Black Spirituality Religion : Transcript: jesus/yeshua ben pandira never existed

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  1. Ra Nehem

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    Mikyia mo (Greetings),

    We have posted the transcript from our 36 minute track on the fictionality (non-existence) of jesus (isa), yeshua ben pandira, solomon, sheba and menelik on our website.

    The transcript to the audio can be found here:

    www.odwirafo.com/kukuutuntumpage.html

    Scroll down to the section titled: ABIEN (CD 2). You will find the transcript to track 3 (Afurakani/Afuraitkaitnit Ancestral Religion - anan) just below the audio file.

    Ma asomdwoee-Hetep (Peace)..
     
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    The link to the pdf that contains that transcript doesnt work on the website.
     
  3. Ra Nehem

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    Mikyia wo (Greetings),

    We just checked the link and it was working fine. Let us know what message is coming up when you try it..

    Ma asomdwoee-Hetep (Peace)..
     
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    Ah yes, it is working now no problem:)
     
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    Melchisadek, Jesus, Enoch/Tehuti/Hermes, Ausar, Krishna --- there is a certain degree of grayness as to whether any of them existed as chronicled literally in holy books. This only matters to those who those who deify, and focus, on the mortal messenger, rather than the message --- or, to those who seek to discredit the message.

    What matters most is whether or not the message resonates within your being.

    Maybe, that is by Divine design. Clearly, all the above sages I mentioned, as chronicled in holy books, intentionally maintained an air of _mystery_ around both themselves and their message.

    Mark 4:11
    "And He said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables."


    The Kybalion
    "The lips of wisdom are closed except to the ears of Understanding"
     
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    Brother Istlota ... this is so powerful, so revealing ... it's like what i've been trying to say all the years, but never would have been able to do so, quite so succinctly, and eloquently as you have.

    What matters most is whether or not the message resonates within your being.

    I'm gonna be quiet now, before i ruin the moment.

    Thank You Brother.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa!

    Ra Nehem,

    Greetings, all (9) pages of the report were copied and read by me. It is disappointing to find the task of “textual criticism” not to be a part of your argument.

    In fact, this report creates a conundrum of sorts. It makes the allegation that “jesus never existed,” and the below, in part, statement of fact appears on the Web site:

    Click here to read the transcript for track 3 above. Includes the facts proving that jesus never existed.

    However, no such proof is offered. Instead, a pun on words exists;

    The name jesus, yeshua of hesus is taken from the name Khensu, which is one of the titles of the God Heru (direct quote from the report/transcript).


    Realize that the above has the opposite affect; it proves the existence of jesus, rather than the non-existence. While it is admirable that a name transformation from jesus to Khensu is noted, that does little to represent what the transcript (report) sets out, in its claim, to disprove.

    Specifically, to say in the title of your post, Transcript: jesus/yeshua pandira never existed is misleading and it is unproven, still.

    I await your response!

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  8. Ra Nehem

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    Mikyia wo (Greetings),

    All it takes is to study what has been written and the references provided. All of the textual references are at the bottom of the webpage. I include the numbers of the various tracks supported by the papyrus texts, coffin texts, etc. Look at the references listed, study them and study the cosmology. It is absolutely proven, irrefutably. Study the texts fully, yourself, before you draw more false conclusions.

    With regard to the various characters mentioned, not only are they non-existent, but the messages associated with them are foolish and self-destructive when we (Afurakanu/Afuraitkaitnut) seek to incoporate them into our lives. There is a clear distinction between what is taught in the areas of pseudo-esotericism and what our culture teaches us (be it via Akan, Yoruba, Igbo, Bakongo, Ewe, etc.).

    Again, various texts (books and papryii/coffin/tomb, etc.) are listed. Research them.

    Finally, thorough investigation into our Nanasom (Afurakani/Afuraitkaitnit Ancestral Religion in its various forms) is affected through practice.

    Ma asomdwoee-Hetep..
     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa - Final Thought!



    Ra Nehem,

    We are missing each other’s expression of thought, resulting in impasse! Here’s why, I hold a high view of Scripture and I have read, as you suggest, what I find is a unscholarly attempt at juxtaposing Egyptian characters, with chronological difficulty, against which Biblical characters are determined antecedent through Higher, Lower and Textual forms of Criticism and not just textual references of Spells and vignettes, that have been implied here.

     
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