Black Muslims : Transparency and credibility of factual facts


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Mar 3, 2012
Muhammad ibn (son of) Abdullah ibn (son of) Abdul Mutalib, was born on 12 Rabi 'Awwal in the year 570 C.E. (Christian Era) in Makkah, (today: Saudi Arabia) and he died in 633 C.E. in Yathrib (today: Madinah, Saudi Arabia)

In Arabic the word prophet (nabi) is derived from the word naba which means news. Thus we deduce that a prophet spreads the news of God and His message, they are in a sense God’s ambassadors on earth. Their mission is to convey the message to worship One God. This includes, calling the people to God, explaining the message, bringing glad tidings or warnings and directing the affairs of the nation. All the prophets were anxious to convey God’s message sincerely and completely and this included the last prophet, Muhammad. During his final sermon Prophet Muhammad asked the congregation three times whether he had delivered the message, and called on God to witness their answer, which was a resounding “yes!”.

As well as the essence of their call to One God, another accepted sign of the truth of the prophets is how they live their lives. The accounts of Prophet Muhammad’s life that we have inherited from our righteous predecessors illustrate that Muhammad’s Prophethood was guided by God from the very beginning. Long before, Prophethood Muhammad was being prepared to guide humankind to the straight path and his life experiences stood him in good stead for such a weighty mission. Then at the age of 40 when Prophethood was bestowed upon him, God continued to support and affirm his mission. Any account of Muhammad’s life is filled with examples of his exemplary character; he was merciful, compassionate, truthful, brave, and generous, while striving solely for the rewards of the Hereafter. The way Prophet Muhammad dealt with his companions, acquaintances, enemies, animals and even inanimate objects left no doubt that he was ever mindful of God.

Muhammad’s birth was accompanied by many so called miraculous events and the talk of the extraordinary events no doubt functioned as signs of Prophethood,

Special but not unique circumstances surrounded childhood of Prophet Muhammad and these undoubtedly had a bearing on his character. By the time he was eight years old he had suffered through the death of both his parents and his beloved grandfather Abdul Muttalib. He was left in the care of his uncle and great supporter Abu Talib. Thus even as a young boy he had already suffered great emotional and physical upheaval. Both the many chroniclers of Muhammad’s life and the Quran acknowledge his disrupted life.

Did He not find you (O Muhammad) an orphan and gave you a refuge? (Quran 93:6)

Muhammad’s uncle Abu Talib was poor and struggled to keep his family fed, thus during his adolescence Muhammad worked as a shepherd. From this occupation he learned to embrace solitude and developed characteristics such as patience, cautiousness, care, leadership and an ability to sense danger. Shepherding was an occupation that all the prophets of God we know of had in common. ‘…The companions asked, “Were you a shepherd?” He replied, “There was no prophet who was not a shepherd.”’[1]

In his teens Muhammad sometimes travelled with Abu Talib, accompanying caravans to trade centres. On at least one occasion, he is said to have travelled as far north as Syria. Older merchants recognized his character and nicknamed him Al-Amin, the one you can trust. Even in his youth he was known as truthful and trustworthy. One story that is accepted by most Islamic scholars and historians is the account of one of Prophet Muhammad’s trips to Syria.

The story goes that the monk Bahira foretold the coming Prophethood and counselled Abu Talib to “guard his nephew carefully”. According to biographer Ibn Ishaq, as the caravan in which Prophet Muhammad was travelling approached the edge of town, Bahira could see a cloud that appeared to be shading and following a young man. When the caravan halted under the shadow of some trees, Bahira “looked at the cloud when it over-shadowed the tree, and its branches were bending and drooping over the apostle of God until he was in the shadow beneath it.” After Bahira witnessed this he observed Muhammad closely and asked him many questions concerning a number of Christian prophecies he had read and heard about.

The young Muhammad was distinguished among his people for his modesty, virtuous behaviour and graceful manners, thus it was no surprise for his companions to see him, even as a youth many years before Prophethood, shun superstitious practices and keep away from drinking alcohol, eating meat slaughtered on stone altars or attending idolatrous festivals. By the time he reached adulthood Muhammad was thought of as the most reliable and trustworthy member of the Meccan community. Even those who concerned themselves with petty tribal squabbles acknowledged Muhammad’s honesty and integrity.

Muhammad’s virtues and good moral character was established from a young age, and God continued to support and guide him. When he was 40 years old Muhammad was given the means to change the world, the means to benefit the whole of humanity



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Mar 3, 2012
Does God rest?

The Bible says that: God had finished the work by the seventh day; so on the seventh day he rested, the seventh day is holy because on it God rested from all the work,

God had finished the work by the seventh day, so on the seventh day he rested

Genesis 2:2
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

The Lord abstained from work and rested.

Exodus 31:17

Expressions like tired, weak, or in need of rest and fatigue are among general practice of human beings. Fatigue is partially due to the accumulation of lactic acid in the muscles.

It is well known that balancing work and rest is the proper way to combat fatigue.

Researchers noticed the effect of Rest periods on productivity.

Post-exercise fatigue is the way you feel after typical enthusiastic exercises. Proper rest leads to improved performance of the muscles.

This is applicable for man and vertebrates but not for all the creatures.

Also, this is not applicable for some components inside our bodies.

Example of Non-Resting creatures:

Sciences say that many creatures do not rest at all e.g., the heart, the red cells, the white cells, the platelets, the Bacteria, the Fungi, the Sun etc

The Sun does not rest at all.

The heart does not rest at all.

The red cells, the white cells, the platelets do not rest at all.

Bacteria do not rest at all.

Fungi do not rest at all.
Now, the Question is:

How come that many creatures do not rest while the Almighty Creator Rest?

It is the Quran which answered this question more than 1400 years ago.

Does God rest in the Qur’an?

Now let us go to the Quran to Rest the Lord's case in respect to the question does the Lord Rest?

The Quran says: Rest assured, the god does not Rest and He never ever Rest

Allah is not like us.

No one is similar to Allah.

Surah 42:11

SHAKIR: the originator of the heavens and the earth; he made mates for you from among yourselves, and mates of the cattle too, multiplying you thereby; nothing like a likeness of him; and he is the hearing, the seeing

PICKTHAL: the creator of the heavens and the earth. he hath made for you pairs of yourselves, and of the cattle also pairs, whereby he multiplieth you. naught is as his likeness; and he is the hearer, the seer.

YUSUFALI: (he is) the creator of the heavens and the earth: he has made for you pairs from among yourselves, and pairs among cattle: by this means does he multiply you: there is nothing whatever like unto him, and he is the one that hears and sees (all things).

They dispute concerning Allah, and Allah is far beyond your thoughts and imaginations.

If we get tired, Allah does not.

If we rest, Allah does not

If we get sick, Allah does not

If we die, Allah does not

Surah 13:13

SHAKIR: and the thunder declares his glory with his praise, and the angels too for awe of him; and he sends the thunderbolts and smites with them whom he pleases, yet they dispute concerning Allah, and he is mighty in prowess

PICKTHAL: the thunder hymneth his praise and (so do) the angels for awe of him. he launcheth the thunderbolts and smiteth with them whom he will while they dispute (in doubt) concerning Allah, and he is mighty in wrath.

YUSUFALI: nay, thunder repeateth his praises, and so do the angels, with awe: he flingeth the loud-voiced thunder-bolts, and therewith he striketh whomsoever he will..yet these (are the men) who (dare to) dispute about Allah, with the strength of his power (supreme)!

Allah never ever rest.

Surah 50:38

SHAKIR: and certainly We Created the heavens and the earth and what is between them in six periods and there touched us not any fatigue

PICKTHAL: and verily We Created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six days, and naught of weariness touched Us.

YUSUFALI: We Created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six days, nor did any sense of weariness touch Us

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Mar 3, 2012
Allah the name of God

actually Allah is the name itself of The Most Supreme Creator, the Lord of the worlds which is also uniquely synonymous too since with this word Allah by all semetic religions (see video below for proofs) was referred only to the Creator of the worlds which did not need much explanation even to the pagan Arabs because they have been using right from the days of Prophet Ishmael, the son of Prophet Abraham who built the kaaba from 5000 years ago

As seen in this verse of Quran 29:61 which is addressed to the idolators and pagans of Arabia

“If you asked them, "Who created the heavens and earth and subjected the sun and the moon?" they would surely say, " Allah ." Then how are they deluded?”

So this proves Allah was also synonymous but only to the Supreme power and not to other gods as they had many gods whom the pagans worshipped. The Quran sura 112 introduced Allah again to the pagans in the right precise sense since they had started to forget the pure nature of Allah that was taught to them by Prophet Abraham though they were using the name of Allah even before the coming of Quran since Prophets Muhammad ﷺ's father name was Abdullah or Servant of Allah. Another incident that substantiates this claim is when the incident of the year of the elephant took place the pagans stopped to worship all idols for about 7 years only worshipping Allah, the Lord of the Kaaba.

The name Abdullah means submission and servitude to allah alone

So that's why when some translate the Allah as God during shahada or testimony to embrace Islam they read as

“there is no God but Allah and Muhammad PBUH is Messenger of Allah “

And this verse from 17:110 also reiterates the same, note that Allah calls himself as Allah and not just ilah in this verse

“Say, "Call upon Allah or call upon the Most Merciful. Whichever [name] you call - to Him belong the best names." And do not recite [too] loudly in your prayer or [too] quietly but seek between that an [intermediate] way.”

since the pagans did have many gods who they thought as powerful to save them help them but they also worshiped Allah whom they believed as the Ultimate Creator of the world. But still rebellious or idiotic enough to associate daughters to Allah whom they thought as Angels and partners to Allah the bogus statues of dead Saints. Since the word God in English can be misused to refer multiple gods or masculine or feminine ie Goddess etc Muslims call Allah to show that they mean the God of the pure Monotheist Prophet Abraham since the word Allah cannot be used in multiple sense nor refers any gender.

Elohim El, Elah, Alah

In the Bible, God is very often referred to as ‘Elohim’ in the Hebrew language. The ‘im’ in the ending is a plural of honour and God is referred to as ‘El’ or ‘Elah’ in the English Bible with commentary, edited by reverend C. I. Scofield. ‘Elah’ is alternatively spelled as ‘Alah’. The difference in spelling is only of a single ‘L’. Muslims spell Allah as ‘Allah’ while the Reverend has spelled it as Alah and they pronounce it as ‘Elah’. Muslims pronounce it as Allah. Hebrew and Arabic are sister languages therefore we say it should be pronounced as ‘Allah’ and not as ‘Elah’.

The video will show how Allah was used by all semetic religions.

Ahmed Deedat Answer - Where was the word 'ALLAH' lost by Jews and Christians?



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Mar 3, 2012
Mary in the Bible and in the quran
to compare the character of Mary (Maryam (as)) both in the biblical text and in the Koranic text.

that the Koranic text gives much more consideration to the character of Mary than the biblical text.

Mary in the Bible
- A very unflattering portrait of Mary is drawn;
- Doubt as to the accusation of adultery hovers throughout the 4 Gospels;
- The biblical Jesus obviously does not respect his mother by calling her "woman";
- The mother-son relationship between them is not a model for humanity;
- Her name appears less than 30 times (includes quotes: "the virgin", "the mother of the Lord", "the mother of Jesus" and "Mary"). 25 times in Jesus' childhood (as) and his beginning of ministry, after she almost completely disappears, she, "the mother of God" (sic!) According to Christians;
- Paul does not even mention it once in all his writings nor the Gospel according to Mark (which is the oldest, however, the most primitive of the 4 Gospels

Worse yet, Christians follow Paul throughout their lives and not the teaching of Jesus (as). Paul does not even mention the name of Mary (as) in his writings despite being the most prolific author of the New Testament. Not even a small verse on it!

It is therefore in consternation that we can say that the holy book of Christians, inspired by the Holy Spirit, let us remember, paints a very calamitous portrait of Mary.

On the Koranic side:
- Mary is elected "above the women of this world";

Mary, who is moreover a Jewess, above the women of this world. Is there a more convincing tribute than this?

- The doubt as to the accusation of adultery is removed without the slightest ambiguity by the miracle of the baby Jesus (as) who clears his mother;
- God recommended to Jesus (as) kindness towards his mother;
- The relationship he maintains with his mother is filled with love and joy;
(which is absolutely not the case in the Gospel text).

Mary has a privileged place in Islam, a Sura even bears her name (Sura 19 - Maryam), recounting at the same time her story. There is no chapter in the whole Bible that is dedicated to Mary. The name of Mary appears much more often in the Koranic text (34 times + 1 time in Sura title) than in the biblical text (less than 30 times)

Now let's stop for a moment and ask ourselves a few questions:

Isn't it strange that the "evil Islamic spirit" has given Mary much more glory in the Qur'an than has the "Holy Ghost" of Christians in the Bible? Was it really the Holy Spirit who inspired the Bible? Would it not rather be an "evil" -Holy Spirit?

لماذا تم تعميد يسوع؟ هاشم في حوار مع مسيحي

الضربة القاضية! هاشم في حوار مع مسيحيين

الطاقة وهبتنا الحياة! منصور في حوار مع ملحد

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