Would the Honorable Ladies and Gentlemen of the Choir like to stop Preaching to/at each other and Come Together on a new Page One so that We may Begin Work Collaborating on a Fresh Composition? (no; no religious overtones; just playing off of "preaching to the choir".) There are big messes. There are as many "reasons" for those messes as there be caca-sians (no "u" in anything they do). There are as many reflections of those messes as there are Afrakans in america. We can keep articulating them til the cows come home and they will still be there. We know all this. We also know that not all of us can seem to get beyond looking to the perpetrators of the mess to clean it up. We also know that not all of us can, or are willing, to do the hard work of moving on to something else. There are lots and lots of good thoughts toward moving forward popping up in a lot of different places here on the forum. A lot of those thoughts keep recurring every time some of us respond to the same-but-different re-rendering of the issues. Maybe we gather some of those responses/thoughts in one place and brainstorm to "polish" them into something? While doing this in a thread could work, maybe a forum might allow for a better venue of brainstorming? Maybe we could call it "Choir Rehearsal" or something. I'd see this as being beneficial in that we could have a thread for brainstorming on each of the bits that seem to keep popping back up: lack of appropriate educational facilities; lack of economic, social, and political infrastructure; clarifications of the issues facing us, etc. As "consensus" and/or "understanding" of the various aspects come together, through "intermediate results" threads, they could go into one of the top level, possibly "sticky", threads that house "the answers"? And then, maybe, we could compile them into "something", (a platform?, a manifesto?) and spread it across the internet and into our communities? Why couldn't we be the center of something? It would be a wonderful vehicle for turning our "venting" into something constructive, wouldn't it? Couldn't it? (Just almost I'd be inclined to consider, somehow, making this "private" or something ... or some parts of it. But only "almost".) Your thoughts, comments and poll choices would be Most Welcome! Thanks!