Black People : Understanding the 5% Nation

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  1. Knowledge Seed

    Knowledge Seed Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I created this thread so that people could ask questions about the 5 percenters. Whatever you want to know about us, just ask. I'm hoping Brother Allah and Sister Bootzey will chime in and answer some questions as well.
     
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    Question (excuse my ignornance)

    Why are the acronyms I. S. L. A. M. or A. L. L.A.H.(nuemonic devices) used "exclusively" to codify the "Culture" for the NGE?

    Could the Knowledge, Wisdom, Understanding be codified or presented in a completely different format (womb) and still be just as authentic?
     
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    Just my couple


    Why would you accept the creation of a man who used to be a part of a different "religion"?

    What standard do you use to measure the "truth" of your faith?

    Do you consider your faith to be the end all be all of spirituality?
     
  4. Knowledge Seed

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    I.S.L.A.M breaks down as I-Self-Lord-Am-Master, which basically says you are the ruler of yourself. A.L.L.A.H breaks into Arm-Leg-Leg-Arm-Head showing god to be a physical being and not some ghost in the sky. These nuemonic devices are used to represent OUR culture. We use those terms exclusively to separate ourselves from the Muslims.
     
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    You said religion as if we are a religion, when we are not. I have no faith. Thats fooolish. I measure my CULTURE through mathematics. Truth is subjective to perspective, but when mathematics is employed you can't go wrong. No my CULTURE is not an end to spirituality, if anything its the beginning to it. Many Gods and Earths are very spiritual and do venture off into different spiritual systems, but they always remain grounded in mathematics.
     
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    Peace bruh,

    From being around NGE followers, I am well aware of the acromyns used. I even dappled in the terminology, but I think what Bro. MenNefer was asking is why is it used? Couldn't other terminology have been used? It argues closely to a possible fact that NGE was a creature of its time when Islam and Islamic and Masonic references were vogue and it also advances the possibility that the crafters of NGE ideology were limited in their knowledge sources. It's similiar to a person saying they have master Kemetic science and belief but they use the Greek renderings of Kemetic terms. I understand one can not find fault in the language or point of reference used, but it can raise questions ya dig.

    Without trying to beat a dead horse, the example is someone could have just as easily used Christian terms and words to explain a culture of mathematics. Someone could have used JESUS (Just Emperor Seeing the Universe Systems)the way ALLAH (Arm Leg Leg Arm Head) is used, although it wouldn't be as snazzy. Actually, I once wrote a system for personal use that informs my overall worldview - it's my system of self-governance based on mathematics (fractals). I'm not looking for followers so please no solicitations. It's just my truth.

    That said I respect the Five.

    Blackbird
     
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    Well you have to remember that during this time, just as it is today, most blacks were christians. the religion of Islam, as taught by The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, was seen as an alternative to the short comings of Chritianity. Allah, the Father, took Islam from being a religion to being a culture. At the same time you have to remember the religion of Islam has played a major role in Black History.
     
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    Brother Knowledge Seed ... this is PEACE! :D ... oh gosh, is that an acronym too ... PEACE?

    I don't really have any questions, just beaming at the gesture and love. Thank You! :bowdown:

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    That's a decent response, but the fact remains that Christian terminology could also have been used as a means as well since actual Islam has nothing to do with it.

    I like when people use the word "culture" as in "hiphop culture" and the like. I think we need a working definition of culture. What is culture?

    Indeed, Islam has played a major role in Black history - some of it not too flattering. I believe I had Islamic ancestors based on the names in the Census. Islam should never be slighted but.....

    Blackbird
     
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    Yes PEACE is an acronym. It can mean many things. I draw it up as:
    Proper
    Education
    Always
    Corrects
    Errors
     
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