Black People : Was Slavery Our (African people) Own Fault? (PDF document)

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  1. King Tubbs

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    Was Slavery Our (African people) Own Fault?

    This is a debate I've heard many times. Often white people and sometimes many black people trot out the old line about Africans selling themselves so therefore they "did it to themselves" as if this somehow totally utterly justifies 400 years of slavery to white people. "Oh well they sold their own people to us, so its their own fault not ours!"

    Although its undeniable the cooperation of some African kingdoms was vital to the success of slavery the PDF document link below is the best argument I've heard to contradict the simplicity of this point of view.

    Please print it off and read it, memorise the important points and distribute to friends and family.

    Its by a British brother named Omowale who used to do a radio show here in London on a black radio station.

    If you don't have Adobe you may need to download it to read the document.

    http://pascf.org.uk/resources/Was+slavery+really+our+own+fault.pdf
     
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    Omowale.

    ...David Omowale?
     
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    Thanks Bro King Tubbs,
    Bro Omowale makes a great presentation. We have had this conversation here on this site, and it is always amazing how many Afrikan Americans make excuses for slavery and blame Afrikans. The usual motivation is religious. Black Christians wanting to downplay the involvement of Christianity, and Muslims doing the same. Different motivation than YT, but same result. It really is sickening.

    thanks again
     
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    No, he is born in Britain of Jamaican parentage and stopped using his Europeanised name and just calls himself Brother Omowale with nothing in front or behind. I know he is not David Omowale (even though I have not heard that name before) because he makes a point not to use a European name like David.
     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa and Real Truth!





    Here’s even more King Tubbs,

    A Commentary by Oscar L. Beard, Consultant in African Studies
    24 May 1999


    The single most effective White propaganda assertion that continues to make it very difficult for us to reconstruct the African social systems of mutual trust broken down by U.S. Slavery is the statement, unqualified, that, "We sold each other into slavery." Most of us have accepted this statement as true at its face value. It implies that parents sold their children into slavery to Whites, husbands sold their wives, even brothers and sisters selling each other to the Whites. It continues to perpetuate a particularly sinister effluvium of Black character. But deep down in the Black gut, somewhere beneath all the barbecue ribs, gin and whitewashed religions, we know that we are not like this.

    Chancellor Williams, in his classic work, The Destruction of Black Civilization, explains that after the over land passage of African trade had been cut off at the Nile Delta by the White Arabs in about 1675 B.C. (the Hyksos), the Egyptian/African economy was thrown into a recession. There is even indication of "pre-historic" aggression upon Africa by White nomadic tribes (the Palermo Stone). As recession set in the African Government began selling African prisoners of war and criminals on death row to the White Arabs. This culminated as an unfortunate trade, in that, when the White Arabs attacked, they had the benefit of the knowledge and strength of Africans on their side, as their slaves. This is a significantly different picture than the propaganda that we sold our immediate family members into slavery to the Whites.

    http://www.africawithin.com/maafa/did_we_sell.htm

    http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=594082&postcount=26 Apologizing for Slavery by Linda Chavis

     
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    what amazes me is how many Africans deny their ancestors had ANY involvement in the slave trade.
    ...and I thought they were into that so called Truth and Reconciliation stuff. guess not.
     
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    If the question is did we sell ourselves into slavery the answer is yes. If the question is raised because America wants to use that to justify their having slavery in America then it's irrelevant.
     
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    I won't say that "slavery" was the fault of Africans but looking self-critically at Our story, whose fault is it if we fail to properly defend ourselves against attacks by outsiders?

    Do we not accept any responsibility for being defeated by superior military technology (specifically, the cannon)?

    just asking...
     
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    On one hand you have those who say slavery is "our own fault"(Africans), on the other you have those who say it is "all their fault"(Europeans). Neither is true. The reality is that both people groups have a measure of responsibility in slavery as both people groups are complicit. Rather that measure of responsibility is 10/90, 50/50, 90/10 or somewhere in between is a matter for mature discussion among those who can handle the truth. The problem begins when those on one side claim that by accepting their measure of responsibility they are allowing the other side to get off "Scott free". If we fail to acknowledge our measure of responsibility in pursuit of the "all their fault" ideology, we are missing an opportunity for collective self-improvement. On the other hand, if we buy into the it's all "our own fault" lie, we are enabling White supremacist to feel justified. It is in our best interest to deal with slavery in a manner that acknowledges the truthful measure of responsibility of both people groups. As I mentioned, the actual measure of responsibility is a matter for mature discussion.
     
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    Hi Omowalejabali,

    Its a hard one, because the whole of Africa was not a single entity, so one kingdom did not see attacking another, with weapons from the Europeans, as "attacking themselves", in the same way USA and England did not see bombing fellow whites in Germany as "attacking themselves". Therefore protecting "ourselves" was only seen as protecting ones kingdom not the whole of Africa.

    I don't see how we can blame ourselves for the fact whites were far more proficient at making war. India, China, Indigenous America there are virtually no non white areas that were spared from white military supremacy.
     
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