Destee's Thoughts Those Who Say Kill (White) People ... or Break Laws ... Look Like Agent Provocateurs

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  1. Destee

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    Peace and Blessings Family,

    I've heard such phrases tossed about, with no sense of responsibility, to the young and impressionable minds that may be reading.

    When i read or hear such foolishness, usually from Elder Black Men, the first question that comes to my mind, is how many have you killed? You see such people most every day, yet you have not killed all that have crossed your path? If you have killed any, how do you determine which ones live and which ones die? How have you stayed free and alive, to post on a discussion forum?

    If you are bold enough to encourage this, in the open, then you should be bold enough to answer some questions, in the open.

    How many of these people have you killed, while you encourage our youth to do the same?!

    Tell me please ... how many??!!

    How can you do this to our own babies, when you can't protect them from the consequences that are sure to come!? How can you do this?!!!

    Our babies are already killing each other, already locked up in prison for spitting on the side walk ... and you have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop it!

    You are not prepared to pay the costs for them, to get them out of this thing you are putting them in ... a place where you yourself are not willing to go ... but you plant these seeds as though you have a garden full of such!

    But you don't ... you only tell them to kill.

    To all the babies ... young people ... young Black Men and Women ... who may ever read or hear such a thing ... if someone is suggesting that you or others kill ... follow the logic ... and ask them ... how many have they killed.

    If you're going to follow someone ... do what another says ... make sure they've already walked that road, and can help you navigate through it, and come out on the other side without spot or blemish!

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    Excellent questions. And in addition to those questions I'd like to know how would you go about determining which people are white people and which people are not?

    If you're gonna kill somebody or tell someone else to kill somebody you'd better know, beyond a shadow of doubt, that the person you're talking about, that needs to be dead, is who you say they are. So how do you know?
     
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    My sister, I am going to ask you to name names and bring up posts if you are going to make such a post. And to any of those who might have done ANYTHING at all, please do not be stupid enough to post it on a message board.
     
  4. Destee

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    I don't have to name names. It's not like what i'm saying is unheard of. I'm not speaking only about this community even, as i've heard Brothers say this way too often and it troubles my soul every single time. If you've never done it, then you are not one of those.

    If you're suggesting that it's never been said, then we can have that discussion if you'd like ... just let me know.

    If a person is going to publicly suggest a thing, then it's more than reasonable to publicly ask, if they've already done it.

    If their public admission to such, is stupid ... then doesn't it seem logical ... that their public encouragement of such, would be stupid too?

    I just don't want our youth following stupid people.

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    NO I am not suggesting that it has never been said. My position on it is CLEAR and unwavering. However, you said that some of our elder black men are somehow trying to get young people to kill whites and that I say is both wrongheaded and in my opinion selling people in general short. Yes it would be STUPID to admit in public something for which you could go to prison. As for who is stupid or not..... You rebuke those here who are wrong and wronheaded with what they say. As your brother I am telling you, You are waay wrong with this accusation, and it is a serious one. I realize I am going to be the lone ranger on this one against your statement but so be it. If/when I am wrong and get called on it I apologize. As sister and brother we are going to have it out from time to time and this is one of those times. And not willing to bring up posts... Cmon now sis.......You are bigger and better than this.
     
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    No, your position is not clear to me.

    I'm not sure what part of what i said, you have an issue with.

    Are you saying that it is okay to encourage our youth to kill (white) people?

    If that is what you're saying, then i see where we disagree, and we can go from there.

    Tell me ... is that where the problem lies?

    What accusation have i made, that is not true? You admit yourself, that such has been said before.

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    OK heres what I have an issue with, this statement "When I read or hear such foolishness, usually from Elder Black Men," I say NAME names, show posts or produce tapes or quotes, since you are making such a serious allegation. I take issue with that. Bigtime. Even if a person has the opinion that the world would be a better place without whites (As I truly believe) or even if the person says they should be killed, how do you jump from that to some suggesting or encouraging YOUTH to kill white folks? You also said that you do not want our youth following "fools". Again what "fools" are you talking about? And does their taking that position on whites make them a fool?
     
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    When i've heard this said, it has most usually come from Elder Black Men ... Elder meaning ... over 18 years of age, and beyond ... as a person qualifies for "Eldership" by virtue of having someone younger than them around.

    Now you're certainly welcome to take issue with whatever you'd like, regarding what i said ... but it doesn't really matter who said it. It could be an Elder Black Man, an Elder Black Woman, a Young Black Man, or a Young Black Woman. That's really inconsequential to the whole of my point (though it has been a personal observation of mine, and i shared it).

    My point is ... no matter who tells you to kill someone ... they should be able to show how many they have killed.

    You already agree that it has been said, so for the sake of discussion ... i'll back down off of my "Elder Black Men" comment ... and make it be ... I've heard Black People say.

    Does that make that part better for you, so we can move on to the meat of the discussion?

    I don't think it's a jump to go from hearing those you look up to, and admire, say kill someone ... and a "child" does it. It may not happen instantaneously, for it takes time for seeds to grow within a person. But i think those of us who say such things, are irresponsible, if we don't consider that what we say may be taken literally / seriously by our youth. So when we say such things, we should also include how they will remain free after doing it, where to go when they complete the job, how many you have killed, how you got away, all of the particulars. Don't just tell them to kill, with no plan, no escape route, no hideout location, no nothing ... except kill.

    Being as responsible (and wise) as possible, when saying such things, is all i'm hoping for.

    I did not say "fools" ... i used the word you introduced into the discussion ... "stupid".

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    I agree with you about the plan escape route and what not. Ok I am gonna let it go at that.. hell, I have yet to come out on top in an "exchange" of ideas (argument) with a woman yet anyway. Why start now?:getout: Now take your mean behind somewhere else and chew on another brother.:10900:
     
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    :lol:

    Bless your sweet heart Brother IOnlySpeakTruth ... :love:

    Okay ... next ... :wink:

    I will surely take on any that tries to defend such carrying on. It angers me so! Boldly encouraging our babies to do stuff we can't help them get out of! But when asked how many have they killed, they punk out and wanna go private, get quiet, and not talk about that part in the open ... yet they brazenly encourage our babies in the open! Ouuuuuuuu it makes me so mad!

    It's almost like "agent provocateur" behavior ... the little i know of it.

    Openly encouraging our babies to do some killing, but they aint did none their own selves, won't speak on theirs. Setting us up.

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