Black People : Unpopular opinions

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  1. African_Prince

    African_Prince Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Do you hold any controversial opinions? You don't necessarily have to justify or defend your opinions, only to state them. I think I have a few :

    1) Suicide should be discouraged but 'legal'. Throwing people into a rubber room and forcing medication down their throat is condescending and paternalistic, it violates their right to self-autonomy and it's pointless because it doesn't improve their quality of life. We shouldn't pat ourselves on the back for preserving life if we're not going to help alleviate the person's suffering. Psychiatric hospitals are only useful if their patients are there voluntarily. Medically assisted suicide in cases where the person is in the final stages of some terminal illness or suffering from some irreversible agony should be encouraged.

    2) Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, not a mental illness. Prejudice and discrimination against non-active pedophiles is as morally wrong as prejudice and discrimination against homosexuals or any other minority. Furthermore, simulated child porn should be legal. Computer generated images are not sentient beings, they do not have interests that we're morally obligated to protect. There is no logical reason to illegalize simulated, child porn if no actual child was involved in it's making, some people have a hysterical, emotional response to the issue of pedophilia that prevents them from analyzing the issue without bias.

    3) Discrimination against sexually promiscuous women is also morally wrong and conservatives have no right to force their Judeao-Christian based values regarding sex on people of different lifestyles. Gays should be allowed to legally marry (and to adopt), polyamorous people should be allowed to legally marry more than one person (and to adopt) and prostitution should be legal.

    4) Women should have the right to an abortion (this isn't necessarily 'controversial' but disputed by many). Before the fetus develops a functioning nervous system it is (presumably) an insentient thing and deserves no moral regard. After the fetus develops a functioning nervous system it is (presumably) a sentient being and deserves moral regard but his or her interests should not trump the interests of the mother.

    5) The death penalty should be abolished (again, not very controversial but disputed by many). The prison system should be drasticallly altered to the point where it is no longer recognizable. The current prison system should eventually be replaced by placing criminals in psychiatric hospitals not targeted towards criminals alone or putting them on house arrest. ( I know I said that psychiatric hospitals are only useful if their patients are there voluntarily but you forfeit your right to freedom of movement/self-autonomy when you infringe upon the rights of others, it's a matter of protecting society rather than punishing criminals for it's own sake.) Nobody should be given a life sentence with no possible hope of parole, regardless of their crime.

    6) Non-humans animals (with the exception of those who lack a nervous system) should be legally regarded as 'persons'. Killing or mistreating a non-human animal is as morally wrong as killing or mistreating another human. We should provide existing, domesticated, non-human animals with food, shelter and love but stop breeding anymore for experimentation, clothing, food, entertainment, companionship or any other purpose. We should also stop encroaching on the territories of 'wild', non-human animals (ie. deforestation).


    7) All third world debt to wealthy nations should be abolished.

    8) Considering the issue of global warming (the ecological impact of humans generally and the developed world especially) and the fact that there are so many already existing orphans that need good homes/loving parents, reproducing is selfish and morally irresponsible.

    I know there's more but that's all that immediatly comes to mind.
     
  2. Ikoro

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    Well... good sir.

    Something in your writing reminds me of Peter Singer, are you familiar with his work?

    Interesting article, I wanted to make something similar about me.. I just might after this. Would you mind expounding ever so slightly on your pedophilia sentiment? As a liberal Afrikan Centred thinker I can nod to most your statements here, more as a form of acknowledgement than agreement.. but that pedophilia bit didn't sit well with me.

    When dealing with sex, we must also deal with the psyche. To many white thinkers in the west (and elsewhere), sex is sort of like a natural force (much like a hurrice, a storm, a forest, a flood or the like) to be conquered and subdued - controlled.

    As it has been said before, we cannot hope to understand sex and gender until we clarify our attitude toward nature (Paglia). For whites, this is very true, as they are alienated from most things considered "natural" to Activated Spiritual persons.

    If you condone something, then it is a form of support, not so? As many will agree, sex is the point of contact between man and nature, where morality and good intentions fall to primitive urges. When these urges are not under supervision (by the Self) nasty things take place.

    Your whole point (#2) suffers from unresolved contradictions ("non-active pedophiles"?), so I ask you to clarify a bit more on where you are coming from with the type of thinking that says it is ok to legitimize violating (or fantasizing about doing so) another sentient being not capable of understanding itself fully, or the individual assaulting it.

    I would like to call that type of sentiment, attitude and thinking - in the true words of late Elder Amos Wilson "sick" (read his books on diagnosing within white supremacy).

    I await eagerly your intellectual response. In the meantime, I will hurry to the gym for a physical repose.... my Brother.

    Not to sound like a fascist, but thoughts, just like pedophiles, when left alone and to their own device... can be dangerous.

    One.

    - Ikoro
     
  3. Kamau47

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    Homosexuality, gays, lesbians, same sex marriage, all of it should be wrong and outlawed.
    Sorry, but I'm not the type to follow public opinion and popular beliefs. All of it was once wrong, and still should be.
     
  4. Ikoro

    Ikoro Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Brother Kamau...

    Certainly, you are not proposing that said things (homo etc) should be outlawed on the premise that "all of it was once wrong"?

    One.

    - Ikoro
     
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    1) Professional Black folks need to make more babies.

    2) Since it's okay for homosexuals to get on their partner's health benefits... It should be cool for unmarried same sex couples to get on their partner's beneifts too!

    3) Since I don't have children in public schools, my property taxes should be cut in **** half!

    4) I refuse to adjust my behavior because another person cannot handle the me that I am
     
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    The IRS is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and should be abolished. Income tax should go away and there should be a flat tax on CONSUMPTION...i.e. sales tax. That way CRIMINALS and RICH PEOPLE pay just as much...or more than us struggling middle class folk. As it stands...criminals pay no income tax and rich people MAKE MONEY on it by creating trusts and foundations. In addition..there is not ONE law that says you have to pay income tax. You VOLUNTARILY AGREE when you sign a tax return.

    COMPLETELY OVERHAUL OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM...because it is not about justice it is about money and politics. This can be done in 2 large steps...use lie detectors (3 independent tests) and INCLUDING ALL EVIDENCE that is not discovering illegally. The only objections to lie detectors are that they are only 90 percent effective. Well, getting 10 percent of the case wrong as opposed to 60 percent right now is a huge improvement.

    Burn the constitution and start over. After all...we are still just 3/5ths of a person in it.
     
  7. Khasm13

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    regardless of how rich the area u live in is...
    all schools should be allocated the same amount of money per student....
    this excludes colleges and trades schools....

    one love
    khasm
     
  8. roarin1

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    What the he!! is this?

    I'VE been waiting for someone to appropriately respond....but it has not been forth-coming so.....if you want something done right, YOU gotta do it YOURSELF.

    Here WE go gettin banned again. But If I would ever be given the opportunity........... I would draw and quarter your *** for even trying to post these pedophilia dreams ( anywhere! ) 'round MY People.

    Do you know what it means to be drawn and quartered? Well.....let ME explain it you.

    It means to have your stomach cut open from the pelvic area to the solar plexis with a rusty/dull sabere' blade, then have your intestines placed upon your chest with ropes tied to each wrist and ankle----to fresh horses (all four limbs----thus 'quarters'....) until the shock just about sets in----and then send the horses to the four winds with a mighty gallop----with your limbs following torn, bloody and trembling....but closely behind.


    (Now. That feels better.)
     
  9. roarin1

    roarin1 Banned MEMBER

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    Oh yeah......

    ^^^^

    Not only is everything that I just mentioned 'anatomically' possible but, a 'tried and true form of mid-evil torture. Just ask the krakkkas.
     
  10. Khasm13

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    when kids under 18 commit felonies the parents should take part of the blame....
    meaning they should do a mandated portion of the final sentence...

    one love
    khasm
     
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