turn into an investment group. We all got our funds and it disabanded.

Maybe that is something you can start with members of family like the immigrants do.

lol, how many of us in this country are FULL black?

Why can't black people in general do this? When are we going to value education and stop fighting over scraps and wasting money on pointless material nonsense to "appear" wealthy instead of being wealthy?

 

[Knowledge Seed]

The existence of a half black president proves that half black people can do something to get ahead in this country and become president.

What if you're full black?



I have heard the Asians and Mexicans do things through the existence of something called a su-su or economic pot. Essentially, an informal investment club.

They work, and everybody takes their money and pool it into this pot. When it reaches a certain point, they take it do things with it, something as simple as buy a riding lawn mower or weed eater, or something more complex like a commercial building. They work form their own little business and work at that and throw more money into the pot for their families to use and send some back home for their family backhome to save and contribute to their own pot and make something there.

I'm hearing that it would never work with us because we don't trust each other.

Also, check out something called micro credit
http://news.mongabay.com/2005/0525a-poverty.html
Not sure if that would work here because the loans funds are so cheap or low they couldn't do much here.. Plus microcredit is not without it's problems
http://www.rediff.com/money/2006/nov/10spec.htm

I was in a group that provided a savings of $ eared for a $ saved up to the 2 grand. I forget what they called it, but there was hope that the group would stay together and it turn into an investment group. We all got our funds and it disabanded.

Maybe that is something you can start with members of family like the immigrants do.

SUSUs work very well. I always advocate starting SUSUs over getting loans.

Micro-finance, or micro-credit as some call it, also works very well. For the borrower, it opens the opportunity to entrepreneurship. For the lender, it offers fat returns on invested capital.

In order for micro-credit to work to its full potential, I think there has to be an educational component that teaches people how to manage their money.

 

[Ankhur]

SUSUs work very well. I always advocate starting SUSUs over getting loans.

Micro-finance, or micro-credit as some call it, also works very well. For the borrower, it opens the opportunity to entrepreneurship. For the lender, it offers fat returns on invested capital.

In order for micro-credit to work to its full potential, I think there has to be an educational component that teaches people how to manage their money.

Thanks for adding that and the sister mite be misinformed since the term Susu is Carribbean,
and in Brooklyn has been the cornerstone of Black middle class economic growth for over 50 years.
The Mexicans, Central Americans, Koreans, Sri Lankan, Bangla Deshis, have camera shy and basically silent underground economic leaders, who give loans to prospective small businesses, as well as extensive networking of all services and supplies needed for business.

One such millonaire had purchased every single MTA subway newstand kiosk , for employing his people (Sri Lankan-Bangladeshi)

 

[Knowledge Seed]

Thanks for adding that and the sister mite be misinformed since the term Susu is Carribbean,
and in Brooklyn has been the cornerstone of Black middle class economic growth for over 50 years.
The Mexicans, Central Americans, Koreans, Sri Lankan, Bangla Deshis, have camera shy and basically silent underground economic leaders, who give loans to prospective small businesses, as well as extensive networking of all services and supplies needed for business.

One such millonaire had purchased every single MTA subway newstand kiosk , for employing his people (Sri Lankan-Bangladeshi)

WOW! That reminds me of the stories I've heard about the Policy Kings. They did so much for Black folks!