Black People : Time magazine: The Meaning of White

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  1. dustyelbow

    dustyelbow Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Brother DustyElbow ... thanks for sharing ... of all that i read ... the following was saddest ...

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    It is strange how we sometimes see things differently without knowing that in reality we are seeing the same thing. Example: Look at the above quote. They admit that prejudice and discrimination puts blacks at a disadvantage, but decline from saying that the prejudice and discrimination comes from them and THEIR SYSTEM that they have the power to change. Why? Because it is to the advantage of white people not to change it or want to.

    Furthermore, why would they attribute bias or inequality to a legal system that benefits them? Bottom line: The system is white. Governed, maintained and controlled by and for white people...and they know it. As Francis Cress Welsing was once told by white people: "We are not and will not be in the business of doing anything about white supremacy."

    So who becomes the stupid ones? Them, or our "can we all just get along people?"

    Furthermore, as long as they have those subtle ways of convincing themselves that "race is not a problem in America", we can forget about the concept of so called: GOOD WHITE PEOPLE !!!


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    After decades and decades of molding and shaping us into what we have become,
    why would they want to reconize their part in it now? ..smh
     
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    This is amazing! 88 people have read this read and three responded. What does this say? What does this mean? It means that if I was a psychologist and had to interprete the non-response of an issue that clearly affects anyone classified as black, I would have to make a serious analysis.

    Clearly language is a means of communication in terms of our reponse to reality in terms of what we think, what we feel and how that reality affects us as individuals and as a whole. Equally important than the words we use to convey those things are the words we don't use. In other words, "silence often says more than words do."

    So often in this forum and in chat there is serious emotional debate concerning white people in terms of how we see them. There is debate about how things have changed and the idea that some of us are "out of step" as it relates to white people....especially those of us in inter-racial relationships.

    So what happens? Finally a "white magazine" decides to do a poll and interveiw about white people and what their whiteness means to them. The results of the poll are in and the overview of their mentality has been layed out for all of us to read for ourselves.

    Our "non-response" to the results is clearly a sign that "we are insisting on having our own mindset about the issue dispite the reality of them and about them being thrown in our faces from them. Does this mean that white people have a problem? No it does not. It means that we have one!

    The very idea that we are refusing to accept reality as it is and has been and will continue to be is a clear indicator that we are mentally ill...and even worse is the idea that we don't see or consider ourselves to be mentally ill.

    Since the clinical definition for mental illness is: Thinking or doing something the same way while looking for different results, we fit that description when it comes to how we see and think about white people...even if it's subconscious.

    We want so badly to believe something that clearly is not real in terms of our reality and theirs. I read a thread about "race being a social construct". So what ! What does that actually mean? It means nothing as long as the masses of people do not see or deal with race according to the "scientific definition". As long as people deal with race according to "what they see" as opposed to what it is in reality, the idea of race being a social construct don't mean jack.

    Go anywhere in the world and shout out: "a Nhigger just robbed me" and see if they look around for an ignorant person or somebody black ! We done been jerked off and jerked on by so many people that now we done started jerking ourselves off...and the proof of it is in our failure to accept and deal with the reality that confronts us.

    This is indeed sad....very sad.
     
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    RIDICULOUS?

    Blacks more 'American' than whites?

    That's ridiculous! Some may say MY
    observations here are ridiculous but,

    when YOU consider that the main objective
    of the mob (for example,) was to buy 'legitimacy', after a

    murderous crime riddled quest for the 'top,'
    what has amerikkka done differently?

    After criminal manipulation of the Native Indian...
    as well as His slaughter, the slaughter and forced
    enslavement of OUR People, as well as it's murders...

    is there a statute of limitations on murder which
    the implications apply to everyone but white folk?
    Even in the article above they admit enjoying

    the 'fruits' of amerikkka's murderous quests....just
    like the mob?

    How RIDICULOUS!

    I tell YOU...next they'll be blaming amerikkkas
    'rise to the top' on Black Folk too.


    ROARIN........
     
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    no stuff,they live in a system that benefits them since it was made and is still maintaned by them,they are only 'concious' of being white because of the other 'minorities' in the world outnumber them...

    of course the 'social heirarchy' was created and is maintained by them for them so they have nothin to be scared of..

    replace 'social heirarchy' above with the other systems and you get the same concept..

    ahem...the result of 'divide and conquer',the system created is meant to keep peoples divided so that stuff like this article is created to show off that they still and always will consider the 'minorities' activities like lab rats in a maze...
     
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    The Reasons are "Clear"*


    Hotep

    For those of us who have known for some time what dynamics between "All" areas of "Hue-Man" interaction is..."We" know why today the so-called "White-Race" is now all of a sudden pretending to give out information that before now has been hidden, coverd up, secret and otherwise denied all togeather.
    With all of the "Exposeure" of the cover-ups in history and "Fabrications" in a "Religion" that was made up and concocted by so-called "White-Indo-Europians" for "All" of our African and Africans in Amerikkka. Today with all of the "Black-Scholors"...revealing the "Truth"...today and forever...only now the so-called "White" race must act as though they are coming clean about some of the autrosities they have commited on the "Earth" and its "Original" so-called Black Africans and Others.
    But "We" must remember that they are "Not Sincere" and never will be and are only telling 'Us' what we already know about them and their "History" and Actions. They are "Racist" to the "Core" and the others (whites)...who claim to not be also...racist are still receiving and injoy-ing "White-Priviliage" at the total and "Absolute" expence of Africa. The more we learn about the (Our Selves) truth...the more they will seem to admit too...short of letting us know beforhand through the Racist System of White Supremacy's Mis-Educational and Political School system of "Indoctrination and Retardation"...as they continue to hide "Securely" in their "Real" seat of "Power" in the "Sanctified White Racist Religions" that has "Every One" of us who "Worships" in it...In Mental Slavery, Hoodwinked...Bamboozeled...Run-Amuck and in Silly, Sick, Ignorant love with "White" Spooks, White Spirits, White Ancistors and most of all a False White Image of Divine. We ourselves must expose these things today and teach our beautiful Black African Children what the White Racist will never, ever teach until after we already know from our own Scientist, Scholors, Theologens, Historians and KEMETic High Prist in..."Right Knowledge" and "Spirituality".
    Dr. Chaik Anta Diop, Dr. Ivan Van Sertima, Dr Yosef Ben Jachanan, Dr Niam Akbar, Dr Francis Cress Wilsing, Dr Neeley Fuller, Dr Ray Hagins, Dr Cruthers, Dr Henrick Clarke, Dr Carter G. Woodson, Dr E.M. James, The Right Honorable Mosiah Marcus Garvey and meny, meny, meny others past and present will make sure "We" Know our Selves if we listen and learn from our Elders and Ancistors.

    Ase`


    Note: Let it be known for now and forever...Never trust any one who first of all calls themself "White"...and secondly any Indo-Europian who claims to have Africas best interest in their historicaly Pathological Racist Minds.

    http://www.thefetus.net/page.php?id=997
    http://www.zeenews.com/articles.asp?aid=280298&sid=ENV
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0308_060308_all_fours.html

    Note: At the same time all this is going on they (whites) tell you that the ancient so-called Egyptian Tut-Ank-AMUN is also white and they know for certain and for asurity this Man was and is a Black African and one of your so-called African Ancistors and not Indo-Europian. Why do they tell you this? The answer is to "Steal" your veary Soul..."History and Legacy"...African!!
     
  9. Steve69

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    I will try to answer. Take this quote.
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    Whites are more likely to say prejudice and discrimination put blacks at a disadvantage than to say those factors contribute to white advantage.

    Your views will depend on how you interpret this. And it seems to be interpreted in a different way on this post to again put the problem to someone else. I think the majorities that have read it have been able to understand its meaning. It did not say whites say discrimination puts blacks at a disadvantage. It said if they HAD a choice and had to pick one they would NOT say it gave them an advantage. It said more likely. So 1 out of a million could say one thing but if 2 out of a million said something else you would think the majority said it.
    This is understandable since we are only 12% of population and most whites are never in a situation were there is even a chance to compete or get an advantage. But they do here all the news from us on discrimination. Like asking us if we have a big advantage over Eskimos.
    As far as the N word. Of course they would look for a Black. Almost all of the time the word is used and people hear it; it is for blacks describing other blacks. How can you be surprised that then people would look for a black?
    Again I think groups of people will always stick together some and have to be some form of discrimination. People from a same school, race, city, work or whatever. If we do things differently we have to expect a different result. We want same prospering communities as whites but we want to do it different and make them responsible when it does not work. They are not gods. If we do it different then we have to expect to live with the results or correct our problems.
     
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