Black Women : To: TrueToTheCause....

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  1. cherryblossom

    cherryblossom Banned MEMBER

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    Dear TruetotheCause:

    (I only posted this in the Women's Forum so as not to detract/derail the other thread any more. This is my letter to you in hopes/aims to reach a better understanding of each other. We're both mature, intelligent Black women with different opinions/ideologies, but I'm sure we can “touch and agree” where we can and “agree to disagree” where we can not.)

    First, I give you my appreciation for taking the time to respond to me by video. Yes, so often, the written word on a screen can be misinterpreted in context and, especially, INTENT. Very often, “Perception is Reality.” So, I do sincerely value your efforts in seeking to clarify any misconstrued perception on my part.

    However, with that being said, I still must address/respond to some points you mentioned in your earlier posts and by video. Now, one thing we DO seem to have in common is a nature to “shoot straight from the hip” and not “bite our tongues.” So, since I am not able to respond to you by video so you can see me and my mannerisms/body language/or facial expressions, I do hope you receive my thoughts in a peaceful manner and not in any way combative either. This letter is my sincere attempt to also “clear the air” between us.

    But, first, here's a little background: I made my first post here on 04/01 in the “Front Porch” introducing myself at 8:15 AM. My 2nd post was explaining my chosen screen name. Then, I discovered the Poetry Forum and made several comments there and made a few posts in the “Domestic Violence” thread as well as others across the board.

    In NONE of those posts did I mention anything about Christianity nor did I state my religious affiliation in any way. In fact, I had been posting ALL DAY.

    So, your conclusion that I ran straight to the Christianity forum is incorrect.

    Later that night, about 10: 15 PM, I found the Christianity sub-forum and started a thread there. And THAT'S when all hell broke loose! LOL!

    Now, here is my understanding of the relationship between me and you thus far...

    1.You read my responses in the Christianity forum and decided that I came onto the site “waving my Christian banner.” Now, “banner waving” is an expression that, for me, would connote that I went ALL over the board proclaiming Christianity, that I introduced Christianity into EVERY post I made, in every thread I responded to. However, I think that description/judgement of me is an unfair assessment. Yes, I entered a forum set aside for Christians and defended my right to be there and my stance that others who were not Christian should stay out. But, YOU, upon seeing my exchanges there decided to “cut me a wide path.” And, then, when I responded in the “Christian Testimonies” thread, that too, was, seemingly, even more proof for YOU that I was “waving my banner.”

    And, yes, rightly or wrongly, I took your initial response to me as “combative.” And, the rest, like they say “is history;” thus, here we are now.

    2. Because I did receive/perceive your comments as “combative,” I then responded with a slight “chip on my shoulder.”

    Now, you say that your premise for responding to me was to point out to me the “interesting” fact that the religion of Christianity, by its very teachings, is one of “superiority” because of the Bible verse “No one cometh unto the Father but my me.” And, yes, that is what it teaches; but I did not speak to YOU anything specific about Christianity.

    So, I felt like you were, in a passive-aggressive way, “attacking” me through your statements about Christianity. The question in MY mind was “Why is she speaking of that?...Why did she go there?”

    Now, because Christianity is not the ONLY religion which espouses “superiority,” I felt like your comments were a side-ways assault on me, so to speak. Other religions also intimate, if not overtly assert, that THEIR religion is the only way and that others are outside “The Truth.” So, yeah, I thought you were being “catty.”

    And after I read your comments about the “banner” and the “shield,” then I REALLY felt like “Yeah, this lady has a problem with me from the GATE and she's not gonna be receptive to anything I say because I'm a Christian.”

    So, there it all is.

    But, I do hope from this point on that we can converse and dialogue without feeling that our respective faith beliefs must place an impregnable “shield” or an impassable DIVIDE between us.

    Sincerely,

    Cherry Blossom.
     
  2. jamesfrmphilly

    jamesfrmphilly going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    my goodness!

    you caused all that amount of trouble in that short of a time?
    must be a new record around here.:bball:
     
  3. cherryblossom

    cherryblossom Banned MEMBER

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    James, this letter is to TrueToTheCause. It is a sincere attempt at open communication.

    It is not meant as a vehicle for jokes. So, IMO, your comments are unnecessary and out of line.

    So, please allow TrueToTheCause and I, as two Black women, to resolve whatever differences we have without interjections from the "Peanut Gallery."

    What positive purpose did your comments serve here?
     
  4. cherryblossom

    cherryblossom Banned MEMBER

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    James, the description for this forum is why I chose to place my letter here.

    This is not a "cat-fight." So, please leave your "instigating" out.
     
  5. truetothecause

    truetothecause Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Where I'm at right now...

    Thank You for taking the time and using the wisdom to start this dialogue HERE...in the SiStahs sub-forum.

    I "feel" like giving this response in video format yet don't want to take the time...leaving things hanging so long.....at least another couple hours for the whole process.

    First...YES...some of what you've said is accurate about me and my position. I WAS on the "defense" when it came to 'hearing' you BECAUSE OF YOUR christian beliefs.

    Second...earlier today I went to your page and learned what you've stated in terms of the course of events leading you to sharing your stance as a christian. As you see, I have little regard for the religion and question the minds of Afreekan people who continue to follow it. So, I noted your 1st post was introducing yourself, 2nd post telling about your name and then the poetry forum. All that took place on 4/1/09 ...Wednesday...and I did not check in that day. On 4/2/09 I saw the "hell breaking loose" when you entered the christianity sub-forum ..hence...my REAL introduction to you.
    I noted that and was aware of my need to correct myself and to check myself.

    After the "hell" and heat you took on 4/2/09, I had a sense that your comments on the thread I started was a sort of "passive-aggressive" way to address those who you were getting heat from...and I did not want any parts of it.

    There are many other factors working behind the scenes for me which I have no intent on saying out loud here....now. I will say this..."Your known by the company you keep". That cliche rings true for me based on my experiences with people....'guilty until proven innocent' is now a motto I live by.

    I am "flying by the seat of my pants" right now and KNOW I will have more to say as we work to find some common ground in this community.

    I also sense myself in a defensive position and I'm not liking it. I trust my instincts and they are telling me you are simply "words on a screen" right now. That IS MY ISH and I take full responsibility for it.
    Your words are very nice and inviting, yet, so were the white man's when he first came to us.

    I am and shall remain focused on the Afreekans LIBERATION FROM WHITE SUPREME LUNACY in OUR lives and ANYTHING that creates a barrier to such must be removed. That is my aim...my mission....my purpose for BE~ing here...now.

    I nor you created the 'mess' We as a people are in...yet...WE are left to deal with it....the best way we can.

    You've been here for 5 days and my 'jury' is still out and shall remain so until my Spirit/Instincts tell me otherwise. That's all I have for now.


    I do sincerely Thank You again for Sharing with ....

    M.E.
    :hearts2:
     
  6. jamesfrmphilly

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    i'm in a good mood, care to join me?

    well, they might lighten the mood if folk was open to that. try lightening up. you might like it.
    if you want a private conversation with anybody you have to PM them.
    threads are open to all as i understand it. you do not own them.

    also personal duels between individuals can sometimes turn nasty and disrupt the peace of the family.
    i might try to step in and deflect some of that. there has got to be a better way.

    i'm beginning to see how you caused so much trouble:bball:
     
  7. cherryblossom

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    Well, now, I know you said that your "jury" is still out on me; but, no, that wasn't the "REAL introduction" but only your FIRST introduction to me. (although, yes, "1st impressions are lasting ones.)

    Well, now, IMO, I took no "heat." I have no qualms with speaking my mind to anyone. I have much confidence that I can handle myself and stand my ground with anyone.

    However, I said earlier, I didn't "pick out your thread." I only arrived there by Destee's direction; but I discovered when I read it that it wasn't a topic FOR Christians but rather ABOUT Christianity. (However, I don't think she knew that when she gave me the link.) But, when I responded to YOUR post, it was sincere. I really do feel that way and I was agreeing with your comments concerning any "solidarity" amongst Blacks.


    I've been here all of FIVE days, and I'm "known by the company I keep?!"
    (I didn't even know I was "keeping company!")

    Now, yes, I saw some familiar names to me here from other sites I've frequented; but they don't know who I am (unless they figured it out from my posts.) I don't use the same screen name all over the Net. That way, people can't track/stalk you, IMO.

    But, I ASSURE you whatever "behind the scenes" dramas and soap-operas which have taken place before I got here or since, I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO IT.

    (Although, I DID find it "interesting" that, so far, only MEN have sent me requests for "friendship" but not one single woman as yet.)

    **Maybe I broke an underground board rule and don't know it?


    Well, I'm disappointed that you feel that way; but I do respect you for owning it.

    Well, you know my faith position quite well by now. LOL! And I know yours.

    But, "turn-about is fair play." And I won't "hide my light under a bushel" either. I will "let my little light shine." So, just as you are passionate about your views, so am I.

    It IS what it IS.


    Thank you for your honest reply. Hopefully, in time, we'll find a suitable "middle-ground" for us both.

    Well, it's always better to "put it on the table," IMO, rather than to let it fester.

    Besides, "assumptions" lead to so misunderstandings and, in turn, even prejudices.

    So, maybe we BOTH should just let all this "marinate" for a little while....

    Love, Peace and Hair Grease,

    Cherry Blossom.
     
  8. MRS. LADY

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    Hotep Brothers and Sisters

    Most respectfully

    Sister CherryBlossom.. Br. James loves us... he would be the first one ready to beef over us... he just him ... and we love him for that

    Part of our oppression lies in the enemies ability to divide us...

    Even if we don't accept each others religions or beleifs I am certain that we can mutually respect and create some kind of love here

    I'm not a christian but i won't diss em
    I'm not a jew I don't practice jude-ism
    I'm not a buddist but buddist are masters
    I dont eat beef, pork or drink diet shasta

    I love you sisters....

    I've had my moments of attacking christianity but I can't front that there are good christians that try to live the best possible life they can....

    I don't agree with a euro centric version of christianity and am aware that that book has been re-written I think 17 times....

    Theres a poem i like by talib kweli that i'll post in entertainment... hope u'll watch and enjoy it...

    one love
     
  9. truetothecause

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    I was referring to stuff on a more personal note.

    I did sense this.

    Sounds like a PLAN to me!

    I'm curious about your astrological sign. Care to Share:?:


    M.E.
    :hearts2:
     
  10. cherryblossom

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    I do not assume nor have I intimated that I "own" a thread. Moreover, this is no "personal duel."

    I started this thread to DEFUSE whatever hot spots between me and True. So, I thought this letter was "THE BETTER WAY" to resolve it and to place it in the Women's Forum.

    **And, I thought only "premium" members could send a PM. So, I wrote her a letter, instead.

    But, I didn't need your assistance to "deflect" anything.

    Are YOU a MODERATOR here?

    If not, then, again, your comments were not needed. And if any MODERATOR had deemed my letter inappropriate, I trust that one of them would have told me so.

    This thread had NUMEROUS "views" before your comments here. So, obviously, OTHERS had decided to, respectfully, stand back/hang back and allow me and True to hash this out in a mature way.

    And if True didn't see my letter as an assault, then, surely, YOU didn't need to play "referee."

    But, noooo, YOU GOT JOKES!

    AND SORRY ONES AT THAT.

    Now, I came into this thread with a sincere heart and not for any MESS.

    So, as to whatever YOU think of ME, I assure you, I won't lose a wink of sleep.

    Furthermore, the only TROUBLE-MAKER in here is YOU.
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