Black People : Was Bobby Seale a hatefull of Pan Africanists that worked with him?

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  1. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    There was statement made here, that Seale called these brothers agents ; Kwame Toure' and Eldridge Cleaver.

    Is there any validity to this or is this just a rumor?
     
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    How could either possible answer to that question help to heal or unite our community?
     
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    Was Bobby Seale hatefull of Pan Africanists, that had worked with him?

    There are folks here who would more then likely want to know the facts just as in any topic on this board,

    and probably revere Bobby Seale, have read Sieze the Times and are aware of his efforts to heal the community to this day,

    http://www.bobbyseale.com/

    and making such statements to them would be like making confusing statements about Amos Wilson or Marimba Ani.

    Also since confusing information causes division, and creates an environment of instability, amongst youth, who really only have a vague understanding of what happened back then, such instability causes folks to loose hope, just as many in the NOI lost hope when they heard the rumors about Malcolm




    But really only white supremists believe that facts have no value for us Black folks and certain things are like they say in the Military Industrial Complex,
    "on a need to know basis"

    A young girl who had a father who was gainfully employed, but seperated from his wife,
    and refused by his ex visitation rights,
    asked her mother one day
    "mamma is daddy dead alive or in jail?"

    her reply was.
    "what does that have to do with anything? why do you want to know that and how would knowing that give you better grades in school?"
     
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    My point was, as proved above, that you already had your own answer to your own question so why bother asking....

    But i see now that the question once again was just bait -
     
  5. Omowale Jabali

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    Here is a link to my post to your question in the other thread.

    http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=670641&postcount=45

    I dont know what you are trying to do here and will not question your motive but my answer to your question here in this thread is neither.

    Bobby Seale was not a sell-out or a snitch but he did make accusations against other BPP members in his book Seize the Time and in interviews.

    As someone who continually exhorts the viability of the Nguzo Saba perhaps this is an area of discussion you should leave alone especially if you choose to take my comments out of context and apply them into a completely inaccurate context.

    I can smell pork chop nationalism 4,000 miles away!

    :bully:
     
  6. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    what are you talking about the brother made a correction and I changed the title of the post, now did you read the correction or do you have an answer?
     
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    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Folks who smell that should brush their teeth, floss or see a dentist,
     
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    Interestingly you changed the title of the thread instead of asking if Bobby Seale was a snitch or a sell-out. I noticed that after my previous post.

    Again, even with the change my answer is no. Bobby Seale was not "hateful" of the Pan Africanists who worked with him as the BPP's objectives in recognizing the FLN in Algerian and the MPLA in Angola was in itself an expression of Pan Africanism.
     
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    No need for me to floss since I dont eat that swine you trying to feed my people with.

    You the one here daily "flossing" with your out-dated pork chop rhetoric and daily spins from the cointelpro handbook.


    Here it is Black August and you asking agent-provocative questions like j edgar's step-son.

    Instead of reading and knowing Seize the Time i'm willing to bet the only handbook on your shelf is Bar B-cueing with Bobby.

    http://bobbyqueseale.com/

    http://bobbyqueseale.com/declare.html
     
  10. Ankhur

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    I had an uncle that used to say men who reduce a simple debate into a personalish usually have insecurities about their man hood.

    A derogatory statement was made not about you but about a public figure in Black history,
    and some proof of that statement or what it is based on is requested,

    plain and simple
     
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