Black Spirituality Religion : Warith Deen Mohammed

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Hotep

For those who are not and were not involved in anything concerning the major struggles of Africans in America, and are satisfied to sit back and do nothing except to criticize the giants among us who one would be priviledged to tie the shoe strings of such great leaders among us, it is good advice to know exactly what you are talking about or don't say anything. Most of the so-called criticizers were not in Rome or any ware else, to make a statment and spout out unlearned speculations that W.D. Mohammed kissed the Popes ring is incorrect. http://www.newafricaradio.com
For those who don't have the heart or mind to involve them self in any real fight to free them self, let alone what it takes to understand what is really going on in this world we live in, are really trying to cover up and trivialize Africans struggle in favor of the enemies who are a well advanced and organized power that will take "All" of us to overcome in the proper time. We (Africans) are diverse as well, and are far more advanced than the ordenary ones among us could posibly know, if all information is received "Second-Hand" or no hand, by the western media and their simpathizers. As always, all of the so-called prophets are in total and absolute agreement, and are parts of the devine plan; it is the corrupt injections and omissions that we are left with if we are not truly sincere in our intentions to seak out the "Truth", It is the so-called followers who are in "Error" today and are at "War", claming to be followers of the "Prophets of their choice",...but in reality are "Not" followers of any thing except deceptions and untruths, in the name of what ever. African proverb: "When the student is ready, the Master will appear"...For some of us, the master will appear and will not be recognised because they don't know what to look for and even worse, the Master did not appear for them who refuse to drink after being guided to the (water) "Truth".

Ase`

Above is the webcast of the meeting between W.D. Mohammed and the Pope, see for your self if there was any kissing of any ring.
 
Dual Karnayn said:
Destee


Actually his original name was Wallace Muhammad and it is said that before he was even born Master Fard told Elijah what to name him by carving it out.


Warith fell out with his father back in the 60s on differnt occasions and actually got put out of the temple atleast once.

He took a trip to Mecca and after noticing the differences between Al Islam and NOI beliefs, he started raising a lot of quetions which put him at odds with some of the brothers and got put out.

A lot of brothers in the NOI see him as a supremen hypocrite for denouncing the original teachings of the Black man being god and the white man being the devil.

But Farrakhan now teaches the Blacks can be devils too.

It is the same Wallace Muhammad who raised questions concerning the "white brethre" he encountered in Mecca who also had developed a relationship with brother Malcolm X (Malik El-Shabazz) and informed him concerning his father's alledged "polygamous" relationships with MGT secretaries in the Phoenix mansion.
 
info-moetry said:
peace,

To get the full understanding of brother Warith D. Muhammad and why he broke from his father's teachings, we must study what the Arabs ALSO tried too do with El Hajj Malik El Shabazz. When Malcolm and Elijah were on the outs, the Arabs came at El Hajj with $5 millilon too start A NEW ORTHODOX version of Islaam here in the West. THis meeting was also attended by the late great Dr. John Henrik CLarke and documented in "A Great and Mighty Walk" narrated by Wesley Snipes. Dr. Clarke tells how after Malcolm turned the money down, he and Dr. Clarke were walking down the street and Malcolm turned and said too him "swine eater (malcolm's nickname for Dr. Clarke because he ate pork) let me buy you a cup of coffee"!Malcolm turned them down, still staying loyal too Elijah though he was dissapointed in what he was finding out.....

The same was done with Warith D. Muhammad, only this time the offer was accepted which is why he made so many DRASTIC changes ONCE his father was gone.HE DID WHAT MALCOLM REFUSED TOO DO, WARITH DEEN MUHAMMAD SOLD OUT the NATION OF ISLAM!!!!! He was TAUGHT the Arab way of Islaam (which is not TRUE Islam as taught by the Prophet P.B.U.H) & how too present it too his black people here in the WEST so it would be accepted........! Leaving out of course the fact that DARK skin in the EAST is still frowned upon in ISLAAM too this day!!

YES, Warith had questions about his fathers teachings, as most of Elijah's followers had at one time or another....when Elijah passed on, Warith was crowned and became leader with no rival not even Farrakhan though the two were at odds over the direction of the NEW Nation of Islam. Warith caused many Muslim families too LOSE money they had invested in the Nation of Islam for most of their lives, simply too please his new Arab masters........

Many muslims fell out with Warith Deen, causing many people too get seriously hurt on all sides because of his decision. You don't just wake up in the morning and decide too take a NATION in a different direction without the CONSENT of said NATION without bloodshed..........so he was willing too risk his own people's blood as a sacrifice too show his Arab financial backers that he was with them all the way........

Farrakhan slowly backed away and out of the Nation of Islam quietly, now that he knew how too do it after seeing how El Hajj did it loudly.....

The Islam Warith was taught, is the watered down version of what our Arab captors gave too us when they enslaved us after getting the Roman so called Christians off of our backs..

Warith destroyed what his father built down too the ground, under the influence of those who did not have his or the black Nation's best interest at heart.....he fell for da okie doke & is now comfortable with it and has been for a long long time...................

How do you TEACH about a GOD misnamed ALLAH too a people you have ENSLAVED and say that that GOD loves you??????

YES, Warith is internationally KNOWN......he become VERY FAMOUS after WARITH got down on HIS KNEES TO KISS THE POPE'S RING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:kiss1: :donttell:


It is not true that there was no challenge to Warith Deen's sucession. In fact, there was a split between the Chicago and Detroit temples, and remember, Farrakhan base of power was in the Harlem Temple.

Ever heard of "Silas" Muhammad?
 
Moorfius said:
Hotep

For those who are not and were not involved in anything concerning the major struggles of Africans in America, and are satisfied to sit back and do nothing except to criticize the giants among us who one would be priviledged to tie the shoe strings of such great leaders among us, it is good advice to know exactly what you are talking about or don't say anything. Most of the so-called criticizers were not in Rome or any ware else, to make a statment and spout out unlearned speculations that W.D. Mohammed kissed the Popes ring is incorrect. http://www.newafricaradio.com
For those who don't have the heart or mind to involve them self in any real fight to free them self, let alone what it takes to understand what is really going on in this world we live in, are really trying to cover up and trivialize Africans struggle in favor of the enemies who are a well advanced and organized power that will take "All" of us to overcome in the proper time. We (Africans) are diverse as well, and are far more advanced than the ordenary ones among us could posibly know, if all information is received "Second-Hand" or no hand, by the western media and their simpathizers. As always, all of the so-called prophets are in total and absolute agreement, and are parts of the devine plan; it is the corrupt injections and omissions that we are left with if we are not truly sincere in our intentions to seak out the "Truth", It is the so-called followers who are in "Error" today and are at "War", claming to be followers of the "Prophets of their choice",...but in reality are "Not" followers of any thing except deceptions and untruths, in the name of what ever. African proverb: "When the student is ready, the Master will appear"...For some of us, the master will appear and will not be recognised because they don't know what to look for and even worse, the Master did not appear for them who refuse to drink after being guided to the (water) "Truth".

Ase`

Above is the webcast of the meeting between W.D. Mohammed and the Pope, see for your self if there was any kissing of any ring.


WOW, I am unlearned because you disagree with what I said............Or not even what I said as you only focused on "the kissing of the ring" brother!

why would you only focus on that part and nothing else that I said if you really wanted too address me directly??

A brother of mine has the picture of WARITH ON A KNEE KISSING THE POPE''S RING BROTHER...........don't let your emotions blind you!!


& on that 19 minute EDITEDvideo link you provided............let me just respectfully say that the visit was much LONGER than that & he himself spoke on how taken back he was too meet "his holiness"!!!!!!!

You are correct brother, one must TRULY be sincere about seeking out the truth .......In the dialogue near the end Warith even calls the POPE HIS HOLINESS...........HOLY a word in Islam reserved SOLEY for the Qu'ran and the PROPHET Muhammad........

In the beginning of the 16th Surah (chapter) called An-Nahl (The Bee)of the HOLY Qu'ran it reads:

"In the name of ALLAH, the Gracious, the Merciful.
The decree of ALLAH is at hand, so seek ye not to hasten it. Holy is HE and exalted far above all that which they associate with HIM. (1) HE sends down the angels with revelation by HIS command on whomsoever of HIS servants HE pleases, saying, `Warn people that there is no god but I, so take ME alone for your protector.' (2) HE has created the heavens and the earth in accordance with the requirements of wisdom. Exalted is HE far above all that they associate with Him.

I humbly leave you in peace.............
 

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