Black People : U.S. Can Confine Citizens Indefinitely

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  1. karmashines

    karmashines Banned MEMBER

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    U.S. Can Confine Citizens Without Charges, Court Rules

    By Jerry Markon
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Saturday, September 10, 2005; Page A01

    A federal appeals court yesterday backed the president's power to indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen captured on U.S. soil without any criminal charges, holding that such authority is vital during wartime to protect the nation from terrorist attacks.

    The ruling, by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, came in the case of Jose Padilla, a former gang member and U.S. citizen arrested in Chicago in 2002 and a month later designated an "enemy combatant" by President Bush. The government contends that Padilla trained at al Qaeda camps and was planning to blow up apartment buildings in the United States. Padilla has been held without trial in a U.S. naval brig for more than three years, and his case has ignited a fierce battle over the balance between civil liberties and the government's power to fight terrorism since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. A host of civil liberties groups and former attorney general Janet Reno weighed in on Padilla's behalf, calling his detention illegal and arguing that the president does not have unchecked power to lock up U.S. citizens indefinitely.

    Opponents have warned that if not constrained by the courts, Padilla's detention could lead to the military being allowed to hold anyone who, for example, checks out what the government considers the wrong kind of reading materials from the library.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2005/09/09/AR2005090900772.html
     
  2. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    Hey Karma,

    Do you think it's possible the Dubya might be the reinceration of Joseph McCarthy?

    Don't be surprised if Homeland Security forms an UnAmerikkkan Activities Committee.
     
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    karmashines Banned MEMBER

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    lol, there do seem to be a lot of similarities.
     
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    So now no one should have any doubts what this war in Iraq is all about. It's to give Bush an excuse to institute marshall law in this country>
     
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    It has been like this since the Patriot Act was passed.
     
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    i say this will not be used for the betterment of our ppl.
     
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    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    And you can say that again too, sista.

    Anyone who doesn't get drafted to Iraq or thrown in jail for legitimate reasons can be taken off the streets for no reason at all. So what do you want---what's behind door number one, door number two or door number three?
     
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    OldSoul Permanent Black Man PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I'd just like to mention...

    the u.s. government has been confining Black people indefinitely for quite some time.
    The Honorable Marcus Garvey, one of the most powerful and internationally known Black men of his time was confined in a federal prison and then deported.
    Jack Johnson, Heavyweight Champion of the World and internationally known, was confined in federal prison for a number of years.
    Paul Robeson had his passport suspended and was confined to the u.s. borders for some years.
    The Honorable Elijah Muhammad was confined in federal prison for several years.
    Muhammad Ali, Heavyweight Champion of the World and internationally known, had his title taken and his passport suspended for several years.
    James Brown, Godfather of Soul and internationally known, was confined for several years.
    Martin Luther King was confined on several occasions.
    The list can go on and on, but my point is that we have never been protected by the constitution or the laws. Not then, not now. Have no expectations and you will not be caught by surprise.
     
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    Nothing new under the sun
     
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    Especially since the government is trying it's hardest to file black and latino gangs in the same category as terrorist as of late. This means that this could happen to any gang member (or pressumed gang member)whether they are planning any attacks or not. This is one more step at taking away any rights we may have. Even if groups that are anti-american, but have no affiliation with al quada, could be looked upon as terrorist. Pretty soon, the government will be able to pluck anyone off the street and hold them without trial or reason, and it will all be according to the laws. The Patriots Act is b/s along with this country.
     
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