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Please explain ...
I have a feeling that we are on the same track here but coming from two different angles ...
I am of the same opinion that the characters of the scriptures are simply Kemetic Kings and Queens. If I'm mistaken then please elaborate. On the other hand I believe that the Pharaohs were considered gods through the appointment of position by High Priest as Moses i.e. God (Ex. 7:1). The history of Yisra`el is simply a history of Lower Kemetic peoples. Once again, I may have missed the whole point of this thread and if that is what I have do then please excuse me, but to address your most recent post:
I agree totally ... my cause for examining the scriptures is that I may help those who are enslaved by the scriptures to re-awaken to our true knowledge. The words of man without debate, are foul and corruptible, yet how does this translate over to those who are enslaved to such idealism.
Another point to this quote that I would like to address is where you said, " ... we cannot make an absolute determination about GOD through words of men"
Once again, I agree with this yet I cannot understand why you would say:
Please note that I'm not trying to debate or be disruptive ... I'm simply asking, if we cannot make absolute determinations then what qualifies any determination that is made? How can we be selective on what is chosen as absolute verses error? If this be the case then scriptures should be used for the sole purpose of waking people up and not as literal historic tales.
Very interesting ... please explain
O.K ... what you are telling me is that God is nothing more then words or expression of the Pharaohs. The Pharaohs are simply the images of their words and thus God is the creation of Pharaohs; literally.
This would be most interesting if this has been understood correctly ... if not once again ... please explain.
If god is the creation of the Pharaoh's words as I believe you implied ("GOD is created in the Old Testament through the Words of multiple Egyptian Kings"), then how can one be ordain by that which it created in the first place?
I'm trying to get a clear understanding ...
This is where I keep getting lost ... How can a man be possessed by the God YHWH if the God YHVH is simply a creation of man? In other words, YHVH cease to exist without words of acknowledgment. If the word 'YHVH' should be banned then 'YHVH' as a deity doesn't exist ...
As I was saying in my post ... Moshe was the God who ordained the Pharaohs which is what the High Priest of the scriptures did for the crowning of the new King. You said:
It was the High Priest of Yisra`el that was ordaining and anointing with oil - a newly acknowledge king. Would that make the so-called High Priest God if it is God who ordains?
Peace and Blessing ... I'm enjoying the knowledge ...
I have a feeling that we are on the same track here but coming from two different angles ...
I am of the same opinion that the characters of the scriptures are simply Kemetic Kings and Queens. If I'm mistaken then please elaborate. On the other hand I believe that the Pharaohs were considered gods through the appointment of position by High Priest as Moses i.e. God (Ex. 7:1). The history of Yisra`el is simply a history of Lower Kemetic peoples. Once again, I may have missed the whole point of this thread and if that is what I have do then please excuse me, but to address your most recent post:
Be advised that we are not examining the Specific Word of GOD. This means that nothing is concrete and we cannot make an absolute determination about GOD through words of men.
I agree totally ... my cause for examining the scriptures is that I may help those who are enslaved by the scriptures to re-awaken to our true knowledge. The words of man without debate, are foul and corruptible, yet how does this translate over to those who are enslaved to such idealism.
Another point to this quote that I would like to address is where you said, " ... we cannot make an absolute determination about GOD through words of men"
Once again, I agree with this yet I cannot understand why you would say:
For believers in the GOD of the Old Testaments.
Keep your faith in the GOD of the Old Testaments, something is on the rise. You may have noticed many newer understandings of the Old Testaments coming to mainstream media. These newer understandings began to reveal the historical aspects of the Old Testaments, they began to reveal possibly who Moses was in re-life or they possibly reveal the origins of the name of GOD in the Old Testaments.
Please note that I'm not trying to debate or be disruptive ... I'm simply asking, if we cannot make absolute determinations then what qualifies any determination that is made? How can we be selective on what is chosen as absolute verses error? If this be the case then scriptures should be used for the sole purpose of waking people up and not as literal historic tales.
YHVH is created in the Old Testament through using actions and words of multiple Pharaohs and mainly tells the history of the bloodline to the Red Crown.
Very interesting ... please explain
Our ancestors believed in GODLY possession and believed the Pharaoh was endowed with the Spirit of GOD. Thus the Old Testament surmises GOD as the Words of those Pharaohs while being the Living Image of GOD.
GOD is created in the Old Testament through the Words of multiple Egyptian Kings.
O.K ... what you are telling me is that God is nothing more then words or expression of the Pharaohs. The Pharaohs are simply the images of their words and thus God is the creation of Pharaohs; literally.
This would be most interesting if this has been understood correctly ... if not once again ... please explain.
Our ancestors believed a man would not have so much power and reign in the earth with so much authority unless he was ordained by GOD. Thus the Pharaoh became our GOD. This was the unique position of the original founders of Kemet. As other foreign African Tribes began infiltrating Kemet this concept started getting challenged more and more, even to the point of rebellion.
If god is the creation of the Pharaoh's words as I believe you implied ("GOD is created in the Old Testament through the Words of multiple Egyptian Kings"), then how can one be ordain by that which it created in the first place?
I'm trying to get a clear understanding ...
Ex:15:3: The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
Moses is referring to a Pharaoh who is possessed by the GOD YHVH.
This is where I keep getting lost ... How can a man be possessed by the God YHWH if the God YHVH is simply a creation of man? In other words, YHVH cease to exist without words of acknowledgment. If the word 'YHVH' should be banned then 'YHVH' as a deity doesn't exist ...
As I was saying in my post ... Moshe was the God who ordained the Pharaohs which is what the High Priest of the scriptures did for the crowning of the new King. You said:
Our ancestors believed a man would not have so much power and reign in the earth with so much authority unless he was ordained by GOD.
It was the High Priest of Yisra`el that was ordaining and anointing with oil - a newly acknowledge king. Would that make the so-called High Priest God if it is God who ordains?
Peace and Blessing ... I'm enjoying the knowledge ...