Black People : Was L Ron Hubbard, good for Black folks????

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  1. Natinr

    Natinr Banned MEMBER

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    Fletcher Prouty was played by Donald Sutherland inthe Oliver Stone movie "JFK"
    As an important man in covert-ops he testified that Hubbards military records were tampered with or altered to conceal his possible work for the office of Naval Intelligence. (BY WHO?)

    Bill Cooper(author of Behold A Pale Horse) ex Naval Intelligence, who never concealed his records, was assasinated 2 weeks after 9/11 for his whistle blowing activities.
    If you google L Ron Hubbard and OTO, you will find some interesting things also L Ron Hubbard and mind control., also CIA
    He was affiiated with world renownd Illuminati chief Aleister Crowley and became a member of his group OTO, as well as close friend of Satanist Jack Parsons.
    (theDemonGate constructed in the movie "Hell Boy" was a copy of an experiment done by Parsons and Hubbard, called Babbalon rising.

    I wonder is Scientology something positive or negative for the Black community, are they conducting bizarre experiments in Africa, I do not know and leave this open for further research and discussion.

    take a look at
    www,clambake.com
     
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    There is a movie called The Master in which Philip Seymour Hoffman plays Lancaster Dodd (L. Ron Hubbard) in the 2012 film.

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    Here is a snippet of the film



    Not really sure how to respond to the question though, that's like asking "was massah good to Junebug?"
    Or "were the creators of the NAACP good for blacks?"

    Hubbard didn't really deal with "blacks" unless he was in Africa setting up his racket, and even then he probably saw it as a business venture.

    Other than Isaac Hayes, and maybe Will Smith and family (who didn't get involved into the Hubbard craze until after he died), can't really say there has been a wide pool to determine the value... but buyer beware. A magician will never reveal their trick, until they are done with the illusion.
     
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    why scientology in so many posts? what's the deal?
     
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    Some people tend to think it may be some sort of "treasure" that has been stolen and hidden from them that will save the world, liken to that of a messiah.



    While others...


    Video Link:
    "Scientology evicted me!" says anonymous Angry Black Man



    ...don't really care much for it




    There are also some that think taking courses and reading books doesn't create the assimilation or "long and beautiful relationship" with it, while attempting to reject the labeling of it.


    Seems not to work for this "non-scientologist"


    Video Link:
    Clearing the planet, one S.P. (Suppressive Person) at a time


    Probably wasn't "black", but she sure was being surveilled about her online and offline activities. Hubbard did work for Naval Intelligence, so spy training is probably taught somewhere in the mix. Wonder how this would turn out for "black" people.


    All "black" people should join just to be on the safe side, whatcha think?


    Video Link:
    Scientology Run-in



    Hubbard was into the studies of many ancient philosophies and cultures, traditional (common) and non-traditional (not wholly accepted).


    In doing so, his creation of so called "Scientology" which is basically a wordy way of saying "the study of jargon/wordage" Science of Tautology, but later attempts to rationalize it with "knowing how to know"... redundant much? Hubbard created a new language based on an alternate universe and then explained what these terms meant.


    Brainwashing is one way to look at it, which is an extreme form of "detachment therapy" (detox)

    Hypnotic conjecture along with this is where potential "mind control" or manipulation can creep in, but aside from this, it depends on how strong the person is to resist the manipulation...


    Those that resist are potential trouble sources, and those that have any association with the orgs would be labeled a suppressive person and thus be cut off completely from anyone or anything related to the group as a form of disconnection (kicked out even if they paid for courses they haven't "completed")

    Think of it like this:

    Ever been to a church and a minister "lays hands on a person" and they do not fall down to the ground?... they are sometimes labeled as "possessed" because they didn't lose their balance, but resisted falling down.

    To question or have slight concerns/doubt about lessons, teachings, structure, etc. could potentially put someone affiliated in anyway with this group into a financial dilemma as well as a personal dilemma.

    I'd say study Buddhism or something else first if someone has the slightest interest in Hubbard's pseudo philosophies, as the primary way to really study his material is to become associated with the new formation of his name branded establishment.
     
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