Black Spirituality Religion : Was Hypatia Black or White?

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  1. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    Some of you may be familiar withh the story of the woman who was a famous Egyptian philosopher and mathematician in Rome when the bishop Cyril had her brutally murdered in 415 C.E. I was under the impression that she was Black so I wanted to use her story on the African Heroes page of my website but when I went to google to find a picture of her all the pictures I saw were of a white woman.

    Now I know the original Egytians were Black but by her time the Ptolomies and everybody had pretty much created an "about face." Still, in the book The Black Man of the Nile the author portrays her as if she were Black. Do any of you have any information about this? Do you know of any pictures of her as a Black woman?
     
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    Fine1952 Happy Winter Solstice MEMBER

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    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    Thanks sista Fine52. Please look for my page about African Heroes in the next few days at my site http://www.ebonyminds.com. This site provides information and knowledge for former christians seeking an afrocentric spirituality. Some time ago I had joined a forum for ex-chrisitans but I couldn't feel the people because they seemed to think the only alternative to christianity is atheism. That may be true for whites but with our rich African heritage this just isn't necessary.

    Thanks again.

    Hotep
     
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    Fine1952 Happy Winter Solstice MEMBER

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    Fine1952 Happy Winter Solstice MEMBER

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    Nice set up!

    River, you've done a fantastic job at your site!
     
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    Les_Nubian New Member MEMBER

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    I found this:

    Beatrice Lumpkin (1988) and Margaret Alic (1986) have both described the life of Hypatia, " For fifteen centuries Hypatia was often considered to be the only female scientist in history. Hypatia is the earliest woman scientist whose life is well documented" (Alic, 1986, p. 41). Lumpkin provides evidence that Hypatia was not Greek and instead was an Egyptian and thus of African origin. It seems that contrary to the customs of Greek women at that time, "Hypatia remained unmarried and moved freely and publicly in her scientific pursuits" (Lumpkin, 1988, p. 155). Hypatia lectured on mathematics, philosophy, physics and astronomy (Lumpkin, 1988). She wrote important treatises on Algebra and Conic sections. Hypatia is credited with designing an astrolabe, a water still, an instrument to measure water level and an hydrometer (Alic, 1986, p. 44). Hypatia refused to convert to Christianity and in 415 A.D. she was murdered brutally by Christian fanatics (Lumpkin, 1988).

    (http://www.africa.upenn.edu/K-12/African_Science.html)

    Oh, and I can't find ONE picture where she is portrayed as "black", or any text that describes her as being so, so I presume she was white? :D

    Hope that is of some help!
     
  7. Omowale Jabali

    Omowale Jabali The Cosmic Journeyman PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Sister Fine, the greeks themselves were of "African origin"!!

    Their ancestors who inhabited the Mediterranean and the so-called Basque counries despended from the Grimaldi man who was representative of the second migration out of east Africa.

    Hypatia, was of "mixed" Egyptian AND Macedonean ancestry as were many "Egyptians" at that time. For sure, the pic you posted of here is typical of what would be considered in the us 100 years ago as a "mulatto" or maybe even a "quadroon".

    Peace!
     
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    this was about to be my exact response omo!
    thanks for saying it..
    but yes..
    most egyptians were of macedonean decent..
    but remember..
    just because they were from africa dont mean they black..
    we as blk folk have a tendency to blackinize ppl..:donttell:
    but despite what us americans believe...
    Egyptians with thier olive undertones..
    look no more black than they do chineese..

    more or less they look greek..
    (the macedonean in em)

    and they dont consider themselves black.. either



     
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    Yes I know

    11. The ancient Greeks were a dark people. Sir. Arthur Evans, the excavator of the Minoan sites, shocked Western scholars when he uncovered this fact in 1894 hidden among the ruins of ancient Crete. According Evans:

    The Grecians whom we discern in the new dawn were not pale-skinned Northerners, but essentially a dark skinned brown-complexioned race.
    http://www.trinicenter.com/kwame/20010615b.htm
    Posted: June 15, 2001
    Dr Kwame Nantambu
     
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