Black People : War is evil.

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  1. KingSango

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    I can list various reasons to why war is evil, concluding that war is necessary sometimes overrides the point of why war is evil and serves to only downplay the wise warning. After considerable study of West Africa history and I've discovered the primary cause of Slavery was war between kingdoms in West Africa. Prime example the Yoruba, an highly advanced culture and civilization that produced empires, king lead by higher kings and kings lead by councils, along with social-political and religious hierarchies that proceeded all known civilizations of Earth, Ile Ife goes back 10,000 before Christ. But this great original civilization became consumed with a civil war that weakened it so much Europeans easily moved in and conquered them. This was the primary cause of slavery, nothing more and nothing less, prisoners of war were captured and sold to European traders into slavery. This is why I am dismayed at African Americans support for President Obama, who is celebrated as the first Black President but nonetheless continues down the path of war along with his predecessors of U.S Presidents who spent every year 75% of the U.S budget since start of WWII on war machines produced by the Military Industrial Complex. We fail to see that war is never a necessary evil unless one is in direct defense of one's life or sovereignty, the U.S promotes a preemptive war policy that is contradict to the principle of war when necessary.

    Many Muslims, Christians, Jews and Hebrews are staunch believers in a warring messiah who is to return to earth or come to make war. I strongly disagree with such beliefs, as a believer in Ifa and traditional African beliefs I contend that war exists outside of universal balance and serves more the savage than the civilized man. Reason for such strong beliefs is that I can't find anywhere in history any advanced civilization that was founded upon war. So I insist that if any messiah or universal change comes upon the Earth it will come from constructiveness of peace and not the destructiveness of war. The is no such thing as a holy war for God doesn't need man to fight His battles, God has the wind, ice, snow, hurricanes and all the destructive forces of nature to fight His battles and destroy the wicked.

    The people who will survive to see the coming age of enlightenment are those souls who develope within themselves character as Ifa teaches. Rulers must spare the people death by not fowarding war but education and trade, cultivation of their minds instead destruction of their bodies. Those who make spiritual, physical or economic war will be destroyed from this earth in the coming decades. And those who make peace by building civilization and promoting all humanity will be the winners of a very dark time.

    I suggest putting together public trust funds within the African-American communities, if there is to come any reparations or repair of the damages incurred to our psyches it will come from out of our own pockets, like what Elijah Muhammad brought and Marcus Garvey. The only answer to evil is to promote good, trade schools must be established to teach our young people skills, investing in the vast resources of Africa to bring economic relief worldwide to Africa diaspora and Africa. We must remember that how we got into this mess by war and we must not sleep the vast opportunities that exist on the continent, a great wealth that can bring great change.

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    sekou kasimu PanAfrikanist Revolutionary MEMBER

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    The primary cause of Afrikan slavery, was the European need for a free labor supply, to do the work that Europeans were too lazy to do! :) Why does this sound like an excuse to keep from fighting?
     
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    The Yoruba and the Dahomey Wars lead to many prisoners of war being sold to Europeans for guns. White Supremacy didn't rise upon its own, it gained assistance by our ancestors who were not so moral as believed. Many Kings and Chiefs sold criminals to the the Europeans and later when they ran out of criminals they started wars with their weaker neighbors as opportunities to capture slaves. Many wars were fought in order to make smaller kingdoms pay tribute to larger and more powerful kingdoms, tribute included virgins and many times slaves.

    We must remember the narrowness of ignorance will never defeat the vastness of wisdom.
     
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    Most of what you wrote is factual and I agree to a degree! Especially the last sentence! However, I have a somewhat different interpretation of the facts. :) The sellouts you described were the exception to the rule, and I believe, based on my research, that their numbers were exaggerated! The fact remains that whites created the demand (market) for slaves, and a lot of sellouts were tricked, bribed and/or pressured into supplying that demand. Finally, I can't help but wonder if the emphasis placed on this particular aspect of our enslavement, is an excuse not to unite and fight back, because ******* can't be trusted? :mad: Show me one group of people that whites enslaved, who didn't have sellouts, and traitors among them! :( P.S. According to Dr. John Henrik Clarke, because of the different meaning of "slave" in Afrika, a lot of sellouts did not understand, the hell that they were selling other Afrikans into.
     
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    I don't usually read long drawn out posts such as the foregoing! :( I"m glad I made an exception in your case, because now I understand! ;) I don't have a lot of patience with those who need to pontificate, and demonstrate their "vast and superior knowledge" of our history, but don't seem to understand that we are at war! ;) If ya scared, say ya scared and stay out of the way! :mad: Hiding behind spirituality, religion, astrology, conspiracy theories, mysticism, etc., won't suffice! :( We are at war, and "cowardice in the face of the enemy" is a concept of war! ;)
     
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    I find your discussion style to be very aggressive and misleading, especially your comments about my character pertaining to me being a coward, I am no coward. I practice proficiently some of the most lethal martial arts on Earth, I have plenty of fight experience and have fought many above my size and weight category and defeated them. I am a huge fan of fighting arts because one should always be prepared for war. And if such display of skills deters an enemy then it is much better than being perceived as weak and encouraging the envious. Not saying there is no need for an army but no such army can exist here in the U.S that would be loyal to Africa.

    Yet I do believe war is evil also it is the philosophical beliefs of traditional Africa, those who have promoted war are responsible for the current dire conditions that have left Africa open to attack from her enemies. I agree with the many Yoruba scholars that Europeans benefited from the timing, they invaded the Niger area (Nigeria) shortly after the Yoruba were just finishing a long civil war. During such wars prisoners who were captured were sold to Europeans slave traders. The slave trade didn't weaken Africa but these civil wars and internal conflicts between various kingdoms is what put the nail in the coffin. Yet in still we continue to fight amongst each other philosophically.

    As I have said before and I say again and no one has disputed me yet, no civilization which has advanced human life and culture did so from making war. This is what the Europeans have failed to understand. And as Europeans are the teachers of all colonized and enslaved groups of Africans, we have also promoted the idea of war being necessary sometimes, which in my opinion such a door once opened never has closed. We continue to fight, for 2000 years we have been fighting and not building as our ancestors did long ago. This is why cities lay in ruin, Yoruba, Dahomey, Ashanti, Axum and many great Africa kingdoms lack infrastructure such as simple roads that connect towns and commerce regions.

    I know amongst many African-American conscious and liberation communities exists provocateur agents, they huff and puff only to draw out naive persons into committing stupid acts of violence that would only get them blacklisted, imprisoned or killed. War is not the answer to the problems we face as a human race, we need to improve the character of our people and promote skills, trade and education. I prefer an army of Humanitarian teachers, engineers, well disciplined civil servants and we can build infrastructure, bring relief to dying African communities worldwide and that would be the war we could win. We war against disease, poverty, ignorance and all the evil forces of nature that have destroyed our inheritance of the great civilization of Africa.
     
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    Bull****! Like I said, if ya scared, say ya scared and stay out of the way! "Stop making cowards out of our sons", George Jackson! :mad: So you studied and trained in SPORT martial arts! You might be good in tournament fighting, with rules of fair play like boxing, but that doesn't necessarily mean you have the courage/skill for real life hand to hand combat! With or without a weapon, and no rules of fair play. ;) ALL IS FAIR IN WAR!!! :)
     
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    There's no discussion here, you are just trolling, you have yet to make an intellectual point so I'm blocking you.
     
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    this is par for the course for this poster....
    kudos for peeping the scene....

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    war for war sake(i.e. financial gain) is evil....
    war to protect ur people's ideologies is necessary....

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