Black People : US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years

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  1. RAPTOR

    RAPTOR Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    by Donovan X. Ramsey

    Former U.S. airman is currently sitting in a Florida prison for what his supporters argue was a simple act of self-defense.

    Just two years into a 25-year sentence, he joins a list of cases that have drawn national attention to the Sunshine State’s sentencing and gun laws. Encouraged by the activity, his family is hoping to stir up interest in his case and is currently petitioning Florida’s governor for clemency.

    In the spring of 2010, 26-year-old Michael Giles was on active duty with the Unites States Air Force and stationed in Tampa. The married father of three had recently finished two tours in the Middle East and was looking forward to a career in the military, says his family. One night in February, a friend invited Giles to party at a Tallahassee nightclub. Shorty after arriving, a fight broke out among members of fraternities from nearby Florida A&M University.

    According to court documents, an argument quickly escalated into a brawl involving 30 to 40 young men.

    Giles reportedly was not involved in the melee but, separated from his friends, went outside to the car where he had a gun, for which he had a concealed carry permit. Giles put the weapon in his pants pocket and searched the crowd for his friends. Suddenly, he says, someone from the crowd punched him. Knocked to the ground and in fear for his life, Giles says he pulled out the gun and fired one shot into the leg of his alleged attacker.

    Three men were injured, wounded by bullet fragments. Giles was immediately arrested and charged with second-degree attempted murder.

    Read more: http://thegrio.com/2013/12/04/us-airman-stands-his-ground-in-florida-sentenced-to-25-years/
     
  2. sekou kasimu

    sekou kasimu PanAfrikanist Revolutionary MEMBER

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    This is a close one to call. I don't know about Florida law, but in Maryland one can only use the amount of force necessary to repel the attack. Meaning if you are attacked with fists you can only use your fist in self defense, because fists aren't usually fatal. If the attacker is a trained martial artist, or boxer than you might get away with using a gun. Especially if you shoot him in the leg. But shooting into a crowd? I don't think the court will let you get away with that. I suspect the determining factor will be the race of the parties involved. So what else is new uh man? :(
     
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    you left out the important part......[​IMG]
     
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    You forget that Zimmerman was acquitted on the basis of using his gun to stop a fist fight. Moreover, he used deadly force. I submit, the call really isn't that close





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    Had a white man defended himself in this manner from Black youths, even if he had killed them, don't we all KNOW that he wouldn't even be charged with a crime [as underlined by the Zimmerman case] as opposed to being sent to jail for 25 years, after being violently physically attacked, and subsequently standing his ground/defending himself with non lethal force?
    Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
    graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?
     
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    It surely screams "HYPOCRISY!"

    Then I think about the "alleged attacker" comment and wonder if he shot at his attacker or someone else out of fear.

    Also, the other two that were injured by his attempted retaliation (in which he went to garnish his weapon of interest, coming back to stand his ground) potentially removes the connection between the "Zimmerman" case and this one.

    Do the others that were injured by the bullet fragments have any rights to file charges against their attacker, or were they rightfully targeted unintentionally?

    Laws laws laws laws...

    Laws are meant to confuse the heck out of most of us anyway, and by the end of it all we eventually lose fragments of our own conscious humanity in attempting to adhere to and relate to them.
     
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    You forgot the race of the parties involved! ;) Whites encourage blacks to kill blacks, but not whites for any reason. :)
     
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    Here in the UK [in Nottingham] an unarmed brother was attacked with a knife on a bus by 4 white men, but he still managed to defend himself, nearly killed the white man with his own knife, thus you KNOW what happened don't you?

    He received a ten year sentence for too expertly defending himself, which begs the question what would have happened if he had killed his armed attacker, wouldn't he have got LIFE [for so very obviously not embracing his automatic VICTIM in waiting status within their legal system] as opposed to the very consistent manner that whites NEVER EVER get jailed for murdering us especially the police/murdered Chris Alder a paratrooper who had actually fought for the UK, Smiley Culture [an associate of mine who managed to stab himself in the heart as 10 policemen were questioning him at his home] and a Nigerian businessman in Woolwich, south London who was [only visiting the UK/5 of them jumped on him Rodney King style] in a disturbance but hadn't actually committed a crime?

    Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
    graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?
     
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    And I'm surprised by often y'all are surprised, when we fail to get justice in the white man's court!
     
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    Here in the UK [in Nottingham] an unarmed brother was attacked with a knife on a bus by 4 white men, but he still managed to defend himself, nearly killed the white man with his own knife, thus you KNOW what happened don't you?
    He received a ten year sentence for too expertly defending himself, which begs the question what would have happened if he had killed his armed attacker, wouldn't he have got LIFE [for so very obviously not embracing his automatic VICTIM in waiting status within their legal system] as opposed to the very consistent manner that whites NEVER EVER get jailed for murdering us especially the police?
    Chris Alder a paratrooper who had actually fought for the UK died after being very forcefully restrained/arrested by the police, Smiley Culture [an associate of mine who managed to stab himself in the heart/commit suicide, while being arrested by 10 policemen in his home] and a Nigerian businessman in Woolwich, south London who was [only visiting the UK/5 of them jumped on him Rodney King style] in a disturbance who hadn't actually committed a crime?
    In a European country what other court is going to be available, whereas isn’t the point the fact that THEY KNOW that they are being institutionally racist, they just don’t care [because they are particularly despicably malicious murderous COWARDS] would like us to consciously embrace being perpetual victims as opposed to fighting back?
    Isn’t ANYONE who genuinely believes they are not programmed
    graphically illustrating that their programming is COMPLETE?
     
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