Black People : Types of spirit

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    there are spirits that give and share and are creative

    and there are spirits that dwell on negativty and fester on old fruit

    White supremacy is one type and Black unity and upliftment is another

    each can deside which path they will follow
     
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    What i s the type of spirit that motivates the corporatocracy?

    Is the overiding spirit of the corporate good, a mentality or spirit or motivation to give or share?
    to provide an honest product for an honest price?

    Why were loan agents offered 4 to 5 thousand dollar bonuses to sell subprime mortgages and only 700. for regular legal mortgages?

    Why was health care so affordable before the HMOs came on the scene, and doctors did house calls and gave you real advice when you visited them instead of justwriting a prescription, referal to a speialist and out the door in 5 minutes?

    What was the defense department about before the Military Industrial Complex and what politico-economic Frankensteins did Eisenhower see come to creation when he warned the public bout it?

    From evrything we see;

    Music , television, movies, theater, education, medicine, savings, food shopping, there has been a gradual lessening of quality and a real hustle factor, iminent.

    Marimba Ani speaks of the spirit of this controlling and spoilng spirit also termed White Supremacy, as Yurugu.

    However as much as the Yurugu tries it cannot dampen each and evry person of African descent's inner creative spirit, to give, share, be imaginative, inovative , be creative, and progressive.

    The greatest fear they have is the amont of power that that unified and focused spirit can produce in liberating and nurturing the planet.
     
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    Putney Swope Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    regarding Yurugu

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k9-qSdjaqk"]YouTube - RBG- YURUGU Workshop 3 of 19 Dr Marimba Ani[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8qAE4WM9nU"]YouTube - RBG YURUGU Workshop 4 of 19 Dr Marimba Ani[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2_K2W-5AEY"]YouTube - RBG- YURUGU Workshop 5 of 19 Dr Marimba Ani[/ame]
     
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    Khalid Muhammed makes it plain

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abLG00ls8LY&feature=related"]YouTube - Sean Hannity vs Khalid Muhammad (part 1)[/ame]
     
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    A sprit that has to conform, fit in, lock –step with, go along with and is filled by followers rather than independent creative thinkers and doers. That have the need or inclination to follow rigid or complex procedures impeding effective action or progress. Those of like mind and sprit openly and for the all mighty dollar, sell their own empathetic ( kind-hearted ) spirit and is willing to conform to a controlled management style and procedure. Prepared to join in, support and further the creation of red tape that slows down practical and sound processes and procedures. Like the Department of Motor Vehicles.



    No the corporate sprit is not good, because the bottom line is one must to win against other. Be cut throats out to gather the limited dollars spent in a given market, or be deceptive and build things fast and cheap, knowing they barely pass safety testing. The drive is to corner market share, take all and give nothing to win. Call it competitive technique, but to lie, steal, cheat and crush both workers and other companies.. smaller businesses in the machinations and machinery of corporate business along with crushing the competition. Is wrong.

    In 2005 I did 3 months of FCC and Compliance testing on new products. If the passed I would have to submit for the license for the company thru the FCC, or UL, or CE certification. I was in the safety lab. There was this coffee pot. A new one. It was very cheaply made, looked like a cup of hot coffee would melt it if some spilled. The electrical wiring was just good enough to pass the test. I kept calling it flimsy and cheap, but couldn't fail it. It barely passed and squeaked by the test. So I had to certify it. Many new products barely pass electrical, safety test. Meaning they are about to burn up but if they don't catch on fire in my presence. They have to be passed.

    American Corporate goods made in poorer countries are made cheaper, with cheaper parts, and with inferior parts, made in one or several locations, collected assembled in another cheaper country. Then labeled with Brand names.

    Marked up 300 to 3000 percent over cost. ( shipping, labor and stuff ) No the honesty is not present in any countries manufacturing. The plan is to buy cheap sell high. Same structure as the stock market. Paying the share holders, a few multi-millionaires that need to feed off the bottom ( citizens ) of their country and keep them the loop of need and debt. Tangible ( material ) items that we desire that will break, need warranty or fixing in six months or when the ( time calculated these inferior parts will quit working ) warranty time calculated will expire. Consumable items we need all the time. Replacing them weekly or daily to eat.

    No we don’t get a fair deal. Honest means… making a fair profit, delivering a good product that will last and creating a customer service program to handle the missteps and items that fall outside probability of breaking.



    Bush set us all up, he set the world up. Europe and China all bought our bundled bad loans, and they were the ones who received the Bush bail out money. To pay the European banks for tricking them. Bush was trying to crash the U.S. market, get us all against each other Black and White. The South thought it was a time to rise again. Then they thought. A black President. Let him get in. This way we can blame him… get all Americans blaming him and we can win. They could say… see he ( blacks ) mess up everything they touch. But Barack is no ordinary Brother. He has more powerful white friends than they knew.. they thought he has only the reverend controversy.. You heard the questions.. Who is backing him? He had more than they expected to support him.

    He is smart and articulate and the whole thing right now has republicans and many Americans mesmerized. This is why this is our time again… to be bottom on top. Like our forefathers, ancestor slaves were. This time as we take the high Positions, in offices and in government, we are smarter and more educated. This time it could be maintained.

    Today we have college graduates, more educated African Americans.



    Medicine is a costly education. The drug lobbyist gives the doctors cash to push untested drugs and they get free guinea pigs and field trials. Notice the Lawyers saying. If you took this…drug you have a law suit. If you took that or a family member took this. You have a law suit.

    These crooks are getting the millions and all the class actions victims get $300 each after everyone is paid. Not enough to bury someone. If you go around a think today they are only out to get blacks… wrong… they don’t like each other. I have seen them go after each other.. in the corporate world. Brutal. Under-handed. i'm talking CEO's and Directors going after each other. Money is King… profit the drive. They are discriminating more against us. That is a bonus and a chance to be extra evil.



    The government continues to create war and turmoil. To get the money and profits. War created taxes. Taxes were raised during war to support the cost of weapons. To Keep the world at war, kill off the populations, and have a draft so we are force to enlist, join them or they can lock folks up. Taxes was supposed to stop after the First world war. The IRS was created to police and secure the money. IRS were Gangsters who used to carry machine guns and kick open your door, take your stuff and kill you or take you to jail.




    Blacks want the luxuries too. So those given a taste. Sell out. To music industry, and call our woman names. Star in bad movies. Promoting stereotypes. Our Jesse Jacksons let education become baby sitting institutions for bored children and parents who need it.

    Marimba Ani speaks the truth.

    Yurugu tries it cannot dampen each and every person of African descent's inner creative spirit, to give, share, be imaginative, innovative, be creative, and progressive.

    The greatest fear they have is the amount of power that unified and focused African Americans can muster or bring together in an instant if desired, if we really had to or needed to. If we had to do it out of desperation. Like the Klan came into the hood. We would become a Crushing Unity and Power unmatched on the mat and a hard take down in the end.

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    Read the Farewell Speech of Andrew Jackson to the American People.
    This one read... http://www.reformation.org/jackson_farewell_message.html

    In his farewell speech, the President warns about the dangers of breaking up the Union. He warns about the dangers of a Central Bank and paper money. He says that all that is necessary for the defense of the U.S. is a well armed militia and a well prepared Navy.... Make as many copies of this speech as you can and distribute far and wide.


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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson

    Andrew Jackson (March 15, 1767 – June 8, 1845) was the seventh President of the United States (1829–1837).

    During the election, Jackson's opponents referred to him as a "jackass." Jackson liked the name and used the jackass as a symbol for a while, but it died out. However, it later became the symbol for the Democratic Party when cartoonist Thomas Nast popularized it.

    Then, in 1836, Jackson issued the Specie Circular, which required buyers of government lands to pay in "specie" (gold or silver coins). The result was a great demand for specie, which many banks did not have enough of to exchange for their notes. These banks collapsed.[27] This was a direct cause of the Panic of 1837, which threw the national economy into a deep depression. It took years for the economy to recover from the damage.

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    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_Andrew_Johnson[/ame]

    Andrew Johnson (December 29, 1808 – July 31, 1875), the 17th President of the United States (1865–69), was the first U.S. President to be impeached, as well as the first U.S. president to succeed to the presidency upon the assassination of his predecessor.

    Andrew Johnson

    The Democratic Party, proclaiming itself the party of white men, North and South, aligned with Johnson

    In practice, Johnson was seemingly not harsh toward the Confederate leaders. He allowed the Southern states to hold elections in 1865, resulting in prominent ex-Confederates being elected to the U.S. Congress; however, Congress did not seat them. Congress and Johnson argued in an increasingly public way about Reconstruction and the manner in which the Southern secessionist states would be readmitted to the Union. Johnson favored a very quick restoration, similar to the plan of leniency that Lincoln advocated before his death.


    [edit] Break with the Republicans: 1866

    Johnson-appointed governments all passed Black Codes that gave the freedmen second class status. In response to the Black Codes and worrisome signs of Southern recalcitrance, the Republicans blocked the readmission of the ex-rebellious states to the Congress in fall 1865.

    Congress also renewed the Freedman's Bureau, but Johnson vetoed it. Senator Lyman Trumbull of Illinois, leader of the moderate Republicans, took affront at the Black Codes. Trumbull proposed the first Civil Rights bill.

    Although strongly urged by moderates in Congress to sign the Civil Rights bill, Johnson broke decisively with them by vetoing it on March 27. His veto message objected to the measure because it conferred citizenship on the freedmen at a time when eleven out of thirty-six states were unrepresented and attempted to fix, by federal law, "a perfect equality of the white and black races in every State of the Union." Johnson said it was an invasion by federal authority of the rights of the states; it had no warrant in the Constitution and was contrary to all precedents.

    It was a "stride toward centralization and the concentration of all legislative power in the national government."[21] Johnson, in a letter to Gov. Thomas C. Fletcher of Missouri, wrote, "This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men."[22]
     
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    BUMP..for TRUMP


    Trump made a statement that Andrew Jackson warnings of the Civil war. Attack to the Union of the United States. Actually Jackson was reminding us of what George Washington had stated.




    Trump mentions Jackson... WHY?
    Because he can't help but tip his hand.

    What stands out is how this speech actually outlines present day scenario's. Don't be fooled. we are being set-up!

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson

    Andrew Jackson (March 15, 1767 – June 8, 1845) was the seventh President of the United States (1829–1837).
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    These cheering and grateful prospects and these multiplied favors we owe, under Providence, to the adoption of the Federal Constitution. It is no longer a question whether this great country can remain happily united and flourish under our present form of government. Experience, the unerring test of all human undertakings, has shown the wisdom and foresight of those who formed it, and has proved that in the union of these States there is a sure foundation for the brightest hopes of freedom and for the happiness of the people. At every hazard and by every sacrifice this Union must be preserved.

    The necessity of watching with jealous anxiety for the preservation of the Union was earnestly pressed upon his fellow-citizens by the Father of his Country in his Farewell Address. He has there told us that "while experience shall not have demonstrated its impracticability, there will always be reason to distrust the patriotism of those who in any quarter may endeavor to weaken its bands;" and he has cautioned us in the strongest terms against the formation of parties on geographical discriminations, as one of the means which might disturb our Union and to which designing men would be likely to resort.

    The lessons contained in this invaluable legacy of Washington to his countrymen should be cherished in the heart of every citizen to the latest generation; and perhaps at no period of time could they be more usefully remembered than at the present moment; for when we look upon the scenes that are passing around us and dwell upon the pages of his parting address, his paternal counsels would seem to be not merely the offspring of wisdom and foresight, but the voice of prophecy, foretelling events and warning us of the evil to come. Forty years have passed since this imperishable document was given to his countrymen. The Federal Constitution was then regarded by him as an experiment--and he so speaks of it in his Address--but an experiment upon the success of which the best hopes of his country depended; and we all know that he was prepared to lay down his life, if necessary, to secure to it a full and a fair trial. The trial has been made. It has succeeded beyond the proudest hopes of those who framed it. Every quarter of this widely extended nation has felt its blessings and shared in the general prosperity produced by its adoption. But amid this general prosperity and splendid success the dangers of which he warned us are becoming every day more evident, and the signs of evil are sufficiently apparent to awaken the deepest anxiety in the bosom of the patriot. We behold systematic efforts publicly made to sow the seeds of discord between different parts of the United States and to place party divisions directly upon geographical distinctions; to excite the South against the North and the North against the South, and to force into the controversy the most delicate and exciting topics--topics upon which it is impossible that a large portion of the Union can ever speak without strong emotion. Appeals, too, are constantly made to sectional interests in order to influence the election of the Chief Magistrate, as if it were desired that he should favor a particular quarter of the country instead of fulfilling the duties of his station with impartial justice to all; and the possible dissolution of the Union has at length become an ordinary and familiar subject of discussion. Has the warning voice of Washington been forgotten, or have designs already been formed to sever the Union? Let it not be supposed that I impute to all of those who have taken an active part in these unwise and unprofitable discussions a want of patriotism or of public virtue. The honorable feeling of State pride and local attachments finds a place in the bosoms of the most enlightened and pure. But while such men are conscious of their own integrity and honesty of purpose, they ought never to forget that the citizens of other States are their political brethren, and that however mistaken they may be in their views, the great body of them are equally honest and upright with themselves. Mutual suspicions and reproaches may in time create mutual hostility, and artful and designing men will always be found who are ready to foment these fatal divisions and to inflame the natural jealousies of different sections of the country. The history of the world is full of such examples, and especially the history of republics.

    What have you to gain by division and dissension? Delude not yourselves with the belief that a breach once made may be afterwards repaired. If the Union is once severed, the line of separation will grow wider and wider, and the controversies which are now debated and settled in the halls of legislation will then be tried in fields of battle and determined by the sword. Neither should you deceive yourselves with the hope that the first line of separation would be the permanent one, and that nothing but harmony and concord would be found in the new associations formed upon the dissolution of this Union. Local interests would still be found there, and unchastened ambition. And if the recollection of common dangers, in which the people of these United States stood side by side against the common foe, the memory of victories won by their united valor, the prosperity and happiness they have enjoyed under the present Constitution, the proud name they bear as citizens of this great Republic--if all these recollections and proofs of common interest are not strong enough to bind us together as one people, what tie will hold united the new divisions of empire when these bonds have been broken and this Union dissevered ?
     
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