Black People Politics : Trans-Pacific Partnership: What do you think?

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  1. NNQueen

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    Described as the most progressive trade deal in history, what do you know about the TPP and what do you think about it? Is it something that Black people who are progressives should support? Obama is pushing for it, and although Hillary said at one time during her presidential campaign she was opposed to it, she has changed her message and now is in favor of it. But what are some reported problems with it that will impact American citizens if it goes through?

    8 Terrible Things About the Trans-Pacific Partnership

    Like the WTO agreements or NAFTA, the TPP is an attempt to set the rules of the global economy to favor multinational corporations over everything else, trampling on democracy, national sovereignty and the public good.

    Like most post-World War II trade deals, the TPP also has a strategic political goal: tying as many countries as possible to the United States as trade partners—often under terms unfavorable to the average American worker—in order to win political support against anyone seen as a rival to the American economic model. When Obama defends the TPP, he often casts it as a challenge to China’s growing role in defining the Asian economy.

    #1 IT GIVES 9,200 FOREIGN FIRMS THE RIGHT TO CIRCUMVENT OUR COURTS AND ATTACK THE LAWS WE RELY ON FOR A CLEAN ENVIRONMENT, SAFE FOOD AND DECENT JOBS.

    #2 ITS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS ARE MOSTLY TOOTHLESS, AND IT WOULD DIRECTLY ENCOURAGE FRACKING.

    #3 WE’D LOSE MILLIONS OF MANUFACTURING JOBS.

    #4 IT DOES NOTHING TO FIX OUR ENORMOUS TRADE DEFICIT.

    #5 IT WOULD MAKE MEDICINES MORE EXPENSIVE, AND COMPROMISE ACCESS FOR MANY PEOPLE IN THE PACIFIC RIM.

    #6 IT WOULD COMPROMISE THE SAFETY OF OUR FOOD.

    #7 IT WOULD DESTABILIZE GLOBAL FINANCE.

    #8 IT WOULD STRENGTHEN ALREADY-FLAWED INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY REGULATIONS IN AWFUL WAYS, PARTICULARLY ON THE INTERNET.


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    What many people have not really chewed on it that "Federal Income Tax" was to be exclusively for foreign trading.

    The expansion to the domestic federal tax was later incorporated under the pretense of "war time" needs.
    It was never redacted, and the Federal Reserve uses coercion to enforce something that is not a law.

    Out of fear, the massed don't consider these "trade agreements" are corporate sponsorship of taxation without representation. Federal income taxation is essentially robbing from the poor to give to the rich, as many of these rich corporations do not contribute to the "Federal Reserve" banks.

    If the same amount of people that vote, would decide not to contribute to the Federal Reserve (by opting out of Federal Income robbery), then these Trade Agreements wouldn't even be a thought.

    Anyone really questioned why the federal government has the ability to garnish your wages under penalty of confinement and monetary loss?

    It is not a sales tax, it is not a property tax, it is a scheme to gather tariffs by siphoning them away from people without any accounting. Many simply accept it and move on.

    If the conversation doesn't include federal income tax resistance, then the TTP and any other trade agreement is just fuel on the fire of criminal trespass when it comes to personal property.

    If this doesn't make it to the Supreme Court again, inflation and stock market crashes and trade agreements are just theater for those that wont be negatively affected by the results.

    US of A .INC is a corporation, and the CEOs of the various organizations are called "managers".



    Hillary Clinton and Obama are doing their best to get this done.



     
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    i reject the TPP......
     
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    Democratic Party Platform Committee Undermines Clinton On TPP

    The Democratic party’s elites must not think that trade and jobs will be big issues in the coming election. Apparently, they’ve never listened to a Donald Trump speech, and didn’t notice that working-class people in the United Kingdom just voted to “brexit” from the European Union (EU) over these issues.

    The Democratic platform writing committee has voted not to oppose the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), with the pro-TPP majority saying that doing so would undercut President Obama’s efforts to pass the agreement.

    The problem is, this hands Trump, as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, powerful ammunition as he says Democratic challenger Hillary Clinton is only “pretending” to oppose the agreement.

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    the rich are addicted to money like addicts to crack.
    their inability to share is going to destroy the entire system.
    it is ironic that those who are afforded to best education cannot see what they are doing.
     
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    The Contras, Cocaine, and Covert Operations

    Washington, D.C. – An August, 1996, series in the San Jose Mercury News by reporter Gary Webb linked the origins of crack cocaine in California to the contras, a guerrilla force backed by the Reagan administration that attacked Nicaragua's Sandinista government during the 1980s. Webb's series, "The Dark Alliance," has been the subject of intense media debate, and has focused attention on a foreign policy drug scandal that leaves many questions unanswered.

    This electronic briefing book is compiled from declassified documents obtained by the National Security Archive, including the notebooks kept by NSC aide and Iran-contra figure Oliver North, electronic mail messages written by high-ranking Reagan administration officials, memos detailing the contra war effort, and FBI and DEA reports. The documents demonstrate official knowledge of drug operations, and collaboration with and protection of known drug traffickers. Court and hearing transcripts are also included.

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    http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/index.html


    CIA, Cocaine, and Death Squads

    Forty million people, along with the most biologically diverse, endangered ecosystems in the world, are under attack by the U. S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and mercenaries paid by oil companies. This war is fought with bombs and bullets, as well as with herbicides and media misinformation. The cause of the war is as diverse as the region's terrain and its ethnic variety The rapacious greed of multinationals like Occidental Petroleum, Shell, BP, Texaco, and their counterparts in the Colombian elite is the main problem, but cocaine use in the U.S. is the fuel that fires this inferno. Drug exports pay for the weapons of the right-wing government-backed death squads and the revolutionary guerrillas.

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    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/CIACocaineDeathSquads.html


    US-Trained Death Squads?
    How America's latest drug war initiative could aid the cartels and enrich military contractors.

    July 2009

    OFFICIALLY, IT'S CALLED the Mérida Initiative, but critics have another name for the three-year, $1.4 billion plan to fight the drug war, unveiled by George W. Bush and Mexican president Felipe Calderón in 2007. They've dubbed it Plan Mexico, a reference to Plan Colombia, the controversial US-funded drug eradication effort; under the $6 billion (and counting) program, the production of Colombian cocaine has actually increased. Critics say Mérida is destined to be just as ineffective and may contribute to rampant human rights abuses by Mexican authorities, and provide US military training to soldiers notorious for ending up on the payrolls of the cartels.

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    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/07/us-trained-death-squads


    New NSA Mexico Leaks Raise Questions on U.S. Security Programs

    October 22, 2013

    The latest analysis of Edward Snowden’s leaked documents by the German magazine Der Spiegel is a bombshell for Mexico.

    “The NSA has been systematically eavesdropping on the Mexican government for years,” reads the opening line in the Oct. 20 issue.

    The article goes on to detail three major programs that together constitute a massive espionage operation against Mexico. No one seems to have been immune from its intrusions, including with two presidents.

    In 2010, the National Security Agency (NSA) cracked the presidential computer network of then-President Felipe Calderon.
    ...
    It also came out that the NSA spied on then-presidential candidate Enrique Peña Nieto to find out who he was planning to appoint to his cabinet and how he’d handle the volatile drug war — the cornerstone of U.S. policy in Mexico.

    That caused a stir. The Peña Nieto administration sent a diplomatic note and demanded a U.S. investigation.​

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-carlsen/new-nsa-mexico-leaks_b_4134434.html



    Covert action in Colombia

    U.S. intelligence, GPS bomb kits help Latin American nation cripple rebel forces
    December 21, 2013

    The 50-year-old Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), once considered the best-funded insurgency in the world, is at its smallest and most vulnerable state in decades, due in part to a CIA covert action program that has helped Colombian forces kill at least two dozen rebel leaders, according to interviews with more than 30 former and current U.S. and Colombian officials.

    The secret assistance, which also includes substantial eavesdropping help from the National Security Agency, is funded through a multibillion-dollar black budget. It is not a part of the public $9 billion package of mostly U.S. military aid called Plan Colombia, which began in 2000.

    The previously undisclosed CIA program was authorized by President George W. Bush in the early 2000s and has continued under President Obama, according to U.S. military, intelligence and diplomatic officials. Most of those interviewed spoke on the condition of anonymity because the program is classified and ongoing.

    The covert program in Colombia provides two essential services to the nation’s battle against the FARC and a smaller insurgent group, the National Liberation Army (ELN): Real-time intelligence that allows Colombian forces to hunt down individual FARC leaders and, beginning in 2006, one particularly effective tool with which to kill them.

    That weapon is a $30,000 GPS guidance kit that transforms a less-than-accurate 500-pound gravity bomb into a highly accurate smart bomb. Smart bombs, also called precision-guided munitions or PGMs, are capable of killing an individual in triple-canopy jungle if his exact location can be determined and geo-coordinates are programmed into the bomb’s small computer brain.​

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2013/12/21/covert-action-in-colombia



    How the CIA Watched Over the Destruction of Gary Webb
    September 25, 2014


    Eighteen years after it was published, “Dark Alliance,” the San Jose Mercury News’s bombshell investigation into links between the cocaine trade, Nicaragua’s Contra rebels, and African American neighborhoods in California, remains one of the most explosive and controversial exposés in American journalism.

    The 20,000-word series enraged black communities, prompted Congressional hearings, and became one of the first major national security stories in history to blow up online. It also sparked an aggressive backlash from the nation’s most powerful media outlets, which devoted considerable resources to discredit author Gary Webb’s reporting. Their efforts succeeded, costing Webb his career. On December 10, 2004, the journalist was found dead in his apartment, having ended his eight-year downfall with two .38-caliber bullets to the head.

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    https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-media-destruction-gary-webb






    Why Is the US Still Spending Billions to Fund Mexico’s Corrupt Drug War?

    Washington is providing equipment and training to compromised agencies—at the same time that it’s tracking their close ties to organized crime.
    February 27, 2015

    By February 2010, US consulate officials in Monterrey, Mexico, had long connected Héctor Santos Saucedo, then head of Coahuila’s state investigations, to the Zetas. This was at a time when the Zetas—the notorious criminal drug organization formed by soldiers who had defected from an elite army unit—had consolidated control over much of the political and security apparatus in Mexico’s northern region. According to internal US government reports from around that time, Zeta influence was “longstanding and widespread throughout local and state government,” and cartels were operating “with near total impunity in the face of compromised local security forces.” Despite US knowledge that Santos was part of the Zetas’ sphere of influence, he continued to hold central positions in the counter-drug effort; he was named director general of investigations in the State of Coahuila in January 2010 after being dismissed from his post as head of the state investigative unit in Nuevo León. The following year, the town of Allende, Coahuila, became the site of one of the drug war’s worst massacres—one that is just now coming to light after years of cover-up.​

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    https://www.thenation.com/article/us-connection-mexicos-drug-war-corruption


    Merida Initiative
    The Merida Initiative is an unprecedented partnership between the United States and Mexico to fight organized crime and associated violence while furthering respect for human rights and the rule of law. Based on principles of common and shared responsibility, mutual trust, and respect for sovereign independence, the two countries’ efforts have built confidence that is transforming the bilateral relationship.

    Merida Programs and Activities
    The U.S. Congress has appropriated $2.3 billion since the Merida Initiative began in Fiscal Year 2008. Under the partnership, some of the activities include...​

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    http://www.state.gov/j/inl/merida


    Is the Merida Initiative Working?
    July 21, 2015

    As Mexico continues to experience a security breakdown related to drug cartel activity and violence, spectacularly exemplified by the second escape of ‘El Chapo’ Guzmán, the spotlight has once again fallen on the role of the U.S. in its neighbor’s drug war. Underpinned by the $2.5 billion Mérida Initiative, successive U.S. administrations have supported the Mexican state’s security forces, and the aggressive approach toward the cartels that control the lucrative drug traffic through Mexico into the U.S. market.

    The Mérida Initiative is currently officially described as an, “unprecedented partnership between the United States and Mexico to fight organized crime and associated violence, while furthering respect for human rights and the rule of law.”

    However, with high-profile failures in the news, and security for Mexican citizens unraveling in large parts of the country, a campaign to reexamine or even halt U.S. aid has strengthened. Organizations in Mexico and the United States have expressed grave concerns about the human rights consequences of the aid and deep fears about the role of corruption within the Mexican state. The plight of the missing students from Ayotzinapa, Guerrero (still shrouded in mystery, state failure and complicity), alongside the extrajudicial executions by the Army in Tlatlaya, and a number of other high-profile cases reveal a climate of increased human rights abuses, impunity, and continued state involvement in heinous crimes, has re-energized campaigners against the Mérida Initiative.​

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    http://www.cipamericas.org/archives/15568

    If the link above leads to Cialis advertisements, try this one
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...org/archives/15568+&cd=11&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



    Deportation, Detention and Abuse on the Mexico-Guatemala Border
    September 13, 2015

    Mexico's southern border has become the line of contention of the most powerful country in the world. The victims of this extraterritorial policy are Central American migrants who cross every day, seeking to save their lives and their families from the violence and hunger plaguing their countries.

    For years, and especially in the past year, the U.S. government has claimed the southern border of Mexico as a strategic area for its national security. The formation of a regional trading bloc with the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) began a policy of intervention - incorrectly called integration - in Mexico that was explicitly extended to the area of security with the Security and Prosperity Partnership in 2005, and culminated in Merida Initiative in 2008.

    Presented by George W. Bush as a plan of "Counterterrorism, Counternarcotics and Border Security," the Merida Initiative, or Plan Mexico, introduced a new framework for U.S.-Mexico relations, militarized and securitized and led by the Pentagon.

    The government of Barack Obama, far from reconsidering the ultra-violent impacts of the drug war strategy in Mexico, inherited the Bush plan and immediately decided to go further with it. The Obama administration extended the original three-year, multibillion-dollar Bush version "indefinitely."​

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    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/...tion-and-abuse-on-the-mexico-guatemala-border



    U.S. Security Aid To Mexico Dwindles Amid Human Rights Abuses

    The missing 43 students and escape of “El Chapo” Guzmán may partly explain why the U.S. is slashing aid to Mexico.

    December 29, 2015

    The United States is slowing the pace of security aid to Mexico amid an ongoing human rights disaster that led the State Department to withhold some $5 million in aid earlier this year.

    The budget Congress approved earlier this month awards roughly $146 million in security aid to Mexico. That figure is the lowest since 2011 and amounts to about three-quarters of the funding Congress authorized last year.

    “For a close country like Mexico, if their aid for a program is cut off 25 percent, that’s a pretty huge deal,” said Robert Naiman, policy director of the membership organization Just Foreign Policy. “By Washington’s standards, that’s a pretty big slap on the wrist.”​

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mexico-security-human-rights_us_5681c198e4b0b958f65a3e4b




    Anyone notice how these "partnerships" or "initiatives" with Mexico, Columbia, and South America have rarely made it into the political discussions?

    Politricks... stay woke
     
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    Wow...thanks for the information, UB...keep it coming. It's a lot to read and absorb. Look at where the 99% of taxpayer's money is going and for what. And Trump claims when he becomes president, he's going to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico and Mexico is going to pay for it? In his dreams...
     
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    Looks like he would attempt to cut into (or cut off) the $24 billion flow going to Mexico from what he thinks are "illegal immigrants".

    Trump reveals how he would force Mexico to pay for border wall
    April 5, 2016

    In the memo, Trump said he would threaten to change a rule under the USA Patriot Act antiterrorism law to cut off a portion of the funds sent to Mexico through money transfers, commonly known as remittances. The threat would be withdrawn if Mexico made “a one-time payment of $5-10 billion” to pay for the border wall, he wrote.

    After the wall was funded, Trump wrote, transfer payments could continue “to flow into their country year after year.” He gave the memo to The Post in response to a written question provided to him before an interview last week.

    Nearly $25 billion was sent home by Mexicans living abroad in 2015, mostly in the form of money transfers, according to the Mexican central bank. In his memo, Trump said that “the majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens.”

    President Obama sharply criticized Trump’s remittances proposal ...

    “This is just one more example of something that is not thought through and is primarily put forward for political consumption,” Obama said. “The notion that we’re going to track every Western Union bit of money that’s being sent to Mexico, good luck with that.”

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...196314-fa7c-11e5-80e4-c381214de1a3_story.html


    The numbers behind Donald Trump’s threat to block money from being sent back to Mexico
    April 5, 2016

    Donald Trump's famously nonspecific plan to make Mexico pay for a new, beautiful wall on the border between our two nations got slightly more specific on Tuesday. The campaign produced a memo for The Post specifying that Trump's plan was essentially to twist Mexico's arm behind its back -- threatening to stop wire transfers from noncitizens to places outside the United States. Or, to use the term with which the process is usually described, to try to block remittances from people working in the United States back to Mexico.

    There are valid legal questions about whether Trump would actually have the power to do that as president, questions that The Post explored this morning. (Short answer: Probably not.) But given the regularity with which the topic has come up during Trump's candidacy, we figured we'd look a little more closely at the numbers behind remittances.​

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...o-block-money-from-being-sent-back-to-mexico/

    COMPELLING MEXICO TO PAY FOR THE WALL

    It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following...

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    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall


    Related article
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-fg-u.s.-mexico-remittances-20160512-snap-story.html

    Whether or not it could be imposed upon Mexico is one question, the other is should the idea of building walls and borders similar to ones in Israel?
     
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    I'll let the experts determine whether the U.S. can impose upon Mexico to pay for a dividing wall but should the idea of a wall or physical barrier between our border should happen, I think it would change everything that the U.S. has stood for, for so long, if this ever happens.

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    New Colossus

    Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
    "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
    With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
    (Poem by Emma Lazarus)

    In a book written by John F. Kennedy in 1958 called "A Nation of Immigrants," it says . . .

    Coded Language of Xenophobia and Nativism

    In the Foreword, Foxman reports that while the immigration debate has included valid and sincere arguments on both sides of the issue, it has also been framed at times by vitriolic anti-immigrant – and particularly anti-Latino – rhetoric and propaganda, not only from extremist groups like the Ku Klux Klan but also anti-immigrant groups that have positioned themselves as legitimate, mainstream advocates against illegal immigration. While the former do not hide their hatred, the latter groups use coded language to provide the veneer of respectability yet aim to demonize immigrants: “However, under the guise of warning people about the impact of illegal immigration, these anti-immigrant groups often invoke the same dehumanizing racist stereotypes as hate groups” (page xiv). Kennedy also notes the use of such coded words in the late 1800s to exclude and demean, such as the specific use of the word “American” to exclude Chinese immigrants, and “foreigners” and “savage hordes” to instill fear of immigrants “taking over” the country. Research what these coded words and phrases are, and how anti-immigrant advocacy groups, the media and politicians in the 19th, 20th and 21st century use them to exclude, demoralize and make immigrants (whether legal or illegal), and those who are perceived as immigrants, seem sub-human. To what extent, if any, has this language changed throughout the centuries? None because Trump is still using this coded language to incite hatred and militancy toward Mexicans that is spilling over to BLM and Muslims.

    Addendum to “Give me your tired…” (Now, these are President Kennedy's thinking over 50 years ago and I find them applicable still today:
    In contrast to the ideals set forth in Emma Lazarus’ words on the Statue of Liberty, Kennedy paints a different picture of the U.S. by adding to her quote, “as long as they come from Northern Europe, are not too tired or too poor or slightly ill, never stole a loaf of bread, never joined any questionable organization, and can document their activities for the past two years”.
     
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    What's the purpose of "Border Patrol"?
    https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/overview
     
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