Black Spirituality Religion : was Noah's flood real?

river said:
Brotha Sun ship.

Always a pleasure when you navigate this way.

Very interesting about the rainfall. Every branch of science precludes the historicity of what we read in the bible.

It is highly probable that any extraterrestrial beings would look like us since the nonmelaninated ones are an anomaly and not really fit for natural survival.

Of course, everything proffered by western science as knowledge should not be taken as such. After all,these were the same people who said they had scientific proof that Africans are less intelligent than Europeans.

Many of the things we read about in the bible sound like comparatively primitive people trying to describe technologically advanced phenomenon Like in the book of Revelation the description of the golden streets of Heaven looking like clear glass. Those people did not have the technology to purify gold to the point it is clear as glass but this is what astronauts use for sun visors. We really don't know how much knowledge was lost to the world when the christians burned the library at Alexandria.
The pleasure is mines...

Sister river, I think it is hard to understand or even accept anything in the Bible without further verification from other textual and historical sources let alone the more “cutting edge” science that is available. As I have always tried to get across, is that even King James admitted that his canonical efforts were his OWN “version” or interpretation of the Biblical scrolls that were allowed and included in the King James VERSION of the bible!

And as far as I’m concerned, there will always be a thin line between a “version” and the “perversion” of text, symbolism, knowledge, history, or spirituality.

We know that a lot of the texts we have today were originally stolen, mistranslated, interpolated, or left in the hands of those who the ancients considered to be ineducable heathens, who could not fully understand languages, science, non-linear thinking, metaphysics, symbolism, or the seemingly imperceptible spiritual realm.

Spiritual text cannot be read merely literally, or as fanciful allegory full of mythological science-fantasy type beings and events, though the metaphysical aspects of spiritual knowledge can be deemed somewhat as supernatural to a 3-diminsional Newtonian thinking mind.

Even quantum physicians and mathematicians are starting to look at concepts such as string theory, the theory of chaos, parallel worlds, and even a possible holographic universe that is just an illusion, or a reflection of something though we perceive it as real, and that there is an unrecognizable dimensional realm we are a part of that is even more real than what we see. I even heard one scholar coin the term, shamanic physics, as a way of tying together Quantum physics and the similar ideas found in ancient spiritual traditions.

I believe it takes not only study, but also a “mind-bending” approach to make the intellectual paradigm shift needed to understand something that the imperialist “gate keepers of knowledge” in this world have tried to shroud-over for eons. I don’t think we can take this world’s type of linear thinking into the more paradisiacal future that so many spiritual and religious people seem to desire.


Peace
 
river said:
The biblical Earth is just too young for it to fit in with the realities of history, or should I say ourstory. It corresponds more to the masonic age of light and the emergence of the white man from the caves. In that sense it fits in with his story nicely with the creation myth being the awakening of the white man from pre his story to his story. His god told him to subdue the Earth which he has done and continues to do.


This is similar to a theory I use to have as to white the bible is written and depicted as if whites are the only race on the earth. I contend that all races were upon the earth and the whites wrote all of nations off except there own. Look at it, other nations have their versions of the bible but it was the white scribes that said that their teachings could not be apart of the bible because it was not divinely inspired, as if theirs were.

Look at the tower of babble; they want us to believe that a cylinder structure was built to reach the heavens. This is not possible; it would crumble under its own weight. Many believe the tower was actually a pyramid due to the people who lived in that region at the time and how they built their structures called “ziggurats” which is a pyramid.
 
Music Producer said:
The problem with this is the white man that subdues the earth is not Servants of the GOD that Spoke those Words. They are Servants to the Son of that GOD “Jesus”.

Basically the white man who conquers us don’t serve the GOD of the Old Testament. As a matter of fact they can be seen as mortal enemies to any people that do because they say we killed their god. So when GOD spoke this…….

Gen:1:28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

HE was Speaking to Africans, which we were doing just fine until we started rebelling against the LAW of GOD and angered HIM to the point as to where HE manifested the white man to rule over us and to do so until we return to HIS LAW.

edify me brutha.

can you point me in the direction that mentions us being here first?
 
darkreign said:
This is similar to a theory I use to have as to white the bible is written and depicted as if whites are the only race on the earth. I contend that all races were upon the earth and the whites wrote all of nations off except there own. Look at it, other nations have their versions of the bible but it was the white scribes that said that their teachings could not be apart of the bible because it was not divinely inspired, as if theirs were.

Look at the tower of babble; they want us to believe that a cylinder structure was built to reach the heavens. This is not possible; it would crumble under its own weight. Many believe the tower was actually a pyramid due to the people who lived in that region at the time and how they built their structures called “ziggurats” which is a pyramid.

I noticed you said you "used to" have this theory. What led you to abandon it? Did you find another theory on this issue?

Looking at the Tower of Babel as a myth I see that it represents a lot of things. If indeed it was a pyramid then the goal was not to reach a physical heaven but a spiritual one. You can't even begin to build the base of a pyramid until you know exactly how tall it is going to be. Every stone has to be cut to a precise slope so that the top comes to a point. Clearly, the white man saw the technology and spiritual energy of the other racest as a threat to his meager abilities and his concept of God which did not rise above himself. That's why we see in the story surrounding the tower and throughout the whole bible this feeble minded diety who is so easily intimidated by the potential of man.
 
Sun Ship said:
The pleasure is mines...

Sister river, I think it is hard to understand or even accept anything in the Bible without further verification from other textual and historical sources let alone the more “cutting edge” science that is available. As I have always tried to get across, is that even King James admitted that his canonical efforts were his OWN “version” or interpretation of the Biblical scrolls that were allowed and included in the King James VERSION of the bible!

And as far as I’m concerned, there will always be a thin line between a “version” and the “perversion” of text, symbolism, knowledge, history, or spirituality.

We know that a lot of the texts we have today were originally stolen, mistranslated, interpolated, or left in the hands of those who the ancients considered to be ineducable heathens, who could not fully understand languages, science, non-linear thinking, metaphysics, symbolism, or the seemingly imperceptible spiritual realm.

Spiritual text cannot be read merely literally, or as fanciful allegory full of mythological science-fantasy type beings and events, though the metaphysical aspects of spiritual knowledge can be deemed somewhat as supernatural to a 3-diminsional Newtonian thinking mind.

Even quantum physicians and mathematicians are starting to look at concepts such as string theory, the theory of chaos, parallel worlds, and even a possible holographic universe that is just an illusion, or a reflection of something though we perceive it as real, and that there is an unrecognizable dimensional realm we are a part of that is even more real than what we see. I even heard one scholar coin the term, shamanic physics, as a way of tying together Quantum physics and the similar ideas found in ancient spiritual traditions.

I believe it takes not only study, but also a “mind-bending” approach to make the intellectual paradigm shift needed to understand something that the imperialist “gate keepers of knowledge” in this world have tried to shroud-over for eons. I don’t think we can take this world’s type of linear thinking into the more paradisiacal future that so many spiritual and religious people seem to desire.


Peace
Yea daddy, we got the King James perversion and the New Revised perversion, the New American Standard perversion and the NIV perversion, the Tyndale perversion and don't forget the Geneva perversion. When I was at Biola University the bible professors told us the original manuscripts no longer exist. So we really don't know if the stuff we have today is true to the original manuscripts or even if there ever were any original manuscrispts.
 

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