Black People Politics : Trans-Pacific Partnership: What do you think?

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  1. NNQueen

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    Described as the most progressive trade deal in history, what do you know about the TPP and what do you think about it? Is it something that Black people who are progressives should support? Obama is pushing for it, and although Hillary said at one time during her presidential campaign she was opposed to it, she has changed her message and now is in favor of it. But what are some reported problems with it that will impact American citizens if it goes through?

    8 Terrible Things About the Trans-Pacific Partnership

    Like the WTO agreements or NAFTA, the TPP is an attempt to set the rules of the global economy to favor multinational corporations over everything else, trampling on democracy, national sovereignty and the public good.

    Like most post-World War II trade deals, the TPP also has a strategic political goal: tying as many countries as possible to the United States as trade partners—often under terms unfavorable to the average American worker—in order to win political support against anyone seen as a rival to the American economic model. When Obama defends the TPP, he often casts it as a challenge to China’s growing role in defining the Asian economy.

    #1 IT GIVES 9,200 FOREIGN FIRMS THE RIGHT TO CIRCUMVENT OUR COURTS AND ATTACK THE LAWS WE RELY ON FOR A CLEAN ENVIRONMENT, SAFE FOOD AND DECENT JOBS.

    #2 ITS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS ARE MOSTLY TOOTHLESS, AND IT WOULD DIRECTLY ENCOURAGE FRACKING.

    #3 WE’D LOSE MILLIONS OF MANUFACTURING JOBS.

    #4 IT DOES NOTHING TO FIX OUR ENORMOUS TRADE DEFICIT.

    #5 IT WOULD MAKE MEDICINES MORE EXPENSIVE, AND COMPROMISE ACCESS FOR MANY PEOPLE IN THE PACIFIC RIM.

    #6 IT WOULD COMPROMISE THE SAFETY OF OUR FOOD.

    #7 IT WOULD DESTABILIZE GLOBAL FINANCE.

    #8 IT WOULD STRENGTHEN ALREADY-FLAWED INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY REGULATIONS IN AWFUL WAYS, PARTICULARLY ON THE INTERNET.


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    i reject the TPP......
     
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    Democratic Party Platform Committee Undermines Clinton On TPP

    The Democratic party’s elites must not think that trade and jobs will be big issues in the coming election. Apparently, they’ve never listened to a Donald Trump speech, and didn’t notice that working-class people in the United Kingdom just voted to “brexit” from the European Union (EU) over these issues.

    The Democratic platform writing committee has voted not to oppose the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), with the pro-TPP majority saying that doing so would undercut President Obama’s efforts to pass the agreement.

    The problem is, this hands Trump, as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, powerful ammunition as he says Democratic challenger Hillary Clinton is only “pretending” to oppose the agreement.

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    the rich are addicted to money like addicts to crack.
    their inability to share is going to destroy the entire system.
    it is ironic that those who are afforded to best education cannot see what they are doing.
     
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    Wow...thanks for the information, UB...keep it coming. It's a lot to read and absorb. Look at where the 99% of taxpayer's money is going and for what. And Trump claims when he becomes president, he's going to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico and Mexico is going to pay for it? In his dreams...
     
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    I'll let the experts determine whether the U.S. can impose upon Mexico to pay for a dividing wall but should the idea of a wall or physical barrier between our border should happen, I think it would change everything that the U.S. has stood for, for so long, if this ever happens.

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    New Colossus

    Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
    "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
    With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
    (Poem by Emma Lazarus)

    In a book written by John F. Kennedy in 1958 called "A Nation of Immigrants," it says . . .

    Coded Language of Xenophobia and Nativism

    In the Foreword, Foxman reports that while the immigration debate has included valid and sincere arguments on both sides of the issue, it has also been framed at times by vitriolic anti-immigrant – and particularly anti-Latino – rhetoric and propaganda, not only from extremist groups like the Ku Klux Klan but also anti-immigrant groups that have positioned themselves as legitimate, mainstream advocates against illegal immigration. While the former do not hide their hatred, the latter groups use coded language to provide the veneer of respectability yet aim to demonize immigrants: “However, under the guise of warning people about the impact of illegal immigration, these anti-immigrant groups often invoke the same dehumanizing racist stereotypes as hate groups” (page xiv). Kennedy also notes the use of such coded words in the late 1800s to exclude and demean, such as the specific use of the word “American” to exclude Chinese immigrants, and “foreigners” and “savage hordes” to instill fear of immigrants “taking over” the country. Research what these coded words and phrases are, and how anti-immigrant advocacy groups, the media and politicians in the 19th, 20th and 21st century use them to exclude, demoralize and make immigrants (whether legal or illegal), and those who are perceived as immigrants, seem sub-human. To what extent, if any, has this language changed throughout the centuries? None because Trump is still using this coded language to incite hatred and militancy toward Mexicans that is spilling over to BLM and Muslims.

    Addendum to “Give me your tired…” (Now, these are President Kennedy's thinking over 50 years ago and I find them applicable still today:
    In contrast to the ideals set forth in Emma Lazarus’ words on the Statue of Liberty, Kennedy paints a different picture of the U.S. by adding to her quote, “as long as they come from Northern Europe, are not too tired or too poor or slightly ill, never stole a loaf of bread, never joined any questionable organization, and can document their activities for the past two years”.
     
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    I hope people are paying attention to all of this and recognizing that even the so-called party of the people are more beholden to moneyed interests than the desires of the majority of the electorate.
     
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    They most definitely see and understand what they are doing brother James, it's just that they don't give a crap..It's the voracious avaricious trait that dominates their psyche and agendas...They are all in bed together and they d--m sure aren't laying on clean sheets...
     
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    Mexican Foreign Minister: Mexico Paying for Trump Wall 'Absurd'

    She also mentions the TPP...check it out . . .
     
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